Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[jhkim]

USA military business is at the borders, and that is it.  Just as the founding fathers wanted, NO INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN ADVENTURES.  You can say the world is better off for the USA getting into foreign adventures, but reality is you do not know (WW2 never happens if the USA is not in WW1, and WW1 is the main reason the PEOPLE (not political elite) wanted zero part of WW2) and I can assure you millions of Iraqis disagree 1000 percent with your endorsement of foreign adventures. 

   The issue I have with pussies pushing for use of force, is they have ZERO understanding of the consequences of when force gets pointed back at them.  The "World" let commies run wild after WW2, and millions upon millions of people died because of it, many more than died during WW2.  So your view of better is more or less speculative bullshit.

Sure, it's speculative - but so is your view.

The vast majority of the American public supported involvement in WWII at the time of our entry - it wasn't just the political elite. Even war veterans have tended to think that the war had been worth fighting. The WWII and Korean War veterans that I have met had plenty of gripes about the government, but they didn't regret that the war was fought. Even my German friends agree that America was right to fight against Germany. So among non-pussies who do understand the consequences, they don't generally share your view.

On a personal level, I know I wouldn't be alive if it weren't for the Korean War, and I have many Jewish friends who wouldn't be alive if it weren't for our involvement in WWII.

That said, I'm in agreement with you about most U.S. wars. If the U.S. had only used its military to defend its borders since the founding, the world would certainly be a very different place (especially North America) - and it might be better overall, given the number of unjust wars we have engaged in. But I do still think that Nazis were worth fighting.

[HappyDaze]

People rush to get vaccines when they see their friends and family getting sick.

How cute, your cognitive dissonance has the causation the wrong way around.

You really have been drinking your own piss, haven't you?

But please, SHOW the causation you speak of and PROVE that the correlation doesn't fit in the direction I've described.

[HappyDaze]

Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

Greetings!

GOOD! Let everyone see the Canadian government's TYRANNY on full display. Just more reason for the people to rise up, and break the government down. Crush the government elites.

Fucking Covid tyrants. All these fucking Communists and Global tyrants need to choke on Napalm.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

The correct answer is, 'WHAT military?' Because Trudeau has spent an inordinate amount of time damaging his.

Although I've seen speculation that the Canadian mandarins might try to import troops from the U.S. (wow, that'll end well). Or just call in the Blue Helmets (again, amazingly bad choice).

I thought rhat perhaps the "Way of the Leaf" from Wheel of Time might be a jab at Canadians...

[Zirunel]

I've seen speculation

Oh well there you go. Is that *solid* speculation? Must be true.

[jhkim]

USA military business is at the borders, and that is it.  Just as the founding fathers wanted, NO INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN ADVENTURES.  You can say the world is better off for the USA getting into foreign adventures, but reality is you do not know (WW2 never happens if the USA is not in WW1, and WW1 is the main reason the PEOPLE (not political elite) wanted zero part of WW2) and I can assure you millions of Iraqis disagree 1000 percent with your endorsement of foreign adventures.

These other countries can figure shit out on their own. America needs to take care of AMERICA. We have plenty of fucking problems right here.

SHARK, didn't you sign up with the Marines? When did you join? Have your views changed since then to be like oggsmash? Had you joined in any anti-war protests previously?

I've been to anti-war protests for the Iraq invasion and a much smaller one for Yemen. Still, my father is from what is now North Korea. As I said, I wouldn't be alive if it weren't for the Korean War. So I consider that war to have been justified, though still mismanaged.

[GeekyBugle]

Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

"Ottawa" in this case only means the Ottawa chief of police. But whatever straws the police chief may be clutching at,  the federal government position is that military intervention is not in the cards. They didn't call in the military during the indigenous blockades two years ago, and I think it is most unlikely they would do it today.

But this time it's not the superior race protesting my dude.

[Pat]

Depends. That person that didn't get vaxxed takes up an ICU bed that another patient could use.

And a specialist or maybe a whole ward that should be devoted to something else (like Gynaecology or Oncology). Nothing beats to see some specialist for your non-Covid problem at 9PM with them deadly tired.

What I wonder, however, is how people would react if diabetes or not keeping in shape were transmissible conditions. You watch what you eat, you go to the gym, you strive to keep a healthy lifestyle - only for some idiot who doesn't and plays online all day long to go around spreading diabetes. You wake up one morning needing insulin for the rest of your life and 100 lbs. overweight thanks to that idiot. But all is fine because "his body his choice", right?

Personally, no, I don't think that the other dude would survive the mob. But diabetes and unhealthy lifestyles aren't transmissible, as Covid is, so we will never know...

That's just a lovely attempt to rationalize totalitarianism. I know what side you'd be on in the 1930s.

You know, the whole "People who don't view the world like I do should be dismissed as Nazis" isn't cool when the left does it, and isn't cool when you do it either. Humans are complex, you don't have a bead on how people would have behaved under different circumstances based on their beliefs about this one topic, and this whole "I am going to use the tragedy of the holocaust for my own partisan ends" bullshit has got to fucking stop. All it does is diminish the actual Nazi fucks who actually committed mass genocide as equivalent to whatever the hot topic is of the day.

[Edit - and I see others called you out for this same shit. And predictably you deflect and play the victim.]

No, absolutely no one has called me out for that. I responded to someone who, quite hypocritically, tried to call a third person out about it.

After years of people being called Nazis based on nothing whatsoever, you don't get to use "oh noes I'm being called a Nazi" as a shield when someone points out the policies you support literally violate the Nuremberg code. That's a completely fair assessment based on real similarities, not random name calling. And quite predictably, you go on to accuse me of doing what you're doing, not what I'm doing, because you've become completely irrational in pursuit of this vendetta of yours.

"I know what side you'd be on in the 1930s." has nothing to do with the Nuremberg code. You're trying to conflate what others said with what you said, and then again play the victim.

It's literally right there in the quote chain. Advocating for medical procedures without uncoerced, informed consent is a violation of the Nuremberg code.

And where's your groveling apology for your erroneous claim that I was called out? Last time I made an minor error (misreading a year), I acknowledged it, and that wasn't enough. You jumped on it and demanded I abase myself in shame. Yet you've made a far more significant error here, and... silence. You haven't even acknowledged it. Hypocrisy, thy name is Mistwell.

[SHARK]

USA military business is at the borders, and that is it.  Just as the founding fathers wanted, NO INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN ADVENTURES.  You can say the world is better off for the USA getting into foreign adventures, but reality is you do not know (WW2 never happens if the USA is not in WW1, and WW1 is the main reason the PEOPLE (not political elite) wanted zero part of WW2) and I can assure you millions of Iraqis disagree 1000 percent with your endorsement of foreign adventures.

These other countries can figure shit out on their own. America needs to take care of AMERICA. We have plenty of fucking problems right here.

SHARK, didn't you sign up with the Marines? When did you join? Have your views changed since then to be like oggsmash? Had you joined in any anti-war protests previously?

I've been to anti-war protests for the Iraq invasion and a much smaller one for Yemen. Still, my father is from what is now North Korea. As I said, I wouldn't be alive if it weren't for the Korean War. So I consider that war to have been justified, though still mismanaged.

Greetings!

Yes, Jhkim, you damned right I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps. No, I haven't attended any "Anti-War" Protests. My views on American foreign policy have changed--somewhat--since I was on active duty, but not much. Now, I'm less hawkish, and more reserved. (Yeah, less Hawkish. You are probably surprised by that; but nonetheless, I am). I think it comes with parts of experience, age, and education. Perhaps just the wisdom of age to pause and consider things a bit more deeply than when in the rush and fury of youth.

I am definitely more jaded and suspicious of the feeral government, of their justifications, of their whole ideology about war. See, in the Marines, (and I suspect it's the same or my brother veterans from other branches)--it's all about defending America, standing against tyranny, and just saying fuck it and putting our boot wherever we like, 'cause we are the biggest fucking dog on the block.

It's not so much considering war-profiteering, investments for Arms companies, cookies for Senators and Congressmen, lobbying gigs, and all this other bullshit. As an older adult and citizen--I'm much more aware ofall those kinds of considerations, now, than when I was younger. I'm more refelctive on the wisdom passed down to us by our Forefathers. I'm also historically literate enough to recall that some of the same issues wedeal with today--have long been present, tovarying degrees. Our Forefathers were no strangers tocompanies and war profiteering, corruption, bigbusiness an banks getting sweet fucking payoffs in profits for war--they had all that back then, too. That's why they warned all of us about it, and advised minding our own business and being circumspect in getting involved with foreign entanglements.

I also get emotional, because it's more personal, now. I don't want our boys getting their fucking guts blown out so some fat rich fuck in Washington gets an extra big quarterly investment bonus!

FUCK THAT!!!!

The media mahine is well-equipped to fog your fucking mind with all kinds of half-truths to conceal the deeper motive, so you will rush into the fire, to fight and die.

I'm a lot more watchful for shit like that, now.

Pack all the rah-rah "Save Democracy!" bullshit for storytime to the kiddies. After spending 20 years fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, some of these other countries can put THEIR ASSES IN THE FIRE to "Save Democracy!" Unless the fucking Russians are building bases in Mexico, or they are invading Britain, or they are invading us here in America, we need to mind our own business.

I'm not interested in "Saving Democracy" around the world. Have you noticed that we have lots of problems here, in America? That we hav huge problems with crime, the roads, shitty schools, a blasted, weak, shitty economy; a 30-Trillion Federal Debt; cock-sucking Vaccine Tyrants; waves of violent nutjobs killing people for nothing; hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL ALIENS pouring into our country from the Southern border;
An evil, corrupt federal government; lots of corrupt local governments; wall street and investment problems; Rising costs and inflation; and, a weak, feminized military.

This country is in no position to be getting involved in a war fighting over a fucking Outhouse, let alone fighting the Russians in goddamned Ukraine.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Zirunel]

Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

"Ottawa" in this case only means the Ottawa chief of police. But whatever straws the police chief may be clutching at,  the federal government position is that military intervention is not in the cards. They didn't call in the military during the indigenous blockades two years ago, and I think it is most unlikely they would do it today.

But this time it's not the superior race protesting my dude.

Superior what? What?

Anyway, the Feds specifically cite the precedent: "We didn't do it then, we don't want to do it now."

And the deeper context might not be familiar to others elsewhere but the military option is toxic in Canada and  doubly so for a prime minister named  Trudeau. Because... War Measures Act. That worked so well last time, when Justin's dad invoked it. Right?

Things can change, we'll see how it plays out but my money is on no military option.

[GeekyBugle]

USA military business is at the borders, and that is it.  Just as the founding fathers wanted, NO INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN ADVENTURES.  You can say the world is better off for the USA getting into foreign adventures, but reality is you do not know (WW2 never happens if the USA is not in WW1, and WW1 is the main reason the PEOPLE (not political elite) wanted zero part of WW2) and I can assure you millions of Iraqis disagree 1000 percent with your endorsement of foreign adventures.

These other countries can figure shit out on their own. America needs to take care of AMERICA. We have plenty of fucking problems right here.

SHARK, didn't you sign up with the Marines? When did you join? Have your views changed since then to be like oggsmash? Had you joined in any anti-war protests previously?

I've been to anti-war protests for the Iraq invasion and a much smaller one for Yemen. Still, my father is from what is now North Korea. As I said, I wouldn't be alive if it weren't for the Korean War. So I consider that war to have been justified, though still mismanaged.

Greetings!

Yes, Jhkim, you damned right I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps. No, I haven't attended any "Anti-War" Protests. My views on American foreign policy have changed--somewhat--since I was on active duty, but not much. Now, I'm less hawkish, and more reserved. (Yeah, less Hawkish. You are probably surprised by that; but nonetheless, I am). I think it comes with parts of experience, age, and education. Perhaps just the wisdom of age to pause and consider things a bit more deeply than when in the rush and fury of youth.

I am definitely more jaded and suspicious of the feeral government, of their justifications, of their whole ideology about war. See, in the Marines, (and I suspect it's the same or my brother veterans from other branches)--it's all about defending America, standing against tyranny, and just saying fuck it and putting our boot wherever we like, 'cause we are the biggest fucking dog on the block.

It's not so much considering war-profiteering, investments for Arms companies, cookies for Senators and Congressmen, lobbying gigs, and all this other bullshit. As an older adult and citizen--I'm much more aware ofall those kinds of considerations, now, than when I was younger. I'm more refelctive on the wisdom passed down to us by our Forefathers. I'm also historically literate enough to recall that some of the same issues wedeal with today--have long been present, tovarying degrees. Our Forefathers were no strangers tocompanies and war profiteering, corruption, bigbusiness an banks getting sweet fucking payoffs in profits for war--they had all that back then, too. That's why they warned all of us about it, and advised minding our own business and being circumspect in getting involved with foreign entanglements.

I also get emotional, because it's more personal, now. I don't want our boys getting their fucking guts blown out so some fat rich fuck in Washington gets an extra big quarterly investment bonus!

FUCK THAT!!!!

The media mahine is well-equipped to fog your fucking mind with all kinds of half-truths to conceal the deeper motive, so you will rush into the fire, to fight and die.

I'm a lot more watchful for shit like that, now.

Pack all the rah-rah "Save Democracy!" bullshit for storytime to the kiddies. After spending 20 years fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, some of these other countries can put THEIR ASSES IN THE FIRE to "Save Democracy!" Unless the fucking Russians are building bases in Mexico, or they are invading Britain, or they are invading us here in America, we need to mind our own business.

I'm not interested in "Saving Democracy" around the world. Have you noticed that we have lots of problems here, in America? That we hav huge problems with crime, the roads, shitty schools, a blasted, weak, shitty economy; a 30-Trillion Federal Debt; cock-sucking Vaccine Tyrants; waves of violent nutjobs killing people for nothing; hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL ALIENS pouring into our country from the Southern border;
An evil, corrupt federal government; lots of corrupt local governments; wall street and investment problems; Rising costs and inflation; and, a weak, feminized military.

This country is in no position to be getting involved in a war fighting over a fucking Outhouse, let alone fighting the Russians in goddamned Ukraine.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Well said brother!

IMHO US citizens taxes would be best spent (and require a lot less of) by squashing the druglords/human traffickers here in México.

Something the average US citizen is being directly impacted by, either drugs flooding their streets or illegals draging the wages down.

Hell, Trump proved that by threatening our El Presidente our southern border CAN be closed. Something the vast majority of Mexicans agree with.

Do any of you trully believe the US law enforcement can't find the druglords? Find the top dog, kill him, then kill the second in command and keep killing whoever steps up to take the title.

Do it to ALL cartels, You'll soon see the ammount of drugs crossing your border diminish. First you find their bank accounts, confiscate the money, I bet the US could pay for getting rid of the cartels just by taking their money.

But neither your government nor mine want to end the cartels, because both get their wheels greased by them.

[SHARK]

USA military business is at the borders, and that is it.  Just as the founding fathers wanted, NO INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN ADVENTURES.  You can say the world is better off for the USA getting into foreign adventures, but reality is you do not know (WW2 never happens if the USA is not in WW1, and WW1 is the main reason the PEOPLE (not political elite) wanted zero part of WW2) and I can assure you millions of Iraqis disagree 1000 percent with your endorsement of foreign adventures.

These other countries can figure shit out on their own. America needs to take care of AMERICA. We have plenty of fucking problems right here.

SHARK, didn't you sign up with the Marines? When did you join? Have your views changed since then to be like oggsmash? Had you joined in any anti-war protests previously?

I've been to anti-war protests for the Iraq invasion and a much smaller one for Yemen. Still, my father is from what is now North Korea. As I said, I wouldn't be alive if it weren't for the Korean War. So I consider that war to have been justified, though still mismanaged.

Greetings!

Yes, Jhkim, you damned right I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps. No, I haven't attended any "Anti-War" Protests. My views on American foreign policy have changed--somewhat--since I was on active duty, but not much. Now, I'm less hawkish, and more reserved. (Yeah, less Hawkish. You are probably surprised by that; but nonetheless, I am). I think it comes with parts of experience, age, and education. Perhaps just the wisdom of age to pause and consider things a bit more deeply than when in the rush and fury of youth.

I am definitely more jaded and suspicious of the feeral government, of their justifications, of their whole ideology about war. See, in the Marines, (and I suspect it's the same or my brother veterans from other branches)--it's all about defending America, standing against tyranny, and just saying fuck it and putting our boot wherever we like, 'cause we are the biggest fucking dog on the block.

It's not so much considering war-profiteering, investments for Arms companies, cookies for Senators and Congressmen, lobbying gigs, and all this other bullshit. As an older adult and citizen--I'm much more aware ofall those kinds of considerations, now, than when I was younger. I'm more refelctive on the wisdom passed down to us by our Forefathers. I'm also historically literate enough to recall that some of the same issues wedeal with today--have long been present, tovarying degrees. Our Forefathers were no strangers tocompanies and war profiteering, corruption, bigbusiness an banks getting sweet fucking payoffs in profits for war--they had all that back then, too. That's why they warned all of us about it, and advised minding our own business and being circumspect in getting involved with foreign entanglements.

I also get emotional, because it's more personal, now. I don't want our boys getting their fucking guts blown out so some fat rich fuck in Washington gets an extra big quarterly investment bonus!

FUCK THAT!!!!

The media mahine is well-equipped to fog your fucking mind with all kinds of half-truths to conceal the deeper motive, so you will rush into the fire, to fight and die.

I'm a lot more watchful for shit like that, now.

Pack all the rah-rah "Save Democracy!" bullshit for storytime to the kiddies. After spending 20 years fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, some of these other countries can put THEIR ASSES IN THE FIRE to "Save Democracy!" Unless the fucking Russians are building bases in Mexico, or they are invading Britain, or they are invading us here in America, we need to mind our own business.

I'm not interested in "Saving Democracy" around the world. Have you noticed that we have lots of problems here, in America? That we hav huge problems with crime, the roads, shitty schools, a blasted, weak, shitty economy; a 30-Trillion Federal Debt; cock-sucking Vaccine Tyrants; waves of violent nutjobs killing people for nothing; hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL ALIENS pouring into our country from the Southern border;
An evil, corrupt federal government; lots of corrupt local governments; wall street and investment problems; Rising costs and inflation; and, a weak, feminized military.

This country is in no position to be getting involved in a war fighting over a fucking Outhouse, let alone fighting the Russians in goddamned Ukraine.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Well said brother!

IMHO US citizens taxes would be best spent (and require a lot less of) by squashing the druglords/human traffickers here in México.

Something the average US citizen is being directly impacted by, either drugs flooding their streets or illegals draging the wages down.

Hell, Trump proved that by threatening our El Presidente our southern border CAN be closed. Something the vast majority of Mexicans agree with.

Do any of you trully believe the US law enforcement can't find the druglords? Find the top dog, kill him, then kill the second in command and keep killing whoever steps up to take the title.

Do it to ALL cartels, You'll soon see the ammount of drugs crossing your border diminish. First you find their bank accounts, confiscate the money, I bet the US could pay for getting rid of the cartels just by taking their money.

But neither your government nor mine want to end the cartels, because both get their wheels greased by them.

Greetings!

Thank you, my brother! Excellent! Yeah, I loved it when President Trump offered to send US forces to Mexico, to help fight the cartels. Your president said thanks, but no thanks. *Shruggs* Sad, I think. Talk about genuine US strategic interests? Mexico is like our little sister, and our friend, and crucial to our security. All the drugs, chaos, and mayhem going on down there? THAT"S a humanitarian crisis, and a real one. Real people. Real familia. How many Americans have familia in Mexico? Yeah. MILLIONS. A happy, safe, and prosperous Mexico is damn right our fucking business.

But, what do you do? We can't force you, really. Like you said though, the fucking corruption keeps it from happening. America helping Mexico would be a genuine interest though, and righteous. Not sending troops there to hurt you, but to genuinely help you, and help provide safety and security, so that all of Mexico can be happy and prosperous. That is an expedition I would fully support. It breaks my heart when I read about graves of hundreds of Mexican women found, that have all been murdered by the cartels. Innocent people everywhere kidnapped, and murdered. Meanwhile, the Mexican government just stands there and strokes themselves.

ARRRGGHHHH!!!

But yes, our politicians need to understand what our true national security interests are, and not just exercises in money laundering and gaining profits. Ukraine is not a vital American interest, and certainly is not a situation that warrants putting hundreds of thousands--or millions--of American lives on the fucking line going into the meatgrinder with the Russian Army.

Sorry. They need to unfuck their own problems over there.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[GeekyBugle]

USA military business is at the borders, and that is it.  Just as the founding fathers wanted, NO INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN ADVENTURES.  You can say the world is better off for the USA getting into foreign adventures, but reality is you do not know (WW2 never happens if the USA is not in WW1, and WW1 is the main reason the PEOPLE (not political elite) wanted zero part of WW2) and I can assure you millions of Iraqis disagree 1000 percent with your endorsement of foreign adventures.

These other countries can figure shit out on their own. America needs to take care of AMERICA. We have plenty of fucking problems right here.

SHARK, didn't you sign up with the Marines? When did you join? Have your views changed since then to be like oggsmash? Had you joined in any anti-war protests previously?

I've been to anti-war protests for the Iraq invasion and a much smaller one for Yemen. Still, my father is from what is now North Korea. As I said, I wouldn't be alive if it weren't for the Korean War. So I consider that war to have been justified, though still mismanaged.

Greetings!

Yes, Jhkim, you damned right I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps. No, I haven't attended any "Anti-War" Protests. My views on American foreign policy have changed--somewhat--since I was on active duty, but not much. Now, I'm less hawkish, and more reserved. (Yeah, less Hawkish. You are probably surprised by that; but nonetheless, I am). I think it comes with parts of experience, age, and education. Perhaps just the wisdom of age to pause and consider things a bit more deeply than when in the rush and fury of youth.

I am definitely more jaded and suspicious of the feeral government, of their justifications, of their whole ideology about war. See, in the Marines, (and I suspect it's the same or my brother veterans from other branches)--it's all about defending America, standing against tyranny, and just saying fuck it and putting our boot wherever we like, 'cause we are the biggest fucking dog on the block.

It's not so much considering war-profiteering, investments for Arms companies, cookies for Senators and Congressmen, lobbying gigs, and all this other bullshit. As an older adult and citizen--I'm much more aware ofall those kinds of considerations, now, than when I was younger. I'm more refelctive on the wisdom passed down to us by our Forefathers. I'm also historically literate enough to recall that some of the same issues wedeal with today--have long been present, tovarying degrees. Our Forefathers were no strangers tocompanies and war profiteering, corruption, bigbusiness an banks getting sweet fucking payoffs in profits for war--they had all that back then, too. That's why they warned all of us about it, and advised minding our own business and being circumspect in getting involved with foreign entanglements.

I also get emotional, because it's more personal, now. I don't want our boys getting their fucking guts blown out so some fat rich fuck in Washington gets an extra big quarterly investment bonus!

FUCK THAT!!!!

The media mahine is well-equipped to fog your fucking mind with all kinds of half-truths to conceal the deeper motive, so you will rush into the fire, to fight and die.

I'm a lot more watchful for shit like that, now.

Pack all the rah-rah "Save Democracy!" bullshit for storytime to the kiddies. After spending 20 years fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, some of these other countries can put THEIR ASSES IN THE FIRE to "Save Democracy!" Unless the fucking Russians are building bases in Mexico, or they are invading Britain, or they are invading us here in America, we need to mind our own business.

I'm not interested in "Saving Democracy" around the world. Have you noticed that we have lots of problems here, in America? That we hav huge problems with crime, the roads, shitty schools, a blasted, weak, shitty economy; a 30-Trillion Federal Debt; cock-sucking Vaccine Tyrants; waves of violent nutjobs killing people for nothing; hundreds of thousands of ILLEGAL ALIENS pouring into our country from the Southern border;
An evil, corrupt federal government; lots of corrupt local governments; wall street and investment problems; Rising costs and inflation; and, a weak, feminized military.

This country is in no position to be getting involved in a war fighting over a fucking Outhouse, let alone fighting the Russians in goddamned Ukraine.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Well said brother!

IMHO US citizens taxes would be best spent (and require a lot less of) by squashing the druglords/human traffickers here in México.

Something the average US citizen is being directly impacted by, either drugs flooding their streets or illegals draging the wages down.

Hell, Trump proved that by threatening our El Presidente our southern border CAN be closed. Something the vast majority of Mexicans agree with.

Do any of you trully believe the US law enforcement can't find the druglords? Find the top dog, kill him, then kill the second in command and keep killing whoever steps up to take the title.

Do it to ALL cartels, You'll soon see the ammount of drugs crossing your border diminish. First you find their bank accounts, confiscate the money, I bet the US could pay for getting rid of the cartels just by taking their money.

But neither your government nor mine want to end the cartels, because both get their wheels greased by them.

Greetings!

Thank you, my brother! Excellent! Yeah, I loved it when President Trump offered to send US forces to Mexico, to help fight the cartels. Your president said thanks, but no thanks. *Shruggs* Sad, I think. Talk about genuine US strategic interests? Mexico is like our little sister, and our friend, and crucial to our security. All the drugs, chaos, and mayhem going on down there? THAT"S a humanitarian crisis, and a real one. Real people. Real familia. How many Americans have familia in Mexico? Yeah. MILLIONS. A happy, safe, and prosperous Mexico is damn right our fucking business.

But, what do you do? We can't force you, really. Like you said though, the fucking corruption keeps it from happening. America helping Mexico would be a genuine interest though, and righteous. Not sending troops there to hurt you, but to genuinely help you, and help provide safety and security, so that all of Mexico can be happy and prosperous. That is an expedition I would fully support. It breaks my heart when I read about graves of hundreds of Mexican women found, that have all been murdered by the cartels. Innocent people everywhere kidnapped, and murdered. Meanwhile, the Mexican government just stands there and strokes themselves.

ARRRGGHHHH!!!

But yes, our politicians need to understand what our true national security interests are, and not just exercises in money laundering and gaining profits. Ukraine is not a vital American interest, and certainly is not a situation that warrants putting hundreds of thousands--or millions--of American lives on the fucking line going into the meatgrinder with the Russian Army.

Sorry. They need to unfuck their own problems over there.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Wrong hermano, the Mexican government doesn't just stand there stroking itself, they get a cut of the drugs, human trafficking and the money it produces.

Didin't you read about the Governor of Puebla? Not the current one, he was in cahoots with the human trafficking pedos, a journalist, a fucking real journalist exposed an "industrialist" as part of the gangs and the governor intimidated her (and worst) to try and squash the news.

But that woman has more balls than anyone in this country, she didn't back down.

And it's not only in México, look at the UK, the grooming gangs there, what has the government done? Incarcerate the victims some times. And in the USA? Remember the Clinton foundation link to the pedo operation in Haiti? Remember Epstein? Why was the black book censored and deemed not of public interest?

Exactly.

If Trump runs again (I half hope he does) he needs to fire all the deep state as soon as he gets the office. If he doesn't then that's evidence he's controlled opposition.

[Timothe]

Churchill slept peacefully after he purposefully let German U-boats sink the Lusitania, which drew America into the war.

Except Churchill wasn't prime minister, and that was World War 1.

I was making a point that he slept peacefully twice in anticipation of getting Americans killed. Anyway, this attitude of yours is pathetic and I didn't come here for that.

[Ghostmaker]

Churchill slept peacefully after he purposefully let German U-boats sink the Lusitania, which drew America into the war.

Except Churchill wasn't prime minister, and that was World War 1.

I was making a point that he slept peacefully twice in anticipation of getting Americans killed. Anyway, this attitude of yours is pathetic and I didn't come here for that.

And you're a retard, but I don't come here for that either. Get fucked.

[Ghostmaker]

If Trump runs again (I half hope he does) he needs to fire all the deep state as soon as he gets the office. If he doesn't then that's evidence he's controlled opposition.

Hence the big push to remove Trump as a possible contender as soon as possible by flinging as much mud at him in the hope something sticks.

I suspect he's NOT controlled opposition. In fact, he's completely uncontrolled and that's why the Beltway is scared shitless of him.