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Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

Started by Spinachcat, August 02, 2021, 11:31:32 PM

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Timothe

Quote from: Ghostmaker on February 03, 2022, 08:29:30 AM

That being said, though, I am absolutely convinced that the desperate push to 'save Ukraine' is not based on any kind of moral grandstanding, but simply to prevent Russia from fucking up a money-laundering operation.

It's odd that they're calling for NATO to defend the Ukraine, when the Ukraine was part of the Warsaw Pact that NATO was created to defend us from.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Timothe on February 03, 2022, 09:22:50 AM
Churchill slept peacefully after he purposefully let German U-boats sink the Lusitania, which drew America into the war.
Except Churchill wasn't prime minister, and that was World War 1.


HappyDaze

Quote from: Ghostmaker on February 03, 2022, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Timothe on February 03, 2022, 09:22:50 AM
Churchill slept peacefully after he purposefully let German U-boats sink the Lusitania, which drew America into the war.
Except Churchill wasn't prime minister, and that was World War 1.
Oh, sure...believe the history.  ;)

Kiero

Israel - jabs, hospitalisations and deaths:



Nope, no correlation there, none at all...
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HappyDaze

Quote from: Kiero on February 03, 2022, 10:26:07 AM
Israel - jabs, hospitalisations and deaths:



Nope, no correlation there, none at all...
People rush to get vaccines when they see their friends and family getting sick.

Pat

Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Pat on February 03, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

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oggsmash

Quote from: jhkim on February 02, 2022, 11:54:13 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on February 02, 2022, 09:38:17 PM
  I am not going to edit what I said, but I do feel I came off a bit too strong.  Ukraine is NOT my business, is NOT the USA's business.  That is not a wasteland threatening them full of dudes on camels in caves.  If the USA steps even a bit wrong there, it will have consequences you, nor I can even imagine.  I am a bit weary of watching and listening to people who have never been in so much as a fist fight talk a bunch of shit about showing or using force, when the main reason they say stupid shit like that, is they think they will never have to suffer the consequences of such "show of force".  This is a different animal, and it is important to keep in mind, the USA couldnt win against dudes with 40 year old rifles hiding in caves.  Start fighting with Russia on its border is LITERALLY THE WORST MILITARY ERROR IN HISTORY.

To be fair, the Russians also couldn't win against dudes with 40 year old rifles hiding in caves. In fact, the Soviets had many times more killed in half the time in their war against the Afghans. (Soviet deaths were at least 15,000 from 1979 to 1989, while the U.S. lost 2,420 from 2001 to 2021.)

I don't know about worst - but a major military error was "Hey, if we just let the Germans have Poland, they'll stop there. After all, Poland is next to Germany, so it's not our business to intervene."

As for where we have business being and putting our values on the line -- where do you think we do have business? I supported WWII, the Korean War, the Kuwait War, and almost nothing else. I've been to multiple anti-war protests, but when democratic countries are invaded just to conquer them, I think it is the world's business - not just the U.S., but every other country in the world. That is what the world came together to agree on after WWII, that conquest for territory was wrong and would not be tolerated. And I think the world is much better for it.

So you signed up and went to Iraq during Kuwait?  Or you sat in a comfortable chair and proclaimed your support watching smart bombs on CNN?  USA military business is at the borders, and that is it.  Just as the founding fathers wanted, NO INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN ADVENTURES.  You can say the world is better off for the USA getting into foreign adventures, but reality is you do not know (WW2 never happens if the USA is not in WW1, and WW1 is the main reason the PEOPLE (not political elite) wanted zero part of WW2) and I can assure you millions of Iraqis disagree 1000 percent with your endorsement of foreign adventures. 

   The issue I have with pussies pushing for use of force, is they have ZERO understanding of the consequences of when force gets pointed back at them.  The "World" let commies run wild after WW2, and millions upon millions of people died because of it, many more than died during WW2.  So your view of better is more or less speculative bullshit.

SHARK

Quote from: Pat on February 03, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

Greetings!

GOOD! Let everyone see the Canadian government's TYRANNY on full display. Just more reason for the people to rise up, and break the government down. Crush the government elites.

Fucking Covid tyrants. All these fucking Communists and Global tyrants need to choke on Napalm.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Pat


SHARK

Greetings!

Yeah, fuck all the warmongering, war profiteers! People in this country--and especially our fucking political leaders--need to bone the fuck up on what are TRULY American National Interests. The real, vital stuff that demands that we put blood an gold on the line.

America doesn't need to be involved with Ukraine. Let Russia and Ukraine deal with each other. Beyond that, let Poland, and Turkey offer to help with negotiations. Let them fucking solve their own fucking problems.

Let THEM bleed for Ukraine. Let every able bodied man in the nearby countries sign the fuck up to face off with the Russian Army. They aren't hot on doing that? Oh well!

These other countries can figure shit out on their own. America needs to take care of AMERICA. We have plenty of fucking problems right here.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Mistwell

Quote from: Pat on February 03, 2022, 01:57:57 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on February 02, 2022, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: Pat on January 22, 2022, 04:45:17 PM
Quote from: Reckall on January 22, 2022, 04:34:34 PM
Quote from: TNMalt on January 22, 2022, 03:44:32 PM
Depends. That person that didn't get vaxxed takes up an ICU bed that another patient could use.

And a specialist or maybe a whole ward that should be devoted to something else (like Gynaecology or Oncology). Nothing beats to see some specialist for your non-Covid problem at 9PM with them deadly tired.

What I wonder, however, is how people would react if diabetes or not keeping in shape were transmissible conditions. You watch what you eat, you go to the gym, you strive to keep a healthy lifestyle - only for some idiot who doesn't and plays online all day long to go around spreading diabetes. You wake up one morning needing insulin for the rest of your life and 100 lbs. overweight thanks to that idiot. But all is fine because "his body his choice", right?

Personally, no, I don't think that the other dude would survive the mob. But diabetes and unhealthy lifestyles aren't transmissible, as Covid is, so we will never know...
That's just a lovely attempt to rationalize totalitarianism. I know what side you'd be on in the 1930s.

You know, the whole "People who don't view the world like I do should be dismissed as Nazis" isn't cool when the left does it, and isn't cool when you do it either. Humans are complex, you don't have a bead on how people would have behaved under different circumstances based on their beliefs about this one topic, and this whole "I am going to use the tragedy of the holocaust for my own partisan ends" bullshit has got to fucking stop. All it does is diminish the actual Nazi fucks who actually committed mass genocide as equivalent to whatever the hot topic is of the day.

[Edit - and I see others called you out for this same shit. And predictably you deflect and play the victim.]
No, absolutely no one has called me out for that. I responded to someone who, quite hypocritically, tried to call a third person out about it.

After years of people being called Nazis based on nothing whatsoever, you don't get to use "oh noes I'm being called a Nazi" as a shield when someone points out the policies you support literally violate the Nuremberg code. That's a completely fair assessment based on real similarities, not random name calling. And quite predictably, you go on to accuse me of doing what you're doing, not what I'm doing, because you've become completely irrational in pursuit of this vendetta of yours.

"I know what side you'd be on in the 1930s." has nothing to do with the Nuremberg code. You're trying to conflate what others said with what you said, and then again play the victim.

Kiero

Quote from: HappyDaze on February 03, 2022, 10:46:08 AM
People rush to get vaccines when they see their friends and family getting sick.

How cute, your cognitive dissonance has the causation the wrong way around.
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Ghostmaker

Quote from: SHARK on February 03, 2022, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: Pat on February 03, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

Greetings!

GOOD! Let everyone see the Canadian government's TYRANNY on full display. Just more reason for the people to rise up, and break the government down. Crush the government elites.

Fucking Covid tyrants. All these fucking Communists and Global tyrants need to choke on Napalm.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
The correct answer is, 'WHAT military?' Because Trudeau has spent an inordinate amount of time damaging his.

Although I've seen speculation that the Canadian mandarins might try to import troops from the U.S. (wow, that'll end well). Or just call in the Blue Helmets (again, amazingly bad choice).

Zirunel

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Quote from: Pat on February 03, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
Ottawa is considering calling in the military to get rid of the truckers.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/02/truck-convoy-blockade-canada-covid

I wonder if snipers or fuel-air bombs would work better?

"Ottawa" in this case only means the Ottawa chief of police. But whatever straws the police chief may be clutching at,  the federal government position is that military intervention is not in the cards. They didn't call in the military during the indigenous blockades two years ago, and I think it is most unlikely they would do it today.