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SJWs are Liars! The Hobby Always Welcomed Everyone!

Started by RPGPundit, June 20, 2019, 11:31:25 PM

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Cloyer Bulse

Quote from: rawma;1097352...Testing that correlates with various forms of success (school, jobs) has proven value. (IQ testing apparently does not correlate with wealth, so "If you're so smart, how come you're not rich?" is a baseless gibe.) The Flynn effect seems to indicate that it's not particularly genetic, though. And experiments where teachers were told that certain students were expected to excel based on testing, when the students were chosen randomly but do subsequently excel, would seem to support other reasons for differences. The history of IQ testing is of course filled with misuse to serve racist agendas; standardized testing for college admission seems to have started to exclude Jews from Ivy League schools.

For IQ specifically, I'll fall back on the Sidney Harris cartoon -- "You did very well on your I.Q. test. You're a man of 49 with the intelligence of a man of 53." So, when will you share your fantasy heartbreaker with a penalty to Intelligence scores for blacks? Or will you at least rant about the apparent race of the Wizard illustration in the 5e PHB?
Racism is an ideology that often uses pseudoscience, as do all ideologues to some extent (including SJWism), to rationalize what in actuality is a mystical position, not a scientific one.

As an example, there is a correlation between IQ and race, but correlation is not causation. Conflating correlation and causation, whether intentionally or due to ignorance, to prove racial superiority/inferiority is an example of using pseudoscience to rationalize one's position.

Another example of faulty reasoning: IQ testing shows differences in races; all people are the same; therefore IQ testing is wrong; QED.

As both examples show, political ideologues begin with an axiomatic position and seek to prove that position via confirmation bias. That isn't how we do science.

The science on IQ is very good, even if it doesn't support any preferred political narratives, which science rarely does. We know that brain expansion has been driven by 3 nearly identical genes that boost the number of potential nerve cells in brain tissue, and we know approximately when and where these mutations first appeared.

The correlation of race and IQ is likely due to the fact that people from the same area are generally of the same race. People who are in isolated areas, such as Australia or sub-Sahara Africa, take longer to accumulate new genetic material that is circulating through the human population. The latest gene that affects neural density appeared around 5k to 6k years ago in the Middle-East (corresponding to the emergence of literacy and agriculture), and it has been quickly spreading outward from there via the Mediterranean (Romans, Greeks) and then via the British Empire which seeded the entire globe, hence the rapidly expanding economies all over the world, except in those areas where human malevolence is holding people back (North Korea, Venezuela, etc.)

2000 years ago Roman women were making blonde wigs from their white barbarian slaves, a time when superstitious Germanic tribesmen lived in fear of the dark woods. A few hundred years ago the African slave trade was selling members of their own race to cultures all over the world -- today their descendants are Super Bowl-winning head coaches, CEOs of big companies in America, and generals in the most powerful military force to ever exist in human history. That shows how fast human populations change. We are currently undergoing rapid evolution which is why aggregate IQs by region range from 75 to 105.

AD&D is correct to show no difference between human races -- any such differences will be dependent on local conditions within the DM's own game world.

Opaopajr

The reasoning it takes longer to accumulate new genetic material in Sub-Saharan Africa is because it is the most genetically diverse region for Homo Sapiens, as it is the birthplace of our species. Drops in ponds vs. oceans and all. :)

That and population increase tends to foster more ideas; more heads are better than less. Given the flora and fauna of the "Living Pleistocene" of Africa survived by being exceedingly hostile to humans, it tended to keep populations lower and less dense in the struggle to survive. :D

So yes, I agree with you AD&D is correct to show no difference between human races! :D
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That said, this Fulvia Pellegrino seems to be deeply lonely. She has self-ostracized due to her internal dialogue demanding internal and external conformity to the point her neighbors cannot relate. She needs a friend, beyond her wife, and probably a hug too. :(

But I am not paid to do therapy at the table. :( So if she can compartmentalize her tribulations and let us all share the table, she can play. :) However I refuse to be ad hoc therapist and group therapy hug box on my free time. It would be unfair of her to expect of us such, and immoral for me and others to pretend professional help as such. We may do what we can as kindness to fellow humans, but there are boundaries for a reason -- "physician, first do no harm!"
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Gagarth

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Here you go this from the BBC the leading diversity quotas champion. Even if a program is set in the Highlands their goal is to have the cast look like this and the crew of course.
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Obviously the next step in the diversity drive is to get rid of the 2 white guys unless of course they are gay in which case they are safe.
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Abraxus

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097596There have been others like me, you say? I will find these malicious men, these champions of darkness, and build myself an army and a giant echo chamber-thread on this forum where you and your poseur kin will be roasted on spits all day long. By word and by Meme. Maybe these thunderous men are still lurking around the forum or twirling around without purpose, outcasts in darkest aether - waiting for this very moment! I am here now, braves! The Chosen One. The One and True Crowned King of Utter Bastards!

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You may golf clap with your babysmooth, manicured hands to this now. But you cannot stop progress:

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Wow

You really are certifiably insane. While possibly being so far in the closet you don't even recognize it.

All it took was getting pushback from a forum to show your true colors.

Let me guess you heard or were told that this place was the most homophobic, misogynistic etc.., rpg forum on the planet, fell for it and came here expecting a masturbatory fantasy. Instead reality and people having a difference of opinion hit you sack in the forehead and suddenly you can't cope.

Leadership most of the people you want to recruit would want nothing to do with you. First off your coming off as an immature insane man-child. Or trolling and many here would despise you just for that. Second you despise and dislike inclusivty and diversity so forgot about recruiting any of the more progressive members here. While also possibly being in denial about your own sexuality. For someone who hates gay people you sure as hell like posting way too many memes about it.

More importantly while I would probably never invite the woman who wanted to look like a trans star to my table. I sure as hell would never tell someone else they can't. More importantly it is none of my business and specially yours to go around telling anyone who they can invite to their table. Keep posting your "I'm gay and in denial" memes and acting like a complete lunatic. I'm sure that will work on getting your point across.

Abraxus

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097613Have you, once in any of my posts, noticed me sexually lusting for or idolizing transpeople? And that's one shitty imitator judging by the pictures. I think you could pull it off better if you tried. I bet you have worn a silk stocking or two in your lifetime.

Your last two memes to me anyway involved one guy fapping. Another one a naked guy who likes he is praying to a bunch of dildos and your wowndering why we question your sexuality.

Anyway keep showing everyone here that you don't like getting any pushback when it comes to what you post.

Cue the leadership meme and gay in the closet meme in 3, 2, 1,

Alderaan Crumbs

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097597Only a moron would compare horrible injuries or genetical disorders/deformities with someone who deliberately tried to mimic a trans pornstar:

"The 56-year-old Italian woman has spent 11 years and $87,000 on plastic surgery including more than 150 lip and cheekbone fillers, four breast implants, two rounds of liposuction and at least one butt lift, according to a Barcroft.

"I am not happy with my 'perfect' body because it is not perfect. Perfection is something else," Pellegrino told Barcroft.

"I want to look like Allanah Starr, an American transgender porn star," Pellegrino continued. "Plastic surgery is not a drug but its something that people like me need."


Now, google Allanah Starr, then read this article:

https://nypost.com/2016/01/07/the-transgender-woman-spending-a-small-fortune-to-look-perfect/

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I have to agree that it's disingenuous to compare an accident-scarred or birth-deformed family member to a person who voluntarily mutilates themselves. Not the same. By the Woke Metric, I would be racist for seeing a dangerous-looking MS-13 member and steering clear, not a person who clearly sees trouble and takes steps to avoid it.

I also agree that 80s's Vince Neil was prettier than any man should've been. ;)
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GIMME SOME SUGAR

Quote from: sureshot;1097633Wow

You really are certifiably insane. While possibly being so far in the closet you don't even recognize it.

All it took was getting pushback from a forum to show your true colors.

Let me guess you heard or were told that this place was the most homophobic, misogynistic etc.., rpg forum on the planet, fell for it and came here expecting a masturbatory fantasy. Instead reality and people having a difference of opinion hit you sack in the forehead and suddenly you can't cope.

Leadership most of the people you want to recruit would want nothing to do with you. First off your coming off as an immature insane man-child. Or trolling and many here would despise you just for that. Second you despise and dislike inclusivty and diversity so forgot about recruiting any of the more progressive members here. While also possibly being in denial about your own sexuality. For someone who hates gay people you sure as hell like posting way too many memes about it.

More importantly while I would probably never invite the woman who wanted to look like a trans star to my table. I sure as hell would never tell someone else they can't. More importantly it is none of my business and specially yours to go around telling anyone who they can invite to their table. Keep posting your "I'm gay and in denial" memes and acting like a complete lunatic. I'm sure that will work on getting your point across.

No, I am not insane. I met my psychologist this morning in fact. She told me that what I feel and how I react is neither strange nor insane. I take all my medicine like a good boy too. All this is real. Oh, and the closet gay thing...if I was gay I would say so. But if I was gay I would be the masculine kind for sure. But I'm heterosexual. I'm just too old, too bald, too fat and tired to try to meet women. I settle for 5 minutes of pornhub. At least I can mute the women in the clip if they talk. Nagging and smalltalk trigger my panic attacks.

I heard of this place..an enchanted land of free speech...an oasis for rpg outcasts. A safespace from all the LGBTQI/Feminist/SJW garbage found in modern rpgs. I got that impression from Pundits videos, but I guess I was wrong. I'll let you and your tag team nag and manhandle me from now on.

Btw, who are the "we" who question my sexuality?

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GIMME SOME SUGAR

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1097636I also agree that 80s's Vince Neil was prettier than any man should've been. ;)

I have always been a devoted Maiden fan myself, but one of my close friends was a huge Mötley Crüe fan and I remember a poster from the Theatre of Pain era when I almost had to look twice to check if he was male or not. But this is getting near the territory of the discussion in True Romance:

https://youtu.be/TB73Ko12yiQ

Alderaan Crumbs

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097645I have always been a devoted Maiden fan myself, but one of my close friends was a huge Mötley Crüe fan and I remember a poster from the Theatre of Pain era when I almost had to look twice to check if he was male or not. But this is getting near the territory of the discussion in True Romance:

https://youtu.be/TB73Ko12yiQ

80's rock and metal are still so fucking awesome!
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GIMME SOME SUGAR

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;109764680's rock and metal are still so fucking awesome!

I agree. Same goes for the movies.

Abraxus

So getting pushback on a topic and posters disagreeing with you on a topic means this place does not allow free speech. Then you wonder why I and others question your sanity GOS. Since you consider yourself so manly how about manning up and admitting you acted both immature and overreacted.

All some here did was disagree with you. Your in no way, shape or form a victim of anything. If you can't handle criticism of your posts why are you here beyond basically trolling and seeking validation.

I think whomever told you about this forum either lied to you. Or you refuse to accept that people on this forum have different opinions.

tenbones

Quote from: jhkim;1097556But my impression is that this isn't sufficient for us to agree, though. Right? It's not just about that statement. Rather, for us to agree, I would have to say something like how SJWs as a whole are wrong - and the anti-SJWs are right. That's my impression.

I suspect that we have some common ground, but also some real differences in political opinion. We agree that RPG players aren't worse than Hitler, but maybe we disagree about someone else's less extreme claim. Still, our individual differences are masked in identity of a binary "us-vs-them". From my view, there's a wide range of opinions on the Internet -- most of which are wrong and dumb, because, well, it's the Internet. And it's not just extremists that are dumb. Moderates are just as dumb, they're just often less visible in their dumbness.

You know, this is very illustrative about why you think we "talk past one another". I keep pointing out the "pathological post-modern position" that you hold (and a lot of other people) whom I think are intelligent, but once caught in this trap, say things completely incongruent with the discussion, insofar as finding "common ground" is the goal.

You're literally saying "there is a wide spectrum" and that "binary extremes are not desireable" (my paraphrase). But then you qualify your position by making a binary set of options as the only set of options for you to place your "real" opinion down... and of course you don't. Rather you qualify your response by pointing out the extremes and saying "everyone is dumb" (including some moderate positions) and nothing more.

What you don't do is look at the binary construct itself and see that the positions of "SJW" and "Anti-SJW" are themselves constructs that are in constant flux. One more than the other. What you don't do is qualify the totality of those positions in terms of which is more salient. It's not enough to say "SJW" as a whole are wrong, and Anti-SJW's are right. It's the necessity to qualify WHY one has more qualities than the other then stake some *sane* position that corroborates reality under optimal circumstances.

This is common for people that are Post-Modernist in their worldview - they can hold disparate views in hand, but those that pathologically cling to this construct are seemingly incapable of distinguishing their actual values against one another.

"SJW" and "Anti-SJW" are not the extremes. SJW's are self-identified. Anyone that isn't one, is by definition "anti-SJW". Just ask them. The goal post moves as they move.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Opaopajr;1097627That said, this Fulvia Pellegrino seems to be deeply lonely. She has self-ostracized due to her internal dialogue demanding internal and external conformity to the point her neighbors cannot relate. She needs a friend, beyond her wife, and probably a hug too. :(

 I'm no angel, and I find her appearance as distracting as that guy who got all modified to look like a human tiger.
But I do think I would be more concerned with this person's mental issues than their appearance. It's trying enough to deal with the usual gamer quirks.
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jhkim

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097644I heard of this place..an enchanted land of free speech...an oasis for rpg outcasts. A safespace from all the LGBTQI/Feminist/SJW garbage found in modern rpgs. I got that impression from Pundits videos, but I guess I was wrong. I'll let you and your tag team nag and manhandle me from now on.
You are wrong, as should be obvious from the contradiction in what you just wrote. This is a free speech area, and respect to Pundit for mostly keeping to that. So it's not a safe space for anyone.

Abraxus

Quote from: jhkim;1097666You are wrong, as should be obvious from the contradiction in what you just wrote. This is a free speech area, and respect to Pundit for mostly keeping to that. So it's not a safe space for anyone.

The funny thing is I think his version of free speech amounts to not posting anthing and everything he dislikes. When that is the opposite of free speech imo.