Quote from: sureshot;1097718I don't hate you and I questioned your sanity as you had a very public and ugly mental breakdown for nothing at all. You quote free speech yet somehow it applies only to you and no one else. Post whatever the fuck you want..everyone else better not dare pushback or make a negative comment about your posts. While some lurkers might agree with you though I doubt. You at least have the distinction of both the progressives and non-progressives pretty much almost  not agreeing with anything you posted after the breakdown. Speaking again for Rawma and JHKIM and Deadmanwalking. I'm 99% certain they want nothing the hell to do with you. You pulled an epic rage shitfit and over nothing and you wonder why people here question if your nuts.

I have had my share though nowhere near the dumbfuckery that was yours. As well as some pity parades. Except I can actually admit I made a mistake while your going to try and push the "what did I do?" narrative except no one here believes your bullshit on that anymore



You fucked up and are in denial about it and trying to hide behind free speech. Which by the way Free Speech does in no way shape form make your posts or yourself immune to criticism positive or negative. That might work in the imaginary world populated with creatures that agree with you 1000%. In the real world were not giving that to you here. Maybe in other forums not here. As for being kicked out of the other forum unfairly I'm beginning to wonder if it was actually unfair. Your behavior in the last two days makes a 4 year old in pre-k look well behaved. While it is possibly they treated you unfairly, doing the internet equivalent of continually raging, frothing at the mouth, falling to the and slamming your hands and legs into the floor is not going to want to make anyone listen to you. Nor are you some victim either so drop the victim act because your nothing of the sort/

The only narrative I'm pushing is that I'm manlier than you. I also notice that you, like me, enjoy hyperboles. But believe me when I say that there was no frothing at the mouth, falling to the floor. In fact there was no rage. There was great joy. I laughed myself when I posted the Samuel L Jackson gif and others. There was some real anger later though when I realized I had some humourless scum on my hands.

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097644I take all my medicine like a good boy too.

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097644I'm just too old, too bald, too fat and tired to try to meet women.

You might want to consider how these two sentences are related. Big Pharma isn't your friend.

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097644I heard of this place..an enchanted land of free speech...an oasis for rpg outcasts.

It is an oasis of free speech for EVERYONE.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;109764680's rock and metal are still so fucking awesome!

I love 80s metal, but we've been a 2nd coming of metal for at least a decade. It's amazing how many awesome bands are kicking ass today. At least once every couple months I discover a kickass band.

Quote from: jhkim;1097666So it's not a safe space for anyone.

Hell yeah and amen!!

Quote from: Spinachcat;1097744You might want to consider how these two sentences are related. Big Pharma isn't your friend.

Thats a dirty dirty lie.  But dont worry there are drugs that can fix that.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1097744You might want to consider how these two sentences are related. Big Pharma isn't your friend.

Well, I know that medicines have a lot of side effects. But sometimes the positive outweigh the negative, at least when it comes to my beloved anxiety and depression pills. Me being fat now though is a side-effect of eating alot of junk food. My baldness is genetical.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1097744It is an oasis of free speech for EVERYONE.

Apparently not as people are are allowed to post yet think those same posts are immune to criticism.

As to the topic while their were and still maybe some who ban some players for their gender, sexual  orientation and religion they are imo an minority and not the norm. Certainly their never was or is some kind of straight white male conspiracy to only allow such people into our hobby. We were and are in some cases still social pariahs and outcasts. I can also put out an ad where gay, POC and women can join a campaign. I also cannot force any of the three to join.

Quote from: sureshot;1097754Apparently not as people are are allowed to post yet think those same posts are immune to criticism.

As to the topic while their were and still maybe some who ban some players for their gender, sexual  orientation and religion they are imo an minority and not the norm. Certainly their never was or is some kind of straight white male conspiracy to only allow such people into our hobby. We were and are in some cases still social pariahs and outcasts. I can also put out an ad where gay, POC and women can join a campaign. I also cannot force any of the three to join.

It seems a typical Internet argument over subverted expectations. GSS seems cool and is simply marking territory. As the digital landscape has infinite corners to piss in, I say rock on.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1097761It seems a typical Internet argument over subverted expectations. GSS seems cool and is simply marking territory. As the digital landscape has infinite corners to piss in, I say rock on.

True

Yet I also never really understood someone asking a question then having a mental breakdown at the answers received. Why even ask the question if one already has made up their mind about the answers. Everything else is just trolling imo.

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Yet I also never really understood someone asking a question then having a mental breakdown at the answers received. Why even ask the question if one already has made up their mind about the answers. Everything else is just trolling imo.

It could be disappointment at expecting a place diametrically opposed to SJW crazy but finding it more nuanced. It could be one ruffled feather sent somebody's "brain bird" into a tailspin. It could be GSS is a dick. It could be that forums tend to easily tumble into insanity. Who knows?

Well, it could also be that some keep nagging me, poking me with a stick for a Samuel L Jackson gif. Calling it a mental breakdown. Hyperboles can be fun, but don't overdo it. I swear on my manboobs that my pulse was totally normal. And posting memes is what others do all the time, even old farts.

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Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097778Well, it could also be that some keep nagging me, poking me with a stick for a Samuel L Jackson gif. Calling it a mental breakdown. Hyperboles can be fun, but don't overdo it. I swear on my manboobs that my pulse was totally normal. And posting memes is what others do all the time, even old farts.

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Fair. In case it matters, my comment about a "brain bird" wasn't about you (or anyone) being bird brained, it was a play on words about things getting under skin and getting blown up. I wouldn't sweat being picked on as the new guy, it happens. I've smashed heads with people here and later had great interactions. If there's one ongoing "WTF?!" I regularly have it's the almost spastic fear and loathing for storygames. Those are poopy-bad fun.

If I had the right crew, I'd love to play a campaign of Burning Empires, but not on RPG night. RPG night is for RPGs! For me, its just an issue of expectations - RPGs, LARPS, boardgames, card games, minis games, and storygames can all be fun, but they're not the same thing.

Quote from: GIMME SOME SUGAR;1097750Well, I know that medicines have a lot of side effects. But sometimes the positive outweigh the negative, at least when it comes to my beloved anxiety and depression pills. Me being fat now though is a side-effect of eating alot of junk food. My baldness is genetical.

Fat, lonely and chewing on brain pills? That's the classic SJW online stereotype. As you've declared yourself the most manly among us and most opposed to anything SJW, it sounds like its high time for you to go full Manowar on your issues. Burn that gut, fix your head, and get a woman who's into cue balls.

Oops, was that too unwoke for you?

PS: Kyle Aaron, our forum's Aussie bodybuilder, is worth PMing if you want to discuss health and fitness.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1097834Fat, lonely and chewing on brain pills? That's the classic SJW online stereotype. As you've declared yourself the most manly among us and most opposed to anything SJW, it sounds like its high time for you to go full Manowar on your issues. Burn that gut, fix your head, and get a woman who's into cue balls.

Oops, was that too unwoke for you?

PS: Kyle Aaron, our forum's Aussie bodybuilder, is worth PMing if you want to discuss health and fitness.

I am the most manly among you. If I want to start lifting I will consult the Arnold blueprint. I don't want to become a modern day bubblegut bodybuilder. They look abnormal. And if I started pumping iron I wouldn't want to start with powerlifting either, since they still look fat regardless how strong they are. Schwarzenegger looked like he was cut from granite with a perfect vacuum and V taper. That's what I would want to look like if I didn't love pizza so much. But being 47 it's too late. I should have started training as a teen.

And I never said I was lonely. I'm alone. Not lonely. My agoraphobia and other stuff will get better when I move to a smaller town in a couple of years.

Btw, is this your Aussie bodybuilder Kyle Aaron?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl7rc-YFvA_/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

I hope not, because this is what I would want to achieve. Some bodybuilders state that Arnold had no legs. I disagree. The bodybuilders of today have disproportionate, weird looking thighs. And of course, today alot of pro bodybuilders even use synthol, either to look like freaks or to fix "weaker" body areas. And with their chicken drumstick legs they can't run. Hell they can't even walk properly without looking like they shat their pants.

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Quote from: Spinachcat;1097834If I had the right crew, I'd love to play a campaign of Burning Empires, but not on RPG night. RPG night is for RPGs! For me, its just an issue of expectations - RPGs, LARPS, boardgames, card games, minis games, and storygames can all be fun, but they're not the same thing.

Oh, silly, beautiful Spinachcat and his "RPGs are not RPGs". GSS, this nonsensical argument gets almost as heated as shit about woke politics.

Quote from: jeff37923;1096246Well, now I'm disappointed.

I apologize. It wasn't a well formed response and I'd rather respond with more thought. Unfortunately I've been busy so I'll try to approach this later.

Quote from: jeff37923;1095084Virtue Signaling - the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.

Virtue signaling is the conspicuous expression of moral values.



It is. The conspicuous expression of moral values by people is usually done not to discuss a topic at hand, but to demonstrate the moral superiority of the poster in an attempt to ensure that they are higher up on the social ladder and thus their words have more importance than the rest who are involved in the discussion.

Ok. So what determines the difference from expressing one's views and 'virtue signaling'. To me it sounds like a judgement call. Who gets to determine that the expression of moral values is not to discuss the topic at hand and instead only demonstrate moral superiority? What if the person is actually genuine?

QuoteThe reader.

Sure. Whomever is reading can reach their own conclusions. So statements to this effect are subjective. That's fair enough, everyone has their own point of view, but it is only that. Every reader is going to interpret their own way.

QuoteWoke - The act of being very pretentious about how much you care about a social issue.

Again, the reader.

Ok makes sense. These statements are the subjective views of certain people.

QuoteWhy does not including such assume a lack of welcoming to the game?

The more people involved in our hobby the better for the game. Everyone can add their own personal experience and it will be a net positive. Each individual group has their right to handle the material they wish to face and that's fine. There should be less barriers for entry into our hobby simply because more people should be involved in our hobby. Certain people may not like some of the people joining the hobby, but they have no control over that and they shouldn't. They can choose to prevent those people from their personal games, but they can't and shouldn't prevent anyone from joining our hobby.

QuoteThere is no resistance as long as the characters fit in with the setting of the game or the plot of an adventure.

Who gets to decide that? The author of the adventure. If the author decides its appropriate then so be it. The author is the one writing the adventure. If a group doesn't like it, they are free to modify the adventure to suit their needs.

QuoteWhen the inclusion of minority characters is used to advertise a game or a person's appearance of moral superiority.

Again, who makes that call? Who decides that an author is only including minority character for the appearance of moral superiority?

QuoteYour question should be broader than that. ANY character included in the text should fit within the setting of the game or be essential to the plot of the adventure. Otherwise that character is extraneous. That character can be of any race, gender, species, or orientation - it is not just limited to non-binary or transgender.

Again, who decides if the character fits in the setting? The only authority in this matter is the author of the adventure.

QuoteThen why include them?

Why not?

QuoteIf you are including a character for no reason other than to include them, then aren't you just using them as a token? Isn't that even more insulting than just not including them at all?

Up to the author. Who else has any authority to tell an author what is appropriate for their adventure?