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Alexander Macris Banned Discussion Topic On Parts of Reddit

Started by KindaMeh, November 30, 2023, 03:25:11 PM

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KindaMeh

November 30, 2023, 03:25:11 PM Last Edit: November 30, 2023, 03:26:57 PM by KindaMeh
https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/17mz4v5/subreddit_rule_changes_blacklisted_creators/

On the one hand, it's primarily this general subreddit. But on the other, it's a pretty big subreddit for rpgs more generally, and part of a larger trend. Apparently it's not just him but any "blacklisted creator" who cannot be discussed from here on in. Zak S is another one, and currently I think the list is just those two. But in theory the mods are the ones who arbitrarily decide from here on in who gets blacklisted and must not be named within an rpg context.

IDK, maybe this isn't really super newsworthy, or should be in the political subforum. That said, I figure that this could be argued in a sense emblematic of prior corporate and anti-free-speech  trends within rpgs, TTRPGs, and the hobby more broadly.

Omega

#1
November 30, 2023, 03:31:57 PM
Reddit is a mess so this surprises me none at all.

I mean theres an anti-D&D hate group hanging out on there that just exists to fuck with people and Reddits like "thats not a problem!"

PulpHerb

#2
November 30, 2023, 04:04:24 PM
Yep...r/osr as well after someone freaked over someone else (not Alexander) marketing his KS for ACKS II.

That was enough for me and I left both. I was more active in r/rpg than r/osr, but if I can't discuss some of my favorite games (and I'm sure more will be added) what's the point of being there.  They want to be TBP, not my problem.

rytrasmi

#3
November 30, 2023, 04:22:57 PM
Yeah I dropped both RPG and OSR subs after that.

After you strip away all the fluff, the mods' core argument is "We don't want to moderate the mess that discussion of these creators causes here."

Ok, so you can't be arsed to mod when you're a mod, so resign. Nah! Let's just ban stuff.
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PulpHerb

#4
November 30, 2023, 04:42:32 PM
Somehow I think if I got a group of people to start shit every time D. Vincent Baker (for example) came up in r/rpg they'd decide to moderate it by banning me, not discussion of Baker.

It's an excuse, not the real motivation.  Which is another reason it is turning into TBP.

honeydipperdavid

#5
November 30, 2023, 04:53:10 PM Last Edit: November 30, 2023, 05:11:21 PM by honeydipperdavid
So they are banning the founder of the Escapist when it was was a good site, who put out a new game system because he's what left of FDR but not left of Stalin or what?

Monero

#6
November 30, 2023, 05:53:09 PM
Yeah it's pretty cringe. I got banned from OSR because I said ACKS. Can't believe there left that ended up ushering in the real 1984 censorship and Right Think nonsense. I'm embarrassed to call myself Left leaning anymore because of shit like this.

honeydipperdavid

#7
November 30, 2023, 06:08:33 PM
What is the leftards issue with ACKS?

Hzilong

#9
November 30, 2023, 09:27:10 PM
Quote from: Monero on November 30, 2023, 06:11:25 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on November 30, 2023, 06:08:33 PM
What is the leftards issue with ACKS?

It always goes back to gamergate.
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pawsplay

#10
December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

KindaMeh

#11
December 01, 2023, 12:31:38 AM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

I don't agree with him politically on a fair amount of stuff. (The same can be said for most folks on this site, and honestly probably most people in general.) And I'm not at all a fan of Trump at the Rubicon. That said, I will give him this: When Milo had alt-right ties exposed, he resigned as CEO without compensation. That, and he makes legitimately good games that aren't particularly preachy from a political perspective.

pawsplay

#12
December 01, 2023, 12:51:40 AM
Milo was always terrible. He got thrown under the bus when he left the receipts on the couch. There was never any reason to work for him. That said, kudos for Macris not actively championing such a terrible person when the messaging supported some of the nastiest parts of the alt-right.

GeekyBugle

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December 01, 2023, 02:12:47 AM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 01, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I mean, I'm not a fan of broad topic bans. But to all the people saying, what's wrong with Macris, I'm like, are you for real? He's a Milo guy.

I wonder what type of squeletons one could find if one knew your real name and could go over your past associations?

But I'm sure that in YOUR case claiming ignorance is good enough, just not for us peasants.
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pawsplay

#14
December 01, 2023, 02:46:39 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on December 01, 2023, 02:12:47 AM
I wonder what type of squeletons one could find if one knew your real name and could go over your past associations?

Well I've been a member on this board since 2007 and I've posted before in the self-promotion subforum, so the information is available if you're motivated.
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