Touched By A Devil. Yes, That Way.

flyerfan1991 · August 28, 2013, 08:19:47 AM

Quote from: Bill;686395Well, some of us like paladins. Better than a murder hobo.

I have seen more insufferable characters, and emo characters that were not paladins.

Within the right structure, I like Pallys. And yes, I thought of a Tiefling Pally as someone who could have an interesting struggle with the Darkness. But if they're that popular, I have to wonder about unintended consequences.

Bill · August 28, 2013, 08:23:32 AM

Quote from: flyerfan1991;686399Within the right structure, I like Pallys. And yes, I thought of a Tiefling Pally as someone who could have an interesting struggle with the Darkness. But if they're that popular, I have to wonder about unintended consequences.

Paladins are not all that popular; Sometimes I think I am the only one out there that plays them

LibraryLass · August 28, 2013, 08:23:36 AM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;686277Had to many fiddly bits for me. Then again, I was expecting it to be more like Star Wars Saga.

I'd have liked that, I think. Saga was pretty solid. I think that probably would have done better business than the 4e we got, too.

The weird thing is that to my knowledge there's never been a fan-made attempt at doing D&D Saga Edition. I would play that.

Bill · August 28, 2013, 08:25:30 AM

Quote from: LibraryLass;686403I'd have liked that, I think. Saga was pretty solid. I think that probably would have done better business than the 4e we got, too.

I gmed and played in three saga starwars campaigns and the system seemed good to me.

Better than 4E I think.

In some ways saga is a proto 4e.

LibraryLass · August 28, 2013, 08:29:13 AM

Quote from: Bill;686404I gmed and played in three saga starwars campaigns and the system seemed good to me.

Better than 4E I think.

In some ways saga is a proto 4e.

It definitely is. But it owes enough to 3.x that I think it wouldn't have alienated people so.

Imp · August 28, 2013, 11:16:05 AM

Tiefling paladins strike me as the kind of character for people who think the problem with Drizzt is that he wasn't Drizzt enough.

Bill · August 28, 2013, 11:19:32 AM

Quote from: Imp;686460Tiefling paladins strike me as the kind of character for people who think the problem with Drizzt is that he wasn't Drizzt enough.

I would have no problem playing a tiefling paladin, and I wish Drizzt' would die in a fire.

Archaeopteryx · August 28, 2013, 01:55:55 PM

Quote from: flyerfan1991;686393Oh great. As if regular Paladins weren't insufferable enough, now we've got Emo Paladins.

(And I say that as someone who used to play Paladins before graduating to Clerics.)

Paladins in 4e aren't alignment locked. One could just as easily have a paladin of Asmodeus or Gruumsh as Bahamut or Pelor. That game just uses the class as a generic divine warrior since the cleric had become mostly a heal-dispensing laser cannon (though the front-line weapon and armor cleric became more of a thing with later stuff).

Rincewind1 · August 28, 2013, 01:57:59 PM

Quote from: Archaeopteryx;686531Paladins in 4e aren't alignment locked. One could just as easily have a paladin of Asmodeus or Gruumsh as Bahamut or Pelor. That game just uses the class as a generic divine warrior since the cleric had become mostly a heal-dispensing laser cannon (though the front-line weapon and armor cleric became more of a thing with later stuff).

One of the better ideas, admittedly (though if I remember correctly, weren't there Antipaladins/Paladins of Chaos/Paladins of Order in some older edition?)

Archaeopteryx · August 28, 2013, 04:37:47 PM

Quote from: Rincewind1;686533One of the better ideas, admittedly (though if I remember correctly, weren't there Antipaladins/Paladins of Chaos/Paladins of Order in some older edition?)

Paladins of Order (the standard paladin), Freedom, Slaughter, and Tyranny were a thing in the 3.x Unearthed Arcana. Blackguards of course date all the back to the AD&D from Dragon. Dunno about any others.

flyerfan1991 · August 28, 2013, 05:03:08 PM

Quote from: Archaeopteryx;686531Paladins in 4e aren't alignment locked. One could just as easily have a paladin of Asmodeus or Gruumsh as Bahamut or Pelor. That game just uses the class as a generic divine warrior since the cleric had become mostly a heal-dispensing laser cannon (though the front-line weapon and armor cleric became more of a thing with later stuff).

So far away from Sir Galahad, it is.

James Gillen · August 29, 2013, 03:47:29 AM

Quote from: flyerfan1991;686379Yeah, but the backstory of Tieflings is that a lot of them say "screw it" to the gods and devils and instead make their own way in the world.

Atheist Paladin!

jeff37923 · August 29, 2013, 05:35:00 AM

Quote from: James Gillen;686804Atheist Paladin!

As a collateral duty while in training, I was the Navy's only Agnostic Religious Petty Officer.

robiswrong · August 29, 2013, 05:56:27 AM

Quote from: Imp;686460Tiefling paladins strike me as the kind of character for people who think the problem with Drizzt is that he wasn't Drizzt enough.

I snorted at my desk.

Bill · August 29, 2013, 07:51:40 AM

I think the 'problem' with Drizzit has nothing to do with the actual character, and more with a few players that get all excited to be an ambidexterous dual wielder murder hobo. With a build. And a Pet Panther.