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Touched By A Devil. Yes, That Way.

Started by James Gillen, August 21, 2013, 03:02:34 AM

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#90
August 29, 2013, 08:32:57 AM
Quote from: Bill;686825I think the 'problem' with Drizzit has nothing to do with the actual character, and more with a few players that get all excited to be an ambidexterous dual wielder murder hobo. With a build. And a Pet Panther.

Drizzit from the Icewind Dale trilogy was pretty awesome. I'm not sure when he became the angsty dumbass we know now, but I have always operated on the assumption that the original died and another Drow took the name after using magic to look like him.

Kinda like the ultimate stalker crush.

crkrueger

#91
August 29, 2013, 10:33:40 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;686533One of the better ideas, admittedly (though if I remember correctly, weren't there Antipaladins/Paladins of Chaos/Paladins of Order in some older edition?)

Antipaladin was a really early Dragon mag article.
Then there was a later Dragon article that had a Paladin class for every alignment.
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#92
August 29, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Bill;686825I think the 'problem' with Drizzit has nothing to do with the actual character, and more with a few players that get all excited to be an ambidexterous dual wielder murder hobo. With a build. And a Pet Panther.

I agree. The character was fine, and a bit unusual when he came out (Salvatore's account of how he came up with Drizzt is pretty amusing). It was  the horde of players making dual wielding dark elfs with cloaks after they read Icewindale or the dark elf trilogy that made it so annoying. I just re-read the second trilogy and still found it enjoyable.

robiswrong

#93
August 29, 2013, 08:37:09 PM
The clones were a big problem, yeah.

The big thing I noticed as the impact of Drizz't is that it kind of marked the point at which the assumption that the characters were interesting because of who they were or what they did ended, and the idea that characters were interesting because of *what* they were became more dominant.

Playing a "normal" race or class became "boring".  You had to be something wild and crazy to have an interesting character.

RPGPundit

#94
August 31, 2013, 01:43:53 AM
Quote from: LibraryLass;685966I gather, then, you don't play a lot of 4e.
Which I had already inferred, of course.

You gathered rightly.
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#95
September 01, 2013, 12:34:34 AM
I'd say burn it with fire...but tieflings tend to be resistant.

I'd go back to the 3.X various breeds and call it a day. I doubt they can recapture the pure crazy from 2E Planescape days.
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