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Respectable reviewers?

Started by J Arcane, February 08, 2013, 03:51:35 PM

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Killfuck Soulshitter

I used to consider Kurt Weigel respectable, but I've learned since that he doesn't observe fish on Fridays, and moreover has a latent tendency to Disestablishmentarianism.

Bill

Quote from: Sacrosanct;626828I'd be very careful about KotDT.  At least one of the reviewers seems to have a preconceived notion of the product he's reviewing before he actually gets it.  For example, I sent a product that is designed for portable rules lite rpging (Compact Heroes).  Some of his chief complaints were that it didn't have as much detail as full rpg books (well duh, that was the whole point--not having to carry around rpg books), and he complained about several things that didn't have rules when in fact they were in the rules (like handling skill checks).  Which is odd in itself because he also complained that the rules were only 3 pages long, so I would think it would have been a fast read and those supposed missing rules would have been easy to find.  I'm not saying my game is perfect or anything, but most of the criticism was either misplaced, or outright false.

The really unfortunate thing is that because KotDT is widely read, I could literally track a huge drop off in sales right when that issue came out.  

No, I'm not bitter ;)


When a game I have been involved in creating gets a review, I can live with a reviewer not liking the game. That's cool, tastes vary.

But, when a reviewer gets facts wrong, it drives me crazy.

And per your example, not understanding the design goals is rage inducing.







I have Compact Heroes....hey! why is it so Compact!?!   :)

Sacrosanct

Quote from: Bill;627521When a game I have been involved in creating gets a review, I can live with a reviewer not liking the game. That's cool, tastes vary.

But, when a reviewer gets facts wrong, it drives me crazy.

And per your example, not understanding the design goals is rage inducing.







I have Compact Heroes....hey! why is it so Compact!?!   :)


As J Arcane mentioned, I am very hesitant about contacting reviewers after a review.  One thing I really want to avoid is coming off as that "that guy" who gets all defensive about a personal product without cause and getting into a public pissing match.  It's obvious he doesn't like the game, which is OK, and part of me worries that if I reply with a list of inaccuracies, they'll do the retraction along with a whole new list of things he hates about it.  That would sort of defeat the purpose I guess.  I mean, it seems to me that he rushed to judgement in the first review, so pointing out mistakes would just make the matter worse.
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Bill

Quote from: Sacrosanct;627536As J Arcane mentioned, I am very hesitant about contacting reviewers after a review.  One thing I really want to avoid is coming off as that "that guy" who gets all defensive about a personal product without cause and getting into a public pissing match.  It's obvious he doesn't like the game, which is OK, and part of me worries that if I reply with a list of inaccuracies, they'll do the retraction along with a whole new list of things he hates about it.  That would sort of defeat the purpose I guess.  I mean, it seems to me that he rushed to judgement in the first review, so pointing out mistakes would just make the matter worse.

Thanking them for the review might be the only option.

Then look for more reviewers and hope they are objective and actually read/test the game.

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Once in a while I get a point of fact, rather than opinion or the likes, wrong in a review.  If its something that is a question of pure fact (ie. I quote a rule wrong, or miss something in the mechanics) then I really want the writer/publisher to note it, for the sake of accuracy and completion.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;627719Once in a while I get a point of fact, rather than opinion or the likes, wrong in a review.  If its something that is a question of pure fact (ie. I quote a rule wrong, or miss something in the mechanics) then I really want the writer/publisher to note it, for the sake of accuracy and completion.

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Really. No reviewer would be worth his salt if he couldn't accept that.

On the other hand, there are those review-ees who are not so much pointing out something that was missed as trying to make an argument that a bad review was unfair for entirely non-objective reasons.

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