Holy fuck, that RPG.net thread is CRAZY TRAIN.

Quote from: ponta1010;1056389That led me to the interesting question regarding kickstarter. If I go and back this project and then identify myself as an MRA/Nazi/whatever before it funds, can the author refuse my funding before the kickstarter ends? Under kickstarter rules can my funding be refused? If I send this kickstarter into being funded, can the author then automatically decide to refund me once the kickstarter has ended?

I'm sure the shitbag will gladly take your money. Though I wonder what Kickstarter would do if creators started refusing backers for their alleged wrongthink.

If you want to blow some cash for LOLZ, it might be fun to back the game, then regularly post about the Dread Enemy in their updates and comment sections.

They do have a $1 pledge level...

Quote from: Vidgrip;1056408I'm just not good at hating people or rejecting the humanity of those I disagree with.

Don't worry padawan. We're here to help you master the WAYZ OF HATE!

Welcome aboard.

Well I see they have now scraped over the line by a couple hundred £. SocJus FTW I guess.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1056415Well, I'm sure the ideologes over at TBP got their rocks off over throwing the MRA, Nazi devils off the ramparts over this.

It's all over that thread. Anyone who questions the premise, let alone disagrees, gets labelled swiftly as The Enemy.

Stalin's jizzing in his grave.

Good news everyone! The general consensus on rpg.net is that a Nazi is someone who wants all the people they don't like dead.

Which just raises more questions.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1056391I'll say that Jim wanted to use the testimonial of an ex-MRA friend of hers who seems to be in the throes of some kind of mental issues.

How can anyone tell anymore?

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1056391She was personally upset by Metokur, and did get a bit off the hook over it.

Then she needs to own that a hell of a lot more than she's doing now. It's not like she's new to this game.

Quote from: Orphan81;1056403Jim is a troll, pure and simple. I've enjoyed some of his content, particularly the Hugbox Chronicles and DeviantArt... but I've had to unsubscribe from him recently, because he's legitimately doing things that are underhanded and wrong in my opinion.

Oh totally.

But given how aggressively he's gone after Mundane Matt, Bunty King, and Sargon of Akkad, he's an equal opportunity troll, which in the grand scheme of things I'm fine with.

Quote from: Vidgrip;1056408Yeah, I just got banned forever too.

And called a Nazi after you left.

Probably should ask rpg.net to remove that accusation.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1056453I'm sure the shitbag will gladly take your money. Though I wonder what Kickstarter would do if creators started refusing backers for their alleged wrongthink.

Only one way to find out.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1056453If you want to blow some cash for LOLZ, it might be fun to back the game, then regularly post about the Dread Enemy in their updates and comment sections.

A far more honest and effective tactic would be to simply state who you are and ask if you're welcome in their 'community'.

Quote from: S'mon;1056454Well I see they have now scraped over the line by a couple hundred £. SocJus FTW I guess.

It's unbelievable that this kind of shit works.

If you want to give your money to a political cause then do that.  But this is more like an environmentalist giving $100 dollars to his neighbour because he wants to upgrade to a more fuel efficient car.

Quote from: TJS;1056478It's unbelievable that this kind of shit works.

If you want to give your money to a political cause then do that.  But this is more like an environmentalist giving $100 dollars to his neighbour because he wants to upgrade to a more fuel efficient car.

Capitalism! Tricking commies into fighting for the rich one Starbucks at a time!

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1056473How can anyone tell anymore?

As someone who was a fan of Dean Esmay, and watching him go completely bonkers online for all to spectate, It's kind of a sore spot with me too.

QuoteThen she needs to own that a hell of a lot more than she's doing now. It's not like she's new to this game.

Maybe. Personally, I don't care. Metokur is a creepy troll, and I think the less mental energy spent on him is the less mental energy sucked into his drama vortex.

Quote from: TJS;1056478It's unbelievable that this kind of shit works.

It's how people filter their media consumption.

"I want to back your sci-fi fantasy game about hollowed out dragons being used as space ships by cyber-psychotic dwarves, but first I need to some things."
"Sure.  Let me guess: we're using a skill-based system rather than classes, with roll-under percentiles, and-"
"No no no.  I need to know how you stand on abortion!"
"You mean... in the setting?"
"Sure, but if you'd just share your personal stance that would save me a lot of time in making up my mind about the setting so I know to read it or not."

Anybody else remember when RPG.net had a -huge- crisis moment over the "Tournament of Rapists" adventure for Black Tokyo?  Hundreds and hundreds of people were commenting on it, boycotts of DriveThru were being organized (and pleas from unrelated self-publishers to -not- boycott, as their sales were how they afforded a cup of ramen once a month), company heads were speaking out against it.  And Drivethru said two people had actually downloaded the thing*.  So you had all this energy, all these opinions, and... none of them knew what they were talking about beyond a title basically.  The publisher came out, pulled their product, and pointed out the Tournament were bad guys to be fought, apologized (because you -have- to apologize for others' ignorance) and that was that.  

So it's a similar idea: people constructing reasons to support, or not support, something when they have little evidence to go by.

And given that TTRPGs on Kickstarter are generally a high-risk, low-reward venture for backers, they need -something- more to go by.  

(*I don't know what sociologists would call this.  "Echo chamber with an initial fart" doesn't sound right.  But it's not all that uncommon.  In literary circles, you have "the trouble with Susan" for the Chronicles of Narnia, where a bunch of really smart authors were upset that Susan wasn't in Narnia with the rest of her family at the end of the series because she liked wearing make up and going on dates.  Granted, none of the people complaining had read the book in question, or they'd realize -what- Susan had done and -why- she wasn't there (and I won't spoil it on the off chance somebody hasn't read a 70 year old series of children's books)).

Quote from: TJS;1056478It's unbelievable that this kind of shit works.

Well we have people here saying they're buying ACKS (good game!) on the same kind of principle.

Quote from: Vidgrip;1056408Yeah, I just got banned forever too.  Apparently I don't hate enough to hang with the other progressives.  Hopefully this site will set the bar lower for me.  I'm just not good at hating people or rejecting the humanity of those I disagree with.

I haven't posted there in years (over three), but I just logged in to check and am shocked I haven't been banned for off-site...whatevers.

Quote from: S'mon;1056454Well I see they have now scraped over the line by a couple hundred £. SocJus FTW I guess.

If you can call that winning. :rolleyes:

Wow. I'd just about given up on rgpnet already, but the linked thread cinches it. An especially obnoxious remark was

QuoteSince the Venn diagram of both is a almost perfectly overlaping circle with Nazis and it been the recruting pool for mass shooters... not , there is no wow about it.

Quote from: markmohrfield;1056531Wow. I'd just about given up on rggnet already, but the linked thread cinches it. An especially obnoxious remark was

Here's the funny part, this is based off an old study that claims Conservatives are more likely to be psychotic.  Thing is?  It's been found that the researches flipped the numbers.  Liberals are more likely to be psychotic.

That thread continues to be a gift of lols.

We're might need LoLz-Anon after this! Too many drunken LoLz binges!

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1056473A far more honest and effective tactic would be to simply state who you are and ask if you're welcome in their 'community'.

a) Does that tactic produce maximum LoLz? Cuz being "honest and effective" with asshats sounds like effort.

b) The creator and his clown car posse have already clearly stated wrongthinkers are NOT welcome in their community. The people banned on RPG.net weren't even championing wrongthink, they were just questioning the premise of the virtue signaling nonsense.

The game looks like shit, but his declaration got him what he wanted: money from people who will never play the game.