Have fun with this one, boys! Shred away!

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?833942-The-Free-Spacer-kickstarter-has-announced-that-they-don-t-want-MRAs-Nazis-and-other-shitlords-as-fans

Oh, it's funding level is telling. Maybe. I dunno. But, fuck them.

Edit: I noticed a lot of these retards are unemployed (as an overall bit on TBP). That’s not to say that being unemployed makes you a moron, but certainly one could spend less time railing about politics in elf-games and get a fucking job if you sweat dropping a buck on said elf-games.

Also, Adam Koebel is kind of a douche. I really like his characterization in Blades in the Dark, but otherwise...a whining weenie, it seems.

I’m gonna pass out now. Much love, ya’ll.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1056297Have fun with this one, boys! Shred away!

I'd seen this too, and almost commented on it at their site, but came to the conclusion it (a) would be a wasted effort and (b) should just be used as a case study to prove a large number of recently posted comments in various threads here about rpg.net and its members/administration.

All you have to say is Adam Koebel. Don't give him any money, btw. His political views should be no more than non-profit.

And RPG.NET's forum is purple for a reason.

There's a weird relationship with capitalism going on with this kind of thing.

We're going to sell our product on the open market to anyone willing to pay - but pretend we're not really doing that!

There's also a kind of pre-admission of defeat going on here as well.  If the need to publish something separate from a game in order to try and influence it's intended audience to have the kind of politics you want then obviously you're already conceding in advance the futility of trying to actually make the games themselves have any kind of political effect.  So much for the "idea of social justice ingrained within" - it can't be that ingrained can it if you're afraid people completely unsympathetic to the idea might still like your game?  

(It's also bizarrely ruling out the idea that people unsympathetic to the game's politics might play the game and become sympathetic.  Which, while obviously not likely to happen, would seem to be a necessary possibility if you want to claim your game to have political content in any meaningful sense).

I'm not a fan of all this cross-forum drama. Why give publicity to bad people? It's different if good (or just ordinary) people are being directly attacked or threatened, but I think general scumminess should just be ignored.

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This looks like a desperate attempt to whip up enough publicity to get this failing project to reach its Kickstarter goal.

I had been watching this KS because I was intrigued by the preview stuff, but I vote with my wallet. If you mix politics with your RPG, you go fuck off.

I play lots of games at the same table with self-professed SJWs and we always have a good time because everyone leaves their retarded shit at the door. We know we're there to have fun and toss dice, not to pass judgment on each other via purity tests.

It's funny how Men's Rights Activists are targeted. The most vocal MRAs I've met are stepmoms whose husbands and children were horribly abused by the family law courts. The other surprisingly loud "MRA" group are moms of boys who want to raise solid men, not SJW approved broken bitches. I'm always surprised how the SJWs forget how many moms fiercely love their sons and their husbands as men, never wanting them to become dickless weaklings.

I wonder if this is gonna be another "go woke, go broke" Kickstarter campaign where the author pockets the cash and runs for the hills.

The question I'd want to ask:

"Define 'Nazi'."

Again it looks like common sense has been catapulted to Pluto with this one.

So, some no mark company releases a stupid 'lets all hug' statement and all these purple people start saying.
"I wasn't going to back this project but after this I will."

I mean, who cares if the game is good it's only the politics that really matter.:rolleyes:

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This looks like a desperate attempt to whip up enough publicity to get this failing project to reach its Kickstarter goal.

What moron starts a Kickstarter without funds to top it off if he needs to?

Quote from: Rhedyn;1056320What moron starts a Kickstarter without funds to top it off if he needs to?

Maybe one who is using the Kickstarter as a means to gauge interest in a product without the need for the significant capital risk involved in said project.

What type of person runs a Kickstarter asking for more than they really need to kickstart their project?

I actually bit the bullet and responded to the lumping of MRAs with Nazis.  While this will virtually guarantee a hamster-wheel, I just don't agree with echo chambers.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1056320What moron starts a Kickstarter without funds to top it off if he needs to?

Probably too many that think Kickstarter equals free money without actually having to produce anything.

The pearl clutching and swooning about to pass out from the posters about trying to find any common ground over at Sodom and Gomorrah (TBP) is a hoot and predictable as hell. I hope the project fails. Go woke and stupidly announce it when kickstarting a project you deserve to go damn broke.

Quote from: ronwisegamgee;1056323I actually bit the bullet and responded to the lumping of MRAs with Nazis.  While this will virtually guarantee a hamster-wheel, I just don't agree with echo chambers.

Hopefully you won't get a ban yet given their standard procedure hopefully you won't miss that place. Not that it's something you should care really.

Quote from: TJS;1056301There's a weird relationship with capitalism going on with this kind of thing.

We're going to sell our product on the open market to anyone willing to pay - but pretend we're not really doing that!

There's also a kind of pre-admission of defeat going on here as well.  If the need to publish something separate from a game in order to try and influence it's intended audience to have the kind of politics you want then obviously you're already conceding in advance the futility of trying to actually make the games themselves have any kind of political effect.  So much for the "idea of social justice ingrained within" - it can't be that ingrained can it if you're afraid people completely unsympathetic to the idea might still like your game?  

(It's also bizarrely ruling out the idea that people unsympathetic to the game's politics might play the game and become sympathetic.  Which, while obviously not likely to happen, would seem to be a necessary possibility if you want to claim your game to have political content in any meaningful sense).

Look at Evergreen College and university of mizzou. They let the inmates take over the asylum. engaging in some very short term thinking that it would be okay to do nothing and let the students run rampant because it's all bout the "feels" and "reasons" instead of thinking about receiving funding and public perception. Both screwed themselves over with funding being cut, enrollment way down, and students with half a brain going elsewhere because they don't want a diploma with either colleges name on them.

Yeah, i was appalled by that thread as well...so men's rights activists are now shitlords? And more or less the same as Nazis?

As someone else already said, i want to see their definition for both Nazi and MRA. I probably can agree about the Nazi thing, but MRA? If you think MRA are shitlords then you have to include any and all feminists as well...because most of them are a lot more radical then the MRAs i know.

Then again we are talking about users mostly out of the US of A ... so maybe they do have totally crazy MRA members. But i am pretty sure (as demonstrated by lots and lots of idiots on rpg.net) so do feminists. So yeah, the pot calling the kettle black and all that... the level of double standards and hypocrisy on the social medias and places like TBP are beyond the pale.