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Politics, Cavscout, and Jackalope.

Started by RPGPundit, January 21, 2009, 10:33:47 AM

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Spinachcat

Quote from: Jackalope;279749rapist-in-waiting

Hmm...that's new.  Not sure it makes any sense, but its got spunk.


Quote from: Jackalope;279749some of you pieces of fucking crap are so fucking attached to your ideas that you can bear to fucking admit that my opinions might have value

Oh the irony.


Quote from: Jackalope;279749TURDBURGLARS

Turdburglar, I knew thee well.  I hath missed thee for many years.   What a wonderful, though dated pseudo-insult of childhood!  It's got 80s teen comedy gold written all over it.


Quote from: Jackalope;279749It's stupid, boring fucking forum anyway, and it'll be dead in a year.

If one subforum were to die, Politics would not be missed.   Might even make the site stronger and refocus people on the game areas.

JongWK

Quote from: Werekoala;280074A step in the right direction - not that I've been missed, but it'll be nice to end my self-imposed exile.

Huh, I was wondering about you yesterday... :)

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Seanchai

Quote from: RPGPundit;279905We do not, and have never moderated speech here; nor is anyone banned for speech/opinion. We have always, and continue to, moderate for disruptive behaviour that negatively affects the forums.

Except you've decided some folk's speech and opinions are negatively affecting the forum. Moreover, it's not as if some objective third-party is deciding what's disruptive. And if you separate the speech from the behavior, isn't the behavior pretty wide-spread? It not as if gamers are known for their easy-going natures and flexibility and lack of pedantry when it comes to rules.

But, that aside, a topic ban? Really? That's sooo TBP.

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Quote from: Seanchai;280111Except you've decided some folk's speech and opinions are negatively affecting the forum. Moreover, it's not as if some objective third-party is deciding what's disruptive. And if you separate the speech from the behavior, isn't the behavior pretty wide-spread? It not as if gamers are known for their easy-going natures and flexibility and lack of pedantry when it comes to rules.

But, that aside, a topic ban? Really? That's sooo TBP.

Seanchai

You're really grasping at straws here, dude. I know you dislike me, but this is pretty sad. The rest of the Pundit-hating crowd hasn't even come out for this one, yet here you are, the one lone nutcase waving his sign in the air. Its the saddest protest of all, when you realize there's only one guy who's out to lunch enough to think this is a travesty of justice.

Again, there's a difference between speech and behaviour.
Think that islam is a terrible danger to civilization? You're entitled to say so. Say so in every single thread on OT, regardless of relevancy, and you've got a behaviour problem.
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Jackalope

Quote from: Spinachcat;280101Hmm...that's new.  Not sure it makes any sense, but its got spunk.

Koltar is a rapist-in-waiting,assuming he hasn't already molested a thirteen year old somewhere.  I base this on his pathological obsession with getting close to women without making a move on them.  Men with these sort of delusional pathologies eventually begin resenting women for not fucking them despite their inability to man up and make a real move.  This leads to rape.

It was actually tangential to my rant, but fuck Koltar.  Seriously.  He sucks.

QuoteTurdburglar, I knew thee well.  I hath missed thee for many years.   What a wonderful, though dated pseudo-insult of childhood!  It's got 80s teen comedy gold written all over it.

Glad someone appreciated it.

QuoteIf one subforum were to die, Politics would not be missed.   Might even make the site stronger and refocus people on the game areas.

The only thing that will cause that is something happening in the gaming world.  The only thing that is actually active and happening in the gaming world is the Forge-theory-design circuit (sad as that may be),and since that can't be discussed here...there's nothing new to talk about.  It's just the same boring conversation circling the drain.

Quote from: PunditYou're really grasping at straws here, dude. I know you dislike me, but this is pretty sad. The rest of the Pundit-hating crowd hasn't even come out for this one, yet here you are, the one lone nutcase waving his sign in the air. Its the saddest protest of all, when you realize there's only one guy who's out to lunch enough to think this is a travesty of justice.

Again, there's a difference between speech and behaviour.
Think that islam is a terrible danger to civilization? You're entitled to say so. Say so in every single thread on OT, regardless of relevancy, and you've got a behaviour problem.
Capish?

Actually Pundit, he's got you nailed.  So does CavScout.

The problem with you claim is that you can't find anything that either either CavScout or I argue that is the equivalent of "Think that islam is a terrible danger to civilization?"  That's because neither Cav or I is that monotone.

What people are really taking offense to is cav and I's posting styles, the way we approach our ideas and discuss them.

I'll admit to being a tenacious bulldog who doesn't like to give up a point.  I especially don't like rolling over for a pathetic argument, and will go tooth and nail for days to make my position clear.  I'll hammer and hammer and hammer on my point until everyone who is arguing with me either understands it or leaves the thread.  The long threads are an accidental by-product of my unwillingness to surrender to unconvincing arguments and personal attacks -- and no joke, several of the users here rely entirely on subtle character assassination when they don't have a leg to stand on:Spike, HinterWelt, Engine, etc.  These guys don't like me because I actually hold their feet to the fire when I challenge them.

The most recent examples can be found in the Aang Ain't Asian thread where SPIKE spent page after page attacking a straw man and vomitting shitty,poorly thought out arguments.   All I did was stick to my point.  The length of that thread was solely a result of Spike's utter inability to accept the fact that dear god maybe Jackalope has a point.

The other recent example is Bill in the Atheist Idiocy thread, who spent page after page after page attacking a strawman in a pathetic effort to portray me as someone blinded by hatred for Christianity, rather than just admitting that he, like most people, doesn't find the argument from literal interpretation viable.   That thread went on so long because BILL couldn't let go of his need to assassinate my character and actually listen to what I was really saying.

The only reason you don't see that from me in the RPG forums is because the majority of the conversation there is so fucking trite and trivial that no one bothers to argue anything.

I don't do tit for tat.  My posts may go off on tangents, as I follow the natural flow of the conversation, but my goal is always to communicate my ideas clearly and have them received the way I intend.  I don't, as a general rule, fuck with people just to fuck with them.

Cav on the other hand is a troll.  He brags about pointless dragging out conversation, calling himself a "puppet master" because he can derail conversations.  You've all seen him do it, turn a conversation from productive to tit-for-tat with his inane one-line posts.  You can see it in his inability or unwillingness to ever answer a direct question -- and I don't mean gotcha question,I mean question like "Could you clarify what you mean by that?

Ask Cav to clarify his position, you know what the response will be.  An insult!

Ask me to clarify my position, I'll write you a fucking novel.

And I don't care if you hope that I will return and continue contributing to the RPG section.  It ain't going to happen.  You can restore me fully and fucking apologize for lumping me in with a clear and obvious troll or you suck it.
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Drohem

Quote from: Jackalope;280131Koltar is a rapist-in-waiting,assuming he hasn't already molested a thirteen year old somewhere.  I base this on his pathological obsession with getting close to women without making a move on them.  Men with these sort of delusional pathologies eventually begin resenting women for not fucking them despite their inability to man up and make a real move.  This leads to rape.

It was actually tangential to my rant, but fuck Koltar.  Seriously.  He sucks.

You are quite the asshole for this little tidbit.  Please stick to your guns and never return.

RPGPundit

Jackalope, you can rant as much as you like here; but I'd already made it clear that these kinds of attacks that you've dumped on Koltar are beyond the limits of what's acceptable here.
If you really want to flame out, and end up proving yourself way more of a troll (and way more immature) than Cavscout, be my guest. Otherwise, you won't bring up that particular line of character assassination again here.
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Jackalope, Koltar may seem creepy at times (rarely), but he has donated a lot time and money to charities. Supported gaming both on and off the internet.

And most importantly, has never threatened to throw a bag of shit at people because they thought him emotionally unbalanced.

You on the other hand, were suspect immediately, and self-identified as a walking clusterfuck the moment you claimed that interracial dating was a way the white man diluted the other races. That was about quite a few months ago. You haven't improved any with age.
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Second: Thank you to those 4 or 5 of you who stuck up for me in your unique ways and style.

The kind of crap I saw posted earlier in the thread is why I don't think much of the politics sub-forum.

Oh and saying Pundit or anyone censors Conservative thought on here?

Thats just not true.

Most on here think of me as conservative (so be it) - I've never felt my opinions were censored in any way.

I HAVE felt nudged or influenced to post more in the Role Playing section from time to time - which is perfectly fine. This is supposed to be a Role Playing Games forum after all.


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Quote from: jeff37923;280139You on the other hand, were suspect immediately, and self-identified as a walking clusterfuck the moment you claimed that interracial dating was a way the white man diluted the other races. That was about quite a few months ago. You haven't improved any with age.

See,this is the kind of shit I put up with on this forum.

You're both an idiot AND a lying sack of crap Jeff, because I never said that.  That is just you taking something I said, twisting it around, and turning it into something else.

And this is like what, a year later?

What I said was that being willing to fuck black girls doesn't mean you're not racist.  But you, fucking imbecile that you are, are incapable of understanding a very very fucking simple point like that.  Being colorblind to pussy doesn't mean you aren't a racist.

How hard is it to understand? Not very.  But no, you like all the other submoronic fuckwits around here, can't handle that. So you go and you make up shit because that's all you've got.

Just like the throwing dog shit thing.  I don't have to defend that, because I never actually did that.  It was just some fucked up shit I said to fuck with someone's head because they got me banned from TBP, and you know that.  Because I've told you about a dozen times.  But that little fucking shitnugget that you pretend is your brain latched on to it, closed your fucking ears, and decided you knew fucking everything.

And then  hypocritical waste of skin that you are, you proceed to whip out your inane theories every fucking time I say something you don't like.  Because that's easier than dealing with the topic at hand. Dealing with the topic at hand requires using your brain, and we all know how much that hurts poor dumb Jeff.

Seriously man, do you think a single person on this forum actually respects your intelligence?  They don't.  Nobody does.  That you are an idiot is plainly obvious to everyone who meets you.

See, you're a pussy Jeff, and you're scared of me. You know I'm smarter, wittier and all around better than you. You know in your heart that you are a stupid, pathetic, basement crawling loser and since every time we butt heads you get a painful ego-crushing reminder that there are people smarter than you in the world,you hate me.  And so you make these comments, hide behind the ignore function, and only pop out when you're fellow craven fuckbuddies are rolling like a posse.   It's only when you can snipe from numbers that you make an appearance.

Then pretend you aren't a craven fucking coward.

But everyone knows.  

Even you're mom knows.
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Jackalope

Quote from: RPGPundit;280135Jackalope, you can rant as much as you like here; but I'd already made it clear that these kinds of attacks that you've dumped on Koltar are beyond the limits of what's acceptable here.
If you really want to flame out, and end up proving yourself way more of a troll (and way more immature) than Cavscout, be my guest. Otherwise, you won't bring up that particular line of character assassination again here.
Last warning.

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Go fuck yourself Pundit!

You're threatening me with banning because I think Koltar is a rape waiting to happen?  After you banned me from the only part of the site that is actually interesting day in and day out?

Are you fucking stupid?  Do you have any clue how moronic of a threat that is?  As far as I'm concerned, I'm already banned from this site.  All you're threatening me with is ending this thread.  OOOOOOH I'M SO FUCKING SCARED!

Do it, you fucking pussy.  Prove to everyone here how much you really value free speech. We all know the truth; You crave respect and attention, and you can't get it anywhere else,so you had to make you're own little playground with your own little rules where everybody has to kiss your ass.  You don't respect free speech, you just crave respect.  You must have gotten your ass kicked a lot as a kid.

Like the whole joke about how YOU make the decisions, not the mods. Whatever.  You caved into them because you desperately need their support, and you had to make a big point of how it was YOUR decision because god forbid anyone think you don't have the Biggest E-Penis Ever.

Anyways Pundit, you and I both know you're only defending Koltar to avoid addressing the stuff I actually said to you.  But hey, at least you're notstupid, like Jeff.  Won't call you that.  When you dodge a point, you're at least subtle about it.
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Quote from: Jackalope;280162Go fuck yourself Pundit!

You're threatening me with banning because I think Koltar is a rape waiting to happen?  After you banned me from the only part of the site that is actually interesting day in and day out?

Are you fucking stupid?  Do you have any clue how moronic of a threat that is?  As far as I'm concerned, I'm already banned from this site.  All you're threatening me with is ending this thread.  OOOOOOH I'M SO FUCKING SCARED!

Are you now?

QuoteDo it, you fucking pussy.  Prove to everyone here how much you really value free speech.

Free speech has nothing to do with you repeatedly slandering someone else on this forum with one of the most appalling accusations possible.

QuoteWe all know the truth; You crave respect and attention, and you can't get it anywhere else,so you had to make you're own little playground with your own little rules where everybody has to kiss your ass.  You don't respect free speech, you just crave respect.  You must have gotten your ass kicked a lot as a kid.

Respect? Really? Yes, clearly my posting history and blog and overall online personality is oriented toward winning the most respect possible... you moronic fuck.
I get my respect from places and people that matter, not from what the online gaming community thinks of me. Were you to accuse me of craving controversy at least you'd have more material to make an argument.

QuoteLike the whole joke about how YOU make the decisions, not the mods. Whatever.  You caved into them because you desperately need their support, and you had to make a big point of how it was YOUR decision because god forbid anyone think you don't have the Biggest E-Penis Ever.

Dude, I consult them and everyone else on this forum because I want to hear everyone's point of view. If I were to "cave to the other mods" you'd have been banned six months ago, you stupid sack of shit.

There's only one person here who can end up getting you banned, Jackalope, and its not me. Its you.  If you want to flame out, go right ahead, though unlike most people who decide to be "an hero" on this forum, I'll have a twinge of regret about you, since I have tended to agree with you more often than not when it comes to RPG topics, and I thought you wrote well about the subject when you bothered to.  I even tend to be closer to your politics than to, say, Cavscout's.
All you need to do is grow some perspective and quit being such a fucking little spaz.

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jeff37923

Quote from: Jackalope;280159See,this is the kind of shit I put up with on this forum.

You're both an idiot AND a lying sack of crap Jeff, because I never said that.  That is just you taking something I said, twisting it around, and turning it into something else.

And this is like what, a year later?

What I said was that being willing to fuck black girls doesn't mean you're not racist.  But you, fucking imbecile that you are, are incapable of understanding a very very fucking simple point like that.  Being colorblind to pussy doesn't mean you aren't a racist.

How hard is it to understand? Not very.  But no, you like all the other submoronic fuckwits around here, can't handle that. So you go and you make up shit because that's all you've got.

Just like the throwing dog shit thing.  I don't have to defend that, because I never actually did that.  It was just some fucked up shit I said to fuck with someone's head because they got me banned from TBP, and you know that.  Because I've told you about a dozen times.  But that little fucking shitnugget that you pretend is your brain latched on to it, closed your fucking ears, and decided you knew fucking everything.

And then  hypocritical waste of skin that you are, you proceed to whip out your inane theories every fucking time I say something you don't like.  Because that's easier than dealing with the topic at hand. Dealing with the topic at hand requires using your brain, and we all know how much that hurts poor dumb Jeff.

Seriously man, do you think a single person on this forum actually respects your intelligence?  They don't.  Nobody does.  That you are an idiot is plainly obvious to everyone who meets you.

See, you're a pussy Jeff, and you're scared of me. You know I'm smarter, wittier and all around better than you. You know in your heart that you are a stupid, pathetic, basement crawling loser and since every time we butt heads you get a painful ego-crushing reminder that there are people smarter than you in the world,you hate me.  And so you make these comments, hide behind the ignore function, and only pop out when you're fellow craven fuckbuddies are rolling like a posse.   It's only when you can snipe from numbers that you make an appearance.

Then pretend you aren't a craven fucking coward.

But everyone knows.  

Even you're mom knows.

Don't ever change. Your postings exist to humor us all.

Snerk! You even include a "Yo Mama" in your rant, that is absolutely classic.
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