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RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

Started by Ghostmaker, July 27, 2021, 08:10:46 AM

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Jason Coplen

Someone cried like a bitch and started a thread over there called an open letter to gencon. Sheesh! The sheer craziness involved astounds me.
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David Johansen

If they aren't going I might consider it this year.
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Trond

Quote from: Jason Coplen on January 30, 2024, 05:54:39 PM
Someone cried like a bitch and started a thread over there called an open letter to gencon. Sheesh! The sheer craziness involved astounds me.

QuoteBecause Indiana's legislature is trying to outlaw the very existence of people I love — people I want to bring with me to GenCon because they enjoy the same hobbies I do.

Huh? They're outlawing who?

Jason Coplen

Quote from: Trond on January 30, 2024, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: Jason Coplen on January 30, 2024, 05:54:39 PM
Someone cried like a bitch and started a thread over there called an open letter to gencon. Sheesh! The sheer craziness involved astounds me.

QuoteBecause Indiana's legislature is trying to outlaw the very existence of people I love — people I want to bring with me to GenCon because they enjoy the same hobbies I do.

Huh? They're outlawing who?

LOL Beats me.
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rytrasmi

It's the biological sex bill. Apparently the state codifying basic biology is a bad thing.

If the bill becomes law, a trans person is merely recognized as a person just like the rest of us. They don't get to be "gender affirmed" by the state. Maybe that will motivate some to get the help they need. Who knows.

The activists should have stopped before the whole "trans women are women" thing. After that the backlash was inevitable.
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wmarshal

Quote from: rytrasmi on January 30, 2024, 10:24:33 PM
It's the biological sex bill. Apparently the state codifying basic biology is a bad thing.

If the bill becomes law, a trans person is merely recognized as a person just like the rest of us. They don't get to be "gender affirmed" by the state. Maybe that will motivate some to get the help they need. Who knows.

The activists should have stopped before the whole "trans women are women" thing. After that the backlash was inevitable.
It is impossible for the activists to stop. They HAVE to enforce that everyone affirm their dysphoria. If anyone defies their 2 + 2 = 5 belief that person is a reminder that their dysphoria isn't reality. That's why they had to go after the baker over and over again that nobody would know about otherwise. They could go to Indianapolis for a few days and most likely encounter 0 problems at Gen Con. However, knowing that the state of Indiana does not go along with their deception causes cognitive break. To avoid that interruption of their deception they want to be able to not think about Indiana at all. They cannot attend Gen Con in Indianapolis without being reminded that they are in Indiana, and that Indiana does not support their delusion.

The people suffering from gender dysphoria have my sympathy. I've known a couple, and they didn't go through that for kicks; which is different than the sizable number of creeps jumping onto the label to infiltrate female spaces. They have a need to have their dysphoria supported and reinforced. Where they become totalitarian is when they demand that everyone else support their delusion as well.

I'm more concerned about the "allies" who aren't suffering from gender dysphoria themselves. It seems like they're using the transgender community to leverage the public into going along with their 2 + 2 = 5 logic ("transwomen are women") because they know that if they can get the population to go along with that, then they'll be able to force people to go along with anything. It's the technique of the totalitarian ideology of breaking people by turning them into blatant liars.

As to Gen Con leaving Indianapolis they are in a contract to be there through 2030. The current hullabaloo is mere virtue signaling. Even after 2030 it would be extremely difficult for Gen Con to change locations successfully. If they were to try it's much more likely that they would fail and significantly decrease their revenues if not collapse. The Woke would have a better chance at success turning Indiana purple the next decade. That'd also be a heavy lift, but more likely given the minds of mush the upcoming generations seem to have. About 1/5 of Gen Z are Holocaust deniers, and the trend lines are frightening. We are so screwed.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: wmarshal on January 31, 2024, 12:38:45 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 30, 2024, 10:24:33 PM
It's the biological sex bill. Apparently the state codifying basic biology is a bad thing.

If the bill becomes law, a trans person is merely recognized as a person just like the rest of us. They don't get to be "gender affirmed" by the state. Maybe that will motivate some to get the help they need. Who knows.

The activists should have stopped before the whole "trans women are women" thing. After that the backlash was inevitable.
It is impossible for the activists to stop. They HAVE to enforce that everyone affirm their dysphoria. If anyone defies their 2 + 2 = 5 belief that person is a reminder that their dysphoria isn't reality. That's why they had to go after the baker over and over again that nobody would know about otherwise. They could go to Indianapolis for a few days and most likely encounter 0 problems at Gen Con. However, knowing that the state of Indiana does not go along with their deception causes cognitive break. To avoid that interruption of their deception they want to be able to not think about Indiana at all. They cannot attend Gen Con in Indianapolis without being reminded that they are in Indiana, and that Indiana does not support their delusion.

The people suffering from gender dysphoria have my sympathy. I've known a couple, and they didn't go through that for kicks; which is different than the sizable number of creeps jumping onto the label to infiltrate female spaces. They have a need to have their dysphoria supported and reinforced. Where they become totalitarian is when they demand that everyone else support their delusion as well.

I'm more concerned about the "allies" who aren't suffering from gender dysphoria themselves. It seems like they're using the transgender community to leverage the public into going along with their 2 + 2 = 5 logic ("transwomen are women") because they know that if they can get the population to go along with that, then they'll be able to force people to go along with anything. It's the technique of the totalitarian ideology of breaking people by turning them into blatant liars.

As to Gen Con leaving Indianapolis they are in a contract to be there through 2030. The current hullabaloo is mere virtue signaling. Even after 2030 it would be extremely difficult for Gen Con to change locations successfully. If they were to try it's much more likely that they would fail and significantly decrease their revenues if not collapse. The Woke would have a better chance at success turning Indiana purple the next decade. That'd also be a heavy lift, but more likely given the minds of mush the upcoming generations seem to have. About 1/5 of Gen Z are Holocaust deniers, and the trend lines are frightening. We are so screwed.

When I saw "outlaw the existence" I was 99% sure it was trans activists. And yes, empathy for people suffering gender dysphoria, but that isn't a blank check for all this gender identity nonsense that the activists are pushing.
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oggsmash

Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 31, 2024, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: wmarshal on January 31, 2024, 12:38:45 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 30, 2024, 10:24:33 PM
It's the biological sex bill. Apparently the state codifying basic biology is a bad thing.

If the bill becomes law, a trans person is merely recognized as a person just like the rest of us. They don't get to be "gender affirmed" by the state. Maybe that will motivate some to get the help they need. Who knows.

The activists should have stopped before the whole "trans women are women" thing. After that the backlash was inevitable.
It is impossible for the activists to stop. They HAVE to enforce that everyone affirm their dysphoria. If anyone defies their 2 + 2 = 5 belief that person is a reminder that their dysphoria isn't reality. That's why they had to go after the baker over and over again that nobody would know about otherwise. They could go to Indianapolis for a few days and most likely encounter 0 problems at Gen Con. However, knowing that the state of Indiana does not go along with their deception causes cognitive break. To avoid that interruption of their deception they want to be able to not think about Indiana at all. They cannot attend Gen Con in Indianapolis without being reminded that they are in Indiana, and that Indiana does not support their delusion.

The people suffering from gender dysphoria have my sympathy. I've known a couple, and they didn't go through that for kicks; which is different than the sizable number of creeps jumping onto the label to infiltrate female spaces. They have a need to have their dysphoria supported and reinforced. Where they become totalitarian is when they demand that everyone else support their delusion as well.

I'm more concerned about the "allies" who aren't suffering from gender dysphoria themselves. It seems like they're using the transgender community to leverage the public into going along with their 2 + 2 = 5 logic ("transwomen are women") because they know that if they can get the population to go along with that, then they'll be able to force people to go along with anything. It's the technique of the totalitarian ideology of breaking people by turning them into blatant liars.

As to Gen Con leaving Indianapolis they are in a contract to be there through 2030. The current hullabaloo is mere virtue signaling. Even after 2030 it would be extremely difficult for Gen Con to change locations successfully. If they were to try it's much more likely that they would fail and significantly decrease their revenues if not collapse. The Woke would have a better chance at success turning Indiana purple the next decade. That'd also be a heavy lift, but more likely given the minds of mush the upcoming generations seem to have. About 1/5 of Gen Z are Holocaust deniers, and the trend lines are frightening. We are so screwed.

When I saw "outlaw the existence" I was 99% sure it was trans activists. And yes, empathy for people suffering gender dysphoria, but that isn't a blank check for all this gender identity nonsense that the activists are pushing.

  If I am being 100 percent honest...I had empathy for the condition before....NOW??  I am ok with outlawing existence at least in any way it is recognized legally or socially.  So I think their behavior is having the effect they screech about rather than preventing it.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: oggsmash on January 31, 2024, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 31, 2024, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: wmarshal on January 31, 2024, 12:38:45 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 30, 2024, 10:24:33 PM
It's the biological sex bill. Apparently the state codifying basic biology is a bad thing.

If the bill becomes law, a trans person is merely recognized as a person just like the rest of us. They don't get to be "gender affirmed" by the state. Maybe that will motivate some to get the help they need. Who knows.

The activists should have stopped before the whole "trans women are women" thing. After that the backlash was inevitable.
It is impossible for the activists to stop. They HAVE to enforce that everyone affirm their dysphoria. If anyone defies their 2 + 2 = 5 belief that person is a reminder that their dysphoria isn't reality. That's why they had to go after the baker over and over again that nobody would know about otherwise. They could go to Indianapolis for a few days and most likely encounter 0 problems at Gen Con. However, knowing that the state of Indiana does not go along with their deception causes cognitive break. To avoid that interruption of their deception they want to be able to not think about Indiana at all. They cannot attend Gen Con in Indianapolis without being reminded that they are in Indiana, and that Indiana does not support their delusion.

The people suffering from gender dysphoria have my sympathy. I've known a couple, and they didn't go through that for kicks; which is different than the sizable number of creeps jumping onto the label to infiltrate female spaces. They have a need to have their dysphoria supported and reinforced. Where they become totalitarian is when they demand that everyone else support their delusion as well.

I'm more concerned about the "allies" who aren't suffering from gender dysphoria themselves. It seems like they're using the transgender community to leverage the public into going along with their 2 + 2 = 5 logic ("transwomen are women") because they know that if they can get the population to go along with that, then they'll be able to force people to go along with anything. It's the technique of the totalitarian ideology of breaking people by turning them into blatant liars.

As to Gen Con leaving Indianapolis they are in a contract to be there through 2030. The current hullabaloo is mere virtue signaling. Even after 2030 it would be extremely difficult for Gen Con to change locations successfully. If they were to try it's much more likely that they would fail and significantly decrease their revenues if not collapse. The Woke would have a better chance at success turning Indiana purple the next decade. That'd also be a heavy lift, but more likely given the minds of mush the upcoming generations seem to have. About 1/5 of Gen Z are Holocaust deniers, and the trend lines are frightening. We are so screwed.

When I saw "outlaw the existence" I was 99% sure it was trans activists. And yes, empathy for people suffering gender dysphoria, but that isn't a blank check for all this gender identity nonsense that the activists are pushing.

  If I am being 100 percent honest...I had empathy for the condition before....NOW??  I am ok with outlawing existence at least in any way it is recognized legally or socially.  So I think their behavior is having the effect they screech about rather than preventing it.

Person A has body dysmorphia and thinks it's too fat so he engages in weight control meausures like vomiting, we DO NOT affirm the condition.

Person B has body dysmorphia and thinks he should be blind, amputee, quadraplegic, etc. we DO NOT affirm the condition.

Person C has a mental condition and thinks he's Napoleon... We DO NOT affirm the condition.

Person TQ+ has body dysmorphia and thinks he/she was born in the wrong sex... We should affirm the condition?

Affirming, hormones, operations, etc DO NOT reduce the 41% suicide rate, yet we keep being told WE are commiting genocide by not partaking in the delusion...

Can someone make it make sense? Why isn't psychotherapy or psychiatric treatment the option?
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rytrasmi

Rosemary Kennedy was 22 and started acting difficult and moody, so her father arranged a lobotomy.

Some boy feels like he was born the wrong sex, so his parent arranges hormones and a surgery consultation.

The parallel is obvious. One is recognized as backwards and insane, while the other is happening right now. SMH.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

Ratman_tf

Quote from: oggsmash on January 31, 2024, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on January 31, 2024, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: wmarshal on January 31, 2024, 12:38:45 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on January 30, 2024, 10:24:33 PM
It's the biological sex bill. Apparently the state codifying basic biology is a bad thing.

If the bill becomes law, a trans person is merely recognized as a person just like the rest of us. They don't get to be "gender affirmed" by the state. Maybe that will motivate some to get the help they need. Who knows.

The activists should have stopped before the whole "trans women are women" thing. After that the backlash was inevitable.
It is impossible for the activists to stop. They HAVE to enforce that everyone affirm their dysphoria. If anyone defies their 2 + 2 = 5 belief that person is a reminder that their dysphoria isn't reality. That's why they had to go after the baker over and over again that nobody would know about otherwise. They could go to Indianapolis for a few days and most likely encounter 0 problems at Gen Con. However, knowing that the state of Indiana does not go along with their deception causes cognitive break. To avoid that interruption of their deception they want to be able to not think about Indiana at all. They cannot attend Gen Con in Indianapolis without being reminded that they are in Indiana, and that Indiana does not support their delusion.

The people suffering from gender dysphoria have my sympathy. I've known a couple, and they didn't go through that for kicks; which is different than the sizable number of creeps jumping onto the label to infiltrate female spaces. They have a need to have their dysphoria supported and reinforced. Where they become totalitarian is when they demand that everyone else support their delusion as well.

I'm more concerned about the "allies" who aren't suffering from gender dysphoria themselves. It seems like they're using the transgender community to leverage the public into going along with their 2 + 2 = 5 logic ("transwomen are women") because they know that if they can get the population to go along with that, then they'll be able to force people to go along with anything. It's the technique of the totalitarian ideology of breaking people by turning them into blatant liars.

As to Gen Con leaving Indianapolis they are in a contract to be there through 2030. The current hullabaloo is mere virtue signaling. Even after 2030 it would be extremely difficult for Gen Con to change locations successfully. If they were to try it's much more likely that they would fail and significantly decrease their revenues if not collapse. The Woke would have a better chance at success turning Indiana purple the next decade. That'd also be a heavy lift, but more likely given the minds of mush the upcoming generations seem to have. About 1/5 of Gen Z are Holocaust deniers, and the trend lines are frightening. We are so screwed.

When I saw "outlaw the existence" I was 99% sure it was trans activists. And yes, empathy for people suffering gender dysphoria, but that isn't a blank check for all this gender identity nonsense that the activists are pushing.

  If I am being 100 percent honest...I had empathy for the condition before....NOW??  I am ok with outlawing existence at least in any way it is recognized legally or socially.  So I think their behavior is having the effect they screech about rather than preventing it.

It's helped me to seperate trans people from trans activism. But yes, I too went from thinking trans was icky, to having some empathy for people with gender dysphoria, to hating trans activism for it's insanity and insistence that we affirm their insanity.
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oggsmash

  I am not one for separating.  I feel sorry for anyone stricken with mental illness, but before I was fine with live and let live.  Now...I do not want your crazy ass anywhere around me or anyone I know.  I guess they can thank their activism for that.