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RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

Started by Ghostmaker, July 27, 2021, 08:10:46 AM

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Abbo1993

Doesn't seem like they are banning people like they used to, they seem to be relying more on infractions these days, guess they did the math and figured they are running out of people to ban.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 18, 2023, 11:10:40 AM
Doesn't seem like they are banning people like they used to, they seem to be relying more on infractions these days, guess they did the math and figured they are running out of people to ban.
I think they've bagged most of if not all the easy targets. Now it'll be 'struggle sessions' and people getting smoked behind the scenes.

A number of mods have gone mysteriously quiet since '22. I suspect there was a power struggle and they lost. No great loss, obviously, but hey.

Fheredin

I suspect that they're in for an influx soon.

I'm quite active over on Reddit and it is undergoing major shenanigans because of the API slactivist protests, which is leading Reddit to propose this absolutely bananas policy where users could vote moderators out. Presumably because they think most users don't support the protests and just want Reddit to work properly. This is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard; Reddit doesn't draw strong lines between membership in one community and another, so this enables whole new categories of brigading attacks. Far from stopping the protests; I think this will enable protesting because they will vote the mods out of any sub not yet participating.

So...there's a good chance of a mass Reddit exodus.

wmarshal

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 18, 2023, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 18, 2023, 11:10:40 AM
Doesn't seem like they are banning people like they used to, they seem to be relying more on infractions these days, guess they did the math and figured they are running out of people to ban.
I think they've bagged most of if not all the easy targets. Now it'll be 'struggle sessions' and people getting smoked behind the scenes.

A number of mods have gone mysteriously quiet since '22. I suspect there was a power struggle and they lost. No great loss, obviously, but hey.
Tanka has basically disappeared shortly after the ban he gave me for acknowledging that Kyle Rittenhouse had a claim to self-defense that turned out to be successful. My appeals to the admin were ignored, my attempts to point that out were declared "press conferencing". I think if I tried any further appeals the current mods would just use Tanka's absence as an excuse to further ignore.

It's difficult for me to see Tanka being on the losing side of a power struggle. I'd find more likely the absence to be that e ran into either personal health or legal troubles than somehow get purged.

Abbo1993

Can't say I give too much of a shit about what happens to them regardless, those psychos will start eating eachother at one point or another, I still don't understand why people keep posting on that place, there is literally 0 interesting content to be found and any aspiring creator would run the risk of killing their carreer before it started due to some non existent faux pas, the insane clout the fuckers seem to have is unbelievable to me.

Eirikrautha

Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 19, 2023, 10:19:43 AM
Can't say I give too much of a shit about what happens to them regardless, those psychos will start eating eachother at one point or another, I still don't understand why people keep posting on that place, there is literally 0 interesting content to be found and any aspiring creator would run the risk of killing their carreer before it started due to some non existent faux pas, the insane clout the fuckers seem to have is unbelievable to me.
They have no clout at all.  That's the illusion they are trying to maintain, but it's just an illusion.  None of the people I game with even know that website exists.  None of the kids in my RPG club know that place exists.  They have a tiny slice of the gaming public posting there, and as its utility declines, so will that number.

I'd say let the site die in obscurity, but it's so amusing watching their insanity...

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 19, 2023, 10:31:20 AM
Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 19, 2023, 10:19:43 AM
Can't say I give too much of a shit about what happens to them regardless, those psychos will start eating eachother at one point or another, I still don't understand why people keep posting on that place, there is literally 0 interesting content to be found and any aspiring creator would run the risk of killing their carreer before it started due to some non existent faux pas, the insane clout the fuckers seem to have is unbelievable to me.
They have no clout at all.  That's the illusion they are trying to maintain, but it's just an illusion.  None of the people I game with even know that website exists.  None of the kids in my RPG club know that place exists.  They have a tiny slice of the gaming public posting there, and as its utility declines, so will that number.

I'd say let the site die in obscurity, but it's so amusing watching their insanity...

It's also useful as a bulwark, an assylum where the loonies (most of them) hang with each other. Remember when Tumblr had it's exodus what happened to other sites?
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Ghostmaker

Quote from: Fheredin on June 19, 2023, 07:07:16 AM
I suspect that they're in for an influx soon.

I'm quite active over on Reddit and it is undergoing major shenanigans because of the API slactivist protests, which is leading Reddit to propose this absolutely bananas policy where users could vote moderators out. Presumably because they think most users don't support the protests and just want Reddit to work properly. This is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard; Reddit doesn't draw strong lines between membership in one community and another, so this enables whole new categories of brigading attacks. Far from stopping the protests; I think this will enable protesting because they will vote the mods out of any sub not yet participating.

So...there's a good chance of a mass Reddit exodus.
And the Reddit shitstorm's only exacerbated by Reddit admin removing mods from several high profile forums, replacing them with loyalists, and then removing the blackouts.

Hm. You may have a point.

Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 19, 2023, 10:19:43 AM
Can't say I give too much of a shit about what happens to them regardless, those psychos will start eating eachother at one point or another, I still don't understand why people keep posting on that place, there is literally 0 interesting content to be found and any aspiring creator would run the risk of killing their carreer before it started due to some non existent faux pas, the insane clout the fuckers seem to have is unbelievable to me.
Fair enough. Here's my problem: it's called RPGnet.

I do not like the idea of some newbie wandering in there and thinking this is the quality of person you get in the community.

RPGPundit

Quote from: Eirikrautha on June 19, 2023, 10:31:20 AM
Quote from: Abbo1993 on June 19, 2023, 10:19:43 AM
Can't say I give too much of a shit about what happens to them regardless, those psychos will start eating eachother at one point or another, I still don't understand why people keep posting on that place, there is literally 0 interesting content to be found and any aspiring creator would run the risk of killing their carreer before it started due to some non existent faux pas, the insane clout the fuckers seem to have is unbelievable to me.
They have no clout at all.  That's the illusion they are trying to maintain, but it's just an illusion.  None of the people I game with even know that website exists.  None of the kids in my RPG club know that place exists.  They have a tiny slice of the gaming public posting there, and as its utility declines, so will that number.

I'd say let the site die in obscurity, but it's so amusing watching their insanity...

No message forum still has any clout at all. All the clout to be found is on Youtube and Twitter.

But I'd daresay that in current year, theRPGsite still has more residual clout than rpgnet, because it's my forum and I still have clout, and its an OSR-heavy forum and the OSR has clout.  Even so, that's all just still residual to where the main action is (which again, is mostly Youtube).
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Ouch.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/mithril-maiden-infracted-permanent-ban.911428/

I... am not sure where to begin with this. This wasn't a threadjack. This was 'hey, I am looking for input' thread and they went right to the banhammer. Then again, I suspect staff has had it in for Mithril Maiden ever since they ate a three-month for 'problematic posting' and of course the usual 'you don't show proper respect for indigenous peoples'.

MM should've known better. If someone handed me a three month ban, I'd just fuck right off and leave. Why stay when they clearly don't agree with you and are willing to banhammer you over anything the slightest bit disturbing?

Aglondir

Quote from: TPBAppeals go to the admins, but will not be considered until six months have passed.

Six months? is that new?

wmarshal

Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 22, 2023, 03:39:44 PM
Ouch.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/mithril-maiden-infracted-permanent-ban.911428/

I... am not sure where to begin with this. This wasn't a threadjack. This was 'hey, I am looking for input' thread and they went right to the banhammer. Then again, I suspect staff has had it in for Mithril Maiden ever since they ate a three-month for 'problematic posting' and of course the usual 'you don't show proper respect for indigenous peoples'.

MM should've known better. If someone handed me a three month ban, I'd just fuck right off and leave. Why stay when they clearly don't agree with you and are willing to banhammer you over anything the slightest bit disturbing?
Her post seems a bit of a rambling run-on apology, and a bit rambling attempt to come up with a pastiche setting where nothing politically incorrect occurs (colonialism, slavery, etc.), which seems not too dissimilar from what Coyote Crow attempts. However, Coyote Crow gets Woke accolades for its efforts.

I also think it's self-serving that Third Kingdom simultaneously runs an rpg business, and is a mod at TBP where he gets to dictate what is "correct" game content.

David Johansen

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Quote from: Aglondir on June 22, 2023, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: TPBAppeals go to the admins, but will not be considered until six months have passed.

Six months? is that new?

huh...I got thirty days with a candid only one more strike warning...I wonder how that works.  I've been thinking about what to do.  Given that I've been outright blindsided by my last half a dozen bans, I thought I might decide what my last words should be.  Probably "D&D Sucks!" rather than some incoherent political interpretation of my views on metaphors in fiction.

I've seen a lot of cases where a ban is quickly followed by a permaban, often even before the ban expires.  I suspect that's due to an "appeal" sent to the administrator but it might also be off site commentary.  There's no transparency afterall.

But no, I think I'll just quietly clean out my profile, change my password and log out.  I don't see why I should let them celebrate another mighty victory for the cause.

*edit* oh okay I see, it's a permanent ban with six months before an appeal will be considered.  Interesting, perhaps that's what mine would look like too.  Ah well, I'm past the point of caring.  I'm just gonna permanently ban them premptively.  I guess they can ban us all.  Hard on the ad revenues though.
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Quote from: wmarshal on June 22, 2023, 05:36:05 PM
I also think it's self-serving that Third Kingdom simultaneously runs an rpg business, and is a mod at TBP where he gets to dictate what is "correct" game content.

Fuuuuuckkk!!! I never noticed they were a mod at TBP. I've actually given money to that shit weasel.
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Aglondir

Quote from: David Johansen on June 22, 2023, 07:42:21 PM
*edit* oh okay I see, it's a permanent ban with six months before an appeal will be considered.  Interesting, perhaps that's what mine would look like too.  Ah well, I'm past the point of caring.  I'm just gonna permanently ban them premptively.  I guess they can ban us all.  Hard on the ad revenues though.

I'm not sure if it's worse, since you have to wait 6 months for them to even consider an appeal; or if it is an improvement, since previously they just ignored appeals (LOL)

I've always get a chuckle out of the word "appeal." I imagine that 90% of the "appeals" are complaints about the mods.