RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Visitor Q]

It seems it's official TBP policy that Woke cult politics comes before family, and if you don't tow that line then you're probably a Nazi so we'll have to keep an eye on you Mr. Blarg101:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/blarg101-receives-a-🔴-warning-and-threadban.901006/

"You know who else had a family? Hitler!!"

Lol. Godwin's Law unironically applied.

[Trond]

It seems it's official TBP policy that Woke cult politics comes before family, and if you don't tow that line then you're probably a Nazi so we'll have to keep an eye on you Mr. Blarg101:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/blarg101-receives-a-🔴-warning-and-threadban.901006/

"You know who else had a family? Hitler!!"

....and I thought you were kidding!

The guy follows the topic of the thread to a T, and gives his best advice, but clearly there's only one point of view allowed.

[wmarshal]

It seems it's official TBP policy that Woke cult politics comes before family, and if you don't tow that line then you're probably a Nazi so we'll have to keep an eye on you Mr. Blarg101:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/blarg101-receives-a-🔴-warning-and-threadban.901006/

"You know who else had a family? Hitler!!"

....and I thought you were kidding!

The guy follows the topic of the thread to a T, and gives his best advice, but clearly there's only one point of view allowed.

I think the guy having a different POV than the mods is only a premise. I think the point is to encourage the separation of members from their families. It's what cults do.

[Trond]

I think the guy having a different POV than the mods is only a premise. I think the point is to encourage the separation of members from their families. It's what cults do.

BTW the OP starts off as a study in cringe, but gets worse from there.

Saying that Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan have a point is just too much, and needs to be ranted about online, and he thinks the the brother is the one who's "bamboozled".
But then it gets into Kool-aid territory:
"It feels like all that's left is to cut ties as much as I can."

WTF?!?

[Stephen Tannhauser]

Saying that Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan have a point is just too much, and needs to be ranted about online, and he thinks the the brother is the one who's "bamboozled".
But then it gets into Kool-aid territory: "It feels like all that's left is to cut ties as much as I can."

WTF?!?

The complete and total lack of self-awareness is also pretty amusing, in a by-amusing-I-mean-infuriating way. "My theory," says the OP, "is that people who fall into the hate trap go even deeper when confronted, however politely it's done, because they don't want to admit they're falling for the lies. They think they're too smart to be gaslit, to be bamboozled." -- without considering for even, as far as I can tell, a microsecond that this is just as accurate a description of his own mindset.

And only the threadbanned poster seems to come even reasonably close to wondering if perhaps, just perhaps, the family members being "cut off" feel just the same way about them, are looking at them with exactly the same condescending pity, are just as frustrated by their refusal to listen or consider the possibility of being wrong. If I tried to post in that thread and said, "I feel exactly the same way -- except I'm a conservative in a family of liberals" -- which happens to be true -- I'd be willing to wager nobody would grant a second's sympathy.

[Mistwell]

The Big Purple continues to be nuts. A read through of the infractions just demonstrates how arbitary they are. Though I do sense a slight weariness in the mods, almost as if they realise they are no longer part of a rpg forum but a full on
re-education camp.

I guess I'm not picking up on any weariness.

It seems it's official TBP policy that Woke cult politics comes before family, and if you don't tow that line then you're probably a Nazi so we'll have to keep an eye on you Mr. Blarg101:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/blarg101-receives-a-🔴-warning-and-threadban.901006/

Also progressive Woke politics has priority over gaming at all places and all times. The totalitarian Utopia being marched towards allows no reprieve:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/arthur_morgan-receives-a-💀-permanent-ban.901000/

Jesus those are particularly obscene. Heck, the second one they didn't even say WHAT the rant was about gender and identity. I think the mods assumed it was a woke rant being cut off, but the poster didn't say or imply anything about what side of that debate he was referencing. Which showed how insecure the moderator was.

[Visitor Q]

Saying that Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan have a point is just too much, and needs to be ranted about online, and he thinks the the brother is the one who's "bamboozled".
But then it gets into Kool-aid territory: "It feels like all that's left is to cut ties as much as I can."

WTF?!?

The complete and total lack of self-awareness is also pretty amusing, in a by-amusing-I-mean-infuriating way. "My theory," says the OP, "is that people who fall into the hate trap go even deeper when confronted, however politely it's done, because they don't want to admit they're falling for the lies. They think they're too smart to be gaslit, to be bamboozled." -- without considering for even, as far as I can tell, a microsecond that this is just as accurate a description of his own mindset.

And only the threadbanned poster seems to come even reasonably close to wondering if perhaps, just perhaps, the family members being "cut off" feel just the same way about them, are looking at them with exactly the same condescending pity, are just as frustrated by their refusal to listen or consider the possibility of being wrong. If I tried to post in that thread and said, "I feel exactly the same way -- except I'm a conservative in a family of liberals" -- which happens to be true -- I'd be willing to wager nobody would grant a second's sympathy.

I think if you said that you'd be sanctioned for something, perhaps even banned under their infamous Rule 0 (bad fit for the community).

You know it occurs to me that in every other gaming context Rule 0 means have fun.  On TBP it means you're banned...for reasons.    

[Trond]

Jesus those are particularly obscene. Heck, the second one they didn't even say WHAT the rant was about gender and identity. I think the mods assumed it was a woke rant being cut off, but the poster didn't say or imply anything about what side of that debate he was referencing. Which showed how insecure the moderator was.

You mean this?

"another member would not stop disrupting the game to rant about gender and identity politics."

I suppose it COULD be anti-identity politics rants that he's talking about, but they just assumed this guy was against THEIR politics. I guess most people are, these days.

[Mistwell]

Jesus those are particularly obscene. Heck, the second one they didn't even say WHAT the rant was about gender and identity. I think the mods assumed it was a woke rant being cut off, but the poster didn't say or imply anything about what side of that debate he was referencing. Which showed how insecure the moderator was.

You mean this?

"another member would not stop disrupting the game to rant about gender and identity politics."

I suppose it COULD be anti-identity politics rants that he's talking about, but they just assumed this guy was against THEIR politics. I guess most people are, these days.

Yeah. I mean, if you see a "rant about gender and identity politics" on The Big Purple, it's nearly 100% chance they are ranting about the GOP and Trump and anti-woke people. But in most places that rant is actually anti-identity-politics and anti-trans issues. And for that later view, you'd thing TBP would be pleased such a rant was cut off. It's just weird that they made an assumption about that statement. It's not even pro-woke to do that - it's just plain weird.

[Minotaurians]

The "family vs. ideology" stuff also shows how staggeringly ignorant those people are about what the Nazi regime was and how it worked.

Through institutions like the Hitler Youth and the Lebensborn, Hitler's Reich actively sought to break the traditional family bonds precisely because they were seen as a potential "competition" to the Führer's absolute and totalitarian authority.

Membership in the Hitler Youth was to become mandatory and its indoctrinated children were actively encouraged to spy upon their own parents and report them to the authorities at the slightest suspicion of disloyalty (or even doubt) toward the regime.

And in the long run, in their projected thousand years reich, the Lebensborn, where women were "welcomed" to "give a child to the Führer", would clearly have replaced the traditional nuclear family as the primary mean to perpetuate the so-called master race.

So yes, Nazism was actually a perfect example of a "party vs. family" situation where ideology and, well, (racial) identity were actively promoted as superior to traditional family bonds.

(Incidentally, this is also one of the key differences between German Nazi ideology and the fascistic doctrines of the French puppet government of Vichy, which had "travail, famille, patrie" as its official motto ("work, family, homeland"), as opposed to the "liberté, égalité, fraternité" motto of the French Republic - but in the end, such differences were only cosmetic salad dressing* and would have been "steamrollered" away in a matter of, say, one or two generations, if Germany had won the war)

(* what I mean here is that the various European brands of fascism (to use the term in its broadest sense) have always adapted their core ideology to the local culture, as shown by the example given about France's collabo régime or with Franquism in Spain, which had very strong ties to the Church or with Mussolini's italian Fascism, which exploited nostalgia for the Roman empire, etc. etc.)

[3catcircus]

I would love to see a trend of TikTok leftist ranters getting a punch in the mouth mid-rant. TBPers would be good candidates for this corrective beating.

[oggsmash]

  All cults must break the family first, and offer a "new family".

[I]

The "family vs. ideology" stuff also shows how staggeringly ignorant those people are about what the Nazi regime was and how it worked.

Through institutions like the Hitler Youth and the Lebensborn, Hitler's Reich actively sought to break the traditional family bonds precisely because they were seen as a potential "competition" to the Führer's absolute and totalitarian authority.

I was just about to make a similar post, but you beat me to it.  Breaking up traditional family bonds so that the younger generations would owe their loyalty to the State and the Party rather than their families was a deliberate policy of the Nazis.  SJWs are not only very ignorant of history, they typically project their own views and attitudes onto others.  If they were in control, they would pretty much embrace all of Hitler's methodologies.  They wouldn't target groups based on their ethnicity,* but the State and Party over all, the secret police, the complete lack of freedom of speech and of the press, the relentless propaganda glorifying their ideology -- all of those things they would consider OK if it was them in control.


*Well, white people perhaps, and maybe even Asians

[wmarshal]

The "family vs. ideology" stuff also shows how staggeringly ignorant those people are about what the Nazi regime was and how it worked.

Through institutions like the Hitler Youth and the Lebensborn, Hitler's Reich actively sought to break the traditional family bonds precisely because they were seen as a potential "competition" to the Führer's absolute and totalitarian authority.

I was just about to make a similar post, but you beat me to it.  Breaking up traditional family bonds so that the younger generations would owe their loyalty to the State and the Party rather than their families was a deliberate policy of the Nazis.  SJWs are not only very ignorant of history, they typically project their own views and attitudes onto others.  If they were in control, they would pretty much embrace all of Hitler's methodologies.  They wouldn't target groups based on their ethnicity,* but the State and Party over all, the secret police, the complete lack of freedom of speech and of the press, the relentless propaganda glorifying their ideology -- all of those things they would consider OK if it was them in control.


*Well, white people perhaps, and maybe even Asians

I don't buy that the SJWs behind this push to break family bonds are ignorant of history. This is deliberate and purposeful.

[I]

I don't buy that the SJWs behind this push to break family bonds are ignorant of history. This is deliberate and purposeful.

You may be right, I admit.  Isn't there an old saying that goes something like, "Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by simple incompetence"?  When it comes to SJWs, we should probably reverse that.