RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Mistwell]

We can agree to disagree on whether the guy who stroked out after getting his head beat in was murder or not. I don't think we can disagree that they were "let in" to the capital and just "wandered about and harmed no one." If Antifa had done what's shown in that video, you guys wouldn't dream of describing it that way.

Except that's exactly what happened.

There were some unruly but mostly peaceful protesters on one side of the building, who pushed some cops but generally behaved far better than most leftist rioters, because they didn't kill anyone, burn anything down, destroy any businesses, steal any TVs, or even come into the presence of a single lawmaker (except for AOC, who I believe has reported that they killed her at least a dozen times).

But on the other side of the building, the cops opened the barriers, waved people in, and are on video saying things like "I disagree with you, but I respect your right to protest". The protesters were invited in, wandered around, and stayed within the barriers.

And guess which group has been raided by the FBI, held in solitary confinement for over a year with trial, and forced into plea deals with threats of federal crimes with potential prison sentences of more than 20 years? Correct! Members of both groups! They're exactly the same!

Naw man, you're refusing to watch the video of what happened. Because that's what you do. They directly assault police with intent to injure them. No escaping that conclusion. They were not "unruly" they were attacking police with weapons. Just fucking watch the video Pat. Stop this ostrich stuff.

So you didn't read a word of what I said.

Not a word.

"There were some unruly but mostly peaceful protesters on one side of the building, who pushed some cops but generally behaved far better than most leftist rioters"

That is not a rational thought for anyone who watched what happened.

It absolutely is. They burned down no buildings. They weren't in the elevators, screaming in the face of legislators. They didn't kill anyone. They behaved far better than most leftist rioters.

Again, you've failed to mention what they did do, telling me you are not aware of what they did. Tell me Pat, what did they do with the big metal pipes? Easy answer if you watched the actual footage.

[Mistwell]

But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good.

This has already been addressed upthread.  Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it suddenly true.

Wait, are you arguing they didn't attack cops and beat them with poles and fire extinguishers on Jan 6?

Because damn, that's exactly what I am talking about when I say people here are refusing to watch the actual footage of what happened on Jan 6.

[Mistwell]

This is what you guys just described as "let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one. "

No rational human being can watch what happened and honestly pretend they were let into the building, and just wandered about and harmed no one.

   Though I agree with your statement here.....the statement they harmed no one is as true as you acting as if they murdered someone.

We can agree to disagree on whether the guy who stroked out after getting his head beat in was murder or not. I don't think we can disagree that they were "let in" to the capital and just "wandered about and harmed no one." If Antifa had done what's shown in that video, you guys wouldn't dream of describing it that way.

    Do not say "guys" as I did not describe it that way.  I just said you are full of shit about the murder angle (and the M.E. and apparently the DA agree with me ...https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-sicknick-capitol-riot-died-natural-causes/)  and you are.    You want to compare trespass and vandalism with murder and arson.

There is no question they directly intentionally injured police officers. There is no question they did a huge amount of damage. They attacked police. Many were sent to the hospital with real injuries from real violent attacks. There isn't any way to see what happened in those videos, and pretend it's not along the same level as antifa stuff. It's just plain bullshit to pretend otherwise and claim they were "let in" and just "wandered the halls without harming anyone". It's NOT just trespass and vandalism.

    But did not commit murder.  You keep obfuscating or pretending they did.  Did NOT commit murder.  Which Antifa did.  as well as arson.   I also want to revoke the person's card who built that gallows...do they not teach shop class anymore?

They beat a cop over the head with a fire extinguisher and pepper sprayed him in the face. He limped out of there, returned to his precinct, had multiple strokes and died. Coroner said beating him over the head and pepper spray was a contributing factor to his death but not the only factor. You can call that whatever you want, but I feel certain if Antifa does that you wouldn't be trying to minimize it like you're doing now.

[Shasarak]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.  But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good. And they whine about ashli babbit being killed but cheer about George Floyd's murder.

Fucking hypocritical scum.

It is even worse then that!

If black people were ever allowed to legally own guns in the US of A then there would be so much new gun legislation passed that it would make your head spin just watching it.

[Ratman_tf]

This is what you guys just described as "let into a public building, wandered about, and harmed no one. "

No rational human being can watch what happened and honestly pretend they were let into the building, and just wandered about and harmed no one.

   Though I agree with your statement here.....the statement they harmed no one is as true as you acting as if they murdered someone.

We can agree to disagree on whether the guy who stroked out after getting his head beat in was murder or not. I don't think we can disagree that they were "let in" to the capital and just "wandered about and harmed no one." If Antifa had done what's shown in that video, you guys wouldn't dream of describing it that way.

    Do not say "guys" as I did not describe it that way.  I just said you are full of shit about the murder angle (and the M.E. and apparently the DA agree with me ...https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brian-sicknick-capitol-riot-died-natural-causes/)  and you are.    You want to compare trespass and vandalism with murder and arson.

There is no question they directly intentionally injured police officers. There is no question they did a huge amount of damage. They attacked police. Many were sent to the hospital with real injuries from real violent attacks. There isn't any way to see what happened in those videos, and pretend it's not along the same level as antifa stuff. It's just plain bullshit to pretend otherwise and claim they were "let in" and just "wandered the halls without harming anyone". It's NOT just trespass and vandalism.

    But did not commit murder.  You keep obfuscating or pretending they did.  Did NOT commit murder.  Which Antifa did.  as well as arson.   I also want to revoke the person's card who built that gallows...do they not teach shop class anymore?

They beat a cop over the head with a fire extinguisher and pepper sprayed him in the face. He limped out of there, returned to his precinct, had multiple strokes and died. Coroner said beating him over the head and pepper spray was a contributing factor to his death but not the only factor. You can call that whatever you want, but I feel certain if Antifa does that you wouldn't be trying to minimize it like you're doing now.

You talking about Sicknick?

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/19/988876722/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-natural-causes-medical-examiner-ru

[Pat]

We can agree to disagree on whether the guy who stroked out after getting his head beat in was murder or not. I don't think we can disagree that they were "let in" to the capital and just "wandered about and harmed no one." If Antifa had done what's shown in that video, you guys wouldn't dream of describing it that way.

Except that's exactly what happened.

There were some unruly but mostly peaceful protesters on one side of the building, who pushed some cops but generally behaved far better than most leftist rioters, because they didn't kill anyone, burn anything down, destroy any businesses, steal any TVs, or even come into the presence of a single lawmaker (except for AOC, who I believe has reported that they killed her at least a dozen times).

But on the other side of the building, the cops opened the barriers, waved people in, and are on video saying things like "I disagree with you, but I respect your right to protest". The protesters were invited in, wandered around, and stayed within the barriers.

And guess which group has been raided by the FBI, held in solitary confinement for over a year with trial, and forced into plea deals with threats of federal crimes with potential prison sentences of more than 20 years? Correct! Members of both groups! They're exactly the same!

Naw man, you're refusing to watch the video of what happened. Because that's what you do. They directly assault police with intent to injure them. No escaping that conclusion. They were not "unruly" they were attacking police with weapons. Just fucking watch the video Pat. Stop this ostrich stuff.

So you didn't read a word of what I said.

Not a word.

"There were some unruly but mostly peaceful protesters on one side of the building, who pushed some cops but generally behaved far better than most leftist rioters"

That is not a rational thought for anyone who watched what happened.

It absolutely is. They burned down no buildings. They weren't in the elevators, screaming in the face of legislators. They didn't kill anyone. They behaved far better than most leftist rioters.

Again, you've failed to mention what they did do, telling me you are not aware of what they did. Tell me Pat, what did they do with the big metal pipes? Easy answer if you watched the actual footage.

Why don't you just address what I said, instead of making up these stupid little tests?

Go back. Read what I wrote. I literally said they were unruly. I contrasted them with the protesters on the other side of the building. I explicitly listed a handful of ways in which leftist rioters were worse, and they were very severe cases like arson and murder.

The claims you've made about me are false, and it's completely unreasonable for you to have drawn those conclusions. But I'm not going to clarify that further, because to do so would require I jump through these stupid and insulting hoops you've set up. I'm not a pet performing for your amusement. But this hoop you're demanding I jump through? It's utterly nonsensical based on what I've actually said.

I have very little tolerance for stupid games like this anymore, especially from someone like you who has acted so absolutely despicably toward me in the past.

[HappyDaze]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.  But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good. And they whine about ashli babbit being killed but cheer about George Floyd's murder.

Fucking hypocritical scum.

List George Floyd's redeeming qualities. All I've been able to find is that he was a criminal junkie.

He had family that loved him, which would be enough,  but there shouldn't need to be a reason not to kill someone.

[Battlemaster]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.  But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good. And they whine about ashli babbit being killed but cheer about George Floyd's murder.

Fucking hypocritical scum.

List George Floyd's redeeming qualities. All I've been able to find is that he was a criminal junkie.

He had family that loved him, which would be enough,  but there shouldn't need to be a reason not to kill someone.

Don't try reasoning with jeffy, he'll just call you a pedo. I see a lot of posts like his on hate sites I scan for warning about what his kind might be up to.

Also,  as eludes jeffy's childish shitlord mind, it took beqrky 9 minutes to murder Floyd, that was no accident.

[jeff37923]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.  But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good. And they whine about ashli babbit being killed but cheer about George Floyd's murder.

Fucking hypocritical scum.

List George Floyd's redeeming qualities. All I've been able to find is that he was a criminal junkie.

He had family that loved him, which would be enough,  but there shouldn't need to be a reason not to kill someone.

Don't try reasoning with jeffy, he'll just call you a pedo. I see a lot of posts like his on hate sites I scan for warning about what his kind might be up to.

Also,  as eludes jeffy's childish shitlord mind, it took beqrky 9 minutes to murder Floyd, that was no accident.

Good morning, groomer!

Since you couldn't list any of George Floyd's redeeming qualities, I guess that we can assume that he was exactly what he seemed. A criminal junkie. No loss by his death. Evolution in action.

[HappyDaze]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.  But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good. And they whine about ashli babbit being killed but cheer about George Floyd's murder.

Fucking hypocritical scum.

List George Floyd's redeeming qualities. All I've been able to find is that he was a criminal junkie.

He had family that loved him, which would be enough,  but there shouldn't need to be a reason not to kill someone.

Don't try reasoning with jeffy, he'll just call you a pedo. I see a lot of posts like his on hate sites I scan for warning about what his kind might be up to.

Also,  as eludes jeffy's childish shitlord mind, it took beqrky 9 minutes to murder Floyd, that was no accident.

Good morning, groomer!

Since you couldn't list any of George Floyd's redeeming qualities, I guess that we can assume that he was exactly what he seemed. A criminal junkie. No loss by his death. Evolution in action.

Well, Jeffy, since I can't think of any redeeming qualities of yours, I guess that means you might as well off yourself.

[Battlemaster]

So jeffy, a person has to have some redeeming trait to not be murdered? What are your traits that you feel make you worthy of life then? Calling people pedophiles? Shitlording? Being a shitsucking cumsickle? A neonazi? You sure sound like one when you talk about Floyd.

[3catcircus]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.  But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good. And they whine about ashli babbit being killed but cheer about George Floyd's murder.

Fucking hypocritical scum.

List George Floyd's redeeming qualities. All I've been able to find is that he was a criminal junkie.

"He wuz a goo' boy an' wuz tryna get hiz life aroun. He dindu nuffin wrong..." is what you'll hear from St. Floyd's supporters as they ignore the fact that he was supposed to be visiting his daughter but instead, was stopped with his drug dealer while high and trying to pass counterfeit money. 

Really want to judge the content of his character and of his family? How much of the $27M settlement that the Minneapolis taxpayers footed the bill for is in a trust fund for his kids?  How much of the GoFundMe set up for them has been wasted?  How much of the millions raised by his brother are set aside for his kids?  How many family and friends have come out of the woodwork for a piece of the pie?

[Battlemaster]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.  But when they attack cops,  beat them with poles and fire extinguishers it's all good. And they whine about ashli babbit being killed but cheer about George Floyd's murder.

Fucking hypocritical scum.

List George Floyd's redeeming qualities. All I've been able to find is that he was a criminal junkie.

"He wuz a goo' boy an' wuz tryna get hiz life aroun. He dindu nuffin wrong..."

Wow! That's s exactly the same words I see on white supremacist websites when I scan them for leads on what that kind is up to. Exactly the same words. ''Dindu'' is used pretty much only on hardcore racist sites. Thanks for proving what tge far 👉 really is.

[Ghostmaker]

Disregard simping for Fentanyl Floyd, acquire stupid TBP takes.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/dragox27-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-seven-day-ban-hostile-posting.898623/

Now, Dragox27 is coming in hot here, but it does seem bizarre to withhold actual monster construction rules for a game where the PCs hunt monsters. But I suspect someone got their fee-fees hurt, so off to the gulag he goes.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/kite474-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-group-attack.898624/

Anemic. I would like to note that half the time TBP mods don't even reprimand people for group attacks against the Emmanuel Goldsteins of the site.

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Also, Battlemaster, stop trying to polish the turd that was George Floyd's life. He was a drug addict and thug. If he'd quietly expired in his car, nobody would care (and honestly, it would've been better for everyone if he had).

[Trond]

If black protesters pushed police who were attacking them, they would have been gunned down En masse. The Trump crowd wants to see black protestors beaten down, gassed and shot.....

I can't believe people keep repeating this "if they were black" nonsense.

Did you see what actually went down in 2020? BLM protestors went apeshit and the police in many cities were just ordered to do nothing. It was insane.

Moreover, I've seen this in action myself, some of it even BEFORE George Floyd.  A black guy in a park here created a ruckus picking a fight with some Latinos selling hot dogs. When the police came, he shouted that there are cameras everywhere, and they stopped in their tracks. Another one threatened people in a restaurant here, and the owners didn't dare to call the police, because black. They just gave him money to make him leave.