RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Mistwell]

As I understand it, the issue with Macris is that moderators were accusing him of being a Nazi for his association with Milo Yiannopoulos, and he warned the admins that that was getting close to defamation. They decided to shut down all discussion of his work rather than reign in the mods--a move Macris found acceptable--and have been painting themselves as the victims ever since.

The law protects owners of message boards from libelous views of their users. However it does not protect owners of message boards (and in theory the proxy of the owners - admin and maybe mods) from libel they commit themselves. So yeah if the accusation was the owners, or their proxy in theory, were making the libelous statements then there could maybe have been a case there. It still could have been an iffy case but at least I can see the line of thinking.

[Ghostmaker]

Looks like the hate machine has fired up for Jamison Stone and Satine Phoenix.

Listen and believe, proles.

[The Spaniard]

Looks like the hate machine has fired up for Jamison Stone and Satine Phoenix.

Listen and believe, proles.

What happened with Satine?  I thought she was on their good list?

[Valatar]

A bunch of people came out of the woodwork to say that she and her husband were shits to people who worked for them, didn't pay for commissioned work, etc.

[Battlemaster]

ISTR a man in the rpg field was accused of.... Badwrong and erased from tbp.  Later I believe his wife was also silenced for staying with him not condemning him.

How fucking Hitler/Stalin/Mao like can you fucking get?

What next?  Banning people for not condemning whoever is the current person accused of badwrong? Banning people with the same last name as they might  be related to him/her/it?

[Shasarak]

A bunch of people came out of the woodwork to say that she and her husband were shits to people who worked for them, didn't pay for commissioned work, etc.

Sex work is real work Biggot!

[Ghostmaker]

ISTR a man in the rpg field was accused of.... Badwrong and erased from tbp.  Later I believe his wife was also silenced for staying with him not condemning him.

How fucking Hitler/Stalin/Mao like can you fucking get?

What next?  Banning people for not condemning whoever is the current person accused of badwrong? Banning people with the same last name as they might  be related to him/her/it?

You're referring to Matt McFarland. There were some interesting implications that TBP staff knew he was a sex pest and ran cover for him till it got too big to hide.

[Battlemaster]

ISTR a man in the rpg field was accused of.... Badwrong and erased from tbp.  Later I believe his wife was also silenced for staying with him not condemning him.

How fucking Hitler/Stalin/Mao like can you fucking get?

What next?  Banning people for not condemning whoever is the current person accused of badwrong? Banning people with the same last name as they might  be related to him/her/it?

You're referring to Matt McFarland. There were some interesting implications that TBP staff knew he was a sex pest and ran cover for him till it got too big to hide.

Thanks!  He was the mod they exiled I take it.  Was he ever tried/convicted of anything

[David Johansen]

Sex work is real work Biggot!

Not to worry, while the sex workers are considered holy, their clients are considered abominations.

Such are the contradictions of the left.

[wmarshal]

Sex work is real work Biggot!

Not to worry, while the sex workers are considered holy, their clients are considered abominations.

Such are the contradictions of the left.

Such contradictions are required when the Woke set the frame as being between sex worker and client. One has to be the villain so that they can be righteously angry at the disfavored party, and show their own virtue. If the sex worker and client were both viewed as normal this opportunity for the Some to prop themselves up wouldn't exist, and therefore wouldn't interest them. It's impossible for the Woke to view both as abnormal since that would be in contrast to an overall "normal society", and everyone knows the Woke can't process that concept successfully.

[RandyB]

Sex work is real work Biggot!

Not to worry, while the sex workers are considered holy, their clients are considered abominations.

Such are the contradictions of the left.

Soiled doves and the men who exploit them. Courtesy of the 19th century.

[wmarshal]

Sex work is real work Biggot!

Not to worry, while the sex workers are considered holy, their clients are considered abominations.

Such are the contradictions of the left.

Soiled doves and the men who exploit them. Courtesy of the 19th century.

I think it may go farther back than that. The Woke are essentially a form of neo-Puritans. Many on the left/progressive side have abandoned traditional religions, but they still have this desire for a strict moral order. They have created a secular religion. Now the Puritans wouldn't have any truck with the idea of soiled doves, but the basic urge for absolute moral judgement seems to be a significant driver of the Woke.

Traditional religions have spent centuries working out how to function, and smoothing out their rough edges, etc. However, any time a secular religion arises, such as how Marxism often functioned as a secular religion with its own versions of holy works and patron saints, it is all rough edges, and can lead to a lot of bloodshed. Revolutionary France had their Cult of Reason that went hand-in-hand with the Reign of Terror.

I hear about the Woke also being active in the UK, but not so much other countries. France seems to be resisting the Woke in particular. I wonder if that's because those other countries don't have the same history with the Puritans that England and English America had.

[Pat]

Sex work is real work Biggot!

Not to worry, while the sex workers are considered holy, their clients are considered abominations.

Such are the contradictions of the left.

Soiled doves and the men who exploit them. Courtesy of the 19th century.

I think it may go farther back than that. The Woke are essentially a form of neo-Puritans. Many on the left/progressive side have abandoned traditional religions, but they still have this desire for a strict moral order. They have created a secular religion. Now the Puritans wouldn't have any truck with the idea of soiled doves, but the basic urge for absolute moral judgement seems to be a significant driver of the Woke.

Traditional religions have spent centuries working out how to function, and smoothing out their rough edges, etc. However, any time a secular religion arises, such as how Marxism often functioned as a secular religion with its own versions of holy works and patron saints, it is all rough edges, and can lead to a lot of bloodshed. Revolutionary France had their Cult of Reason that went hand-in-hand with the Reign of Terror.

I hear about the Woke also being active in the UK, but not so much other countries. France seems to be resisting the Woke in particular. I wonder if that's because those other countries don't have the same history with the Puritans that England and English America had.

I don't think there's a direct link to the classical Puritans, though there may by something in the American psyche that finds the intolerant sexual morality of Puritanism and the Woke to be more appealing.

You might like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNJJmmCkqY
It's a discussion of how government has become the new God, and how that idea is basically synonymous with totalitarianism. Lots of historical quotes.

[BoxCrayonTales]

Sex work is real work Biggot!

Not to worry, while the sex workers are considered holy, their clients are considered abominations.

Such are the contradictions of the left.

Also, if you think "sex work is neither" (look it up) then you're an evil puritanical bigot.

[Skullking]

I hear about the Woke also being active in the UK.

Unfortunately yes.