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RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

Started by Ghostmaker, July 27, 2021, 08:10:46 AM

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Ghostmaker

Wham bam, in the van. Related to the Barker thread.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/bigjackbrass-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-thirty-day-ban-nazi-apologism.895139/

(And it may be increased because, you know. TBP.)

I would like to pull a money quote from Funkadelic's angry sniveling:

QuoteIn the unlikely event Barker meant the book as a joke, it doesn't matter. One cannot be a Nazi ironically. You cannot shake hands with the devil and say you're only kidding.

So something that was written in 1991 -- over thirty years ago -- is reason to cancel him now? A work of fiction?

Are they SURE they want to go down this road? Wait, what am I saying. Of course they do. It never occurs to them that they might find themselves on the wrong end of the knife at some point.

BRB, gonna go dox Funkadelic and see if he's got any wrongthink in his closet. LOL.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Animal Farm Forum
In the unlikely event Barker meant the book as a joke, it doesn't matter. One cannot be a Nazi ironically. You cannot shake hands with the devil and say you're only kidding.

1. I don't know if the Tekumel guy actually wrote the book, and I haven't read the book, and so I'm going to reserve judgement until further info happens along.

2. The moderation at RPG.net are insane, but we all knew that.

3.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

oggsmash

  When an educated white dude converts to Islam....well to me that should sort of remove any surprises with regard to the antisemitism. 

Ghostmaker

Barker's fantasies continue to be the gift that keeps on giving to ban happy mods on TBP.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/michael-cule-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-threadban.895170/
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/ahndrostalgan-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-threadban.895202/
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/ghosthead-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban-and-thread-ban.895260/
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/pelorus-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-and-threadban.895231/

The one that surprises me is ahndrostalgan's -- the point he was making is how shocking it is (to a liberal point of view, mind) that such an educated man would also be such an anti-Semite. Which is of course no surprise to us (since anti-Semitism is endemic to ivory tower academics), but what amuses me is how Dawgstar immediately flies off the handle at him.

Dawgstar had a busy day in any case:

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/schleiermacher-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning.895230/
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/wulfhelm-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-seven-day-ban-and-threadban.895258/

oggsmash

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 17, 2022, 04:03:56 PM
Wham bam, in the van. Related to the Barker thread.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/bigjackbrass-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-thirty-day-ban-nazi-apologism.895139/

(And it may be increased because, you know. TBP.)

I would like to pull a money quote from Funkadelic's angry sniveling:

QuoteIn the unlikely event Barker meant the book as a joke, it doesn't matter. One cannot be a Nazi ironically. You cannot shake hands with the devil and say you're only kidding.

So something that was written in 1991 -- over thirty years ago -- is reason to cancel him now? A work of fiction?

Are they SURE they want to go down this road? Wait, what am I saying. Of course they do. It never occurs to them that they might find themselves on the wrong end of the knife at some point.

BRB, gonna go dox Funkadelic and see if he's got any wrongthink in his closet. LOL.

  Odd the moderator also dead names Barker in those ban comments.  Pretty sure Phil was NOT his name when he wrote the nazi book, or really much of anything else for that matter.

Trond

Which "Nazi book" are they talking about?

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Trond on March 23, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
Which "Nazi book" are they talking about?
Probably the one that's triggering all the histrionics in the RPG forum here. People need to take a chill pill.

Also, lol: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/s-lash-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-normalizing-awful-behavior-condescending-towards-tekumel-fans.895348/

I love how pointing how life and people are complicated but there's always the chance for grace and redemption is 'condescending'. I don't know who 'Fred' is but I hope he dies of syphilis. Sheesh.

oggsmash

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 23, 2022, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Trond on March 23, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
Which "Nazi book" are they talking about?
Probably the one that's triggering all the histrionics in the RPG forum here. People need to take a chill pill.

Also, lol: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/s-lash-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-normalizing-awful-behavior-condescending-towards-tekumel-fans.895348/

I love how pointing how life and people are complicated but there's always the chance for grace and redemption is 'condescending'. I don't know who 'Fred' is but I hope he dies of syphilis. Sheesh.

   Well, he is slapping the founding fathers in there with nazis in his tirade on the matter.  That is not an accident I am sure.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 23, 2022, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Trond on March 23, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
Which "Nazi book" are they talking about?
Probably the one that's triggering all the histrionics in the RPG forum here. People need to take a chill pill.

Also, lol: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/s-lash-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-normalizing-awful-behavior-condescending-towards-tekumel-fans.895348/

I love how pointing how life and people are complicated but there's always the chance for grace and redemption is 'condescending'. I don't know who 'Fred' is but I hope he dies of syphilis. Sheesh.

   Well, he is slapping the founding fathers in there with nazis in his tirade on the matter.  That is not an accident I am sure.
As if they give a shit about that. No, I don't think that was what drove the ban.

No, it's the realization that life is terribly complicated with so many shades of gray that nailing down good and evil can be a struggle. And that good people can do bad things, and bad people can do good things, and you have to take it all into account.

This is all much too complex for the primitive proto-brains of TBP mods, and so BANHAMMER.

oggsmash

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 23, 2022, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 23, 2022, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Trond on March 23, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
Which "Nazi book" are they talking about?
Probably the one that's triggering all the histrionics in the RPG forum here. People need to take a chill pill.

Also, lol: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/s-lash-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-normalizing-awful-behavior-condescending-towards-tekumel-fans.895348/

I love how pointing how life and people are complicated but there's always the chance for grace and redemption is 'condescending'. I don't know who 'Fred' is but I hope he dies of syphilis. Sheesh.

   Well, he is slapping the founding fathers in there with nazis in his tirade on the matter.  That is not an accident I am sure.
As if they give a shit about that. No, I don't think that was what drove the ban.

No, it's the realization that life is terribly complicated with so many shades of gray that nailing down good and evil can be a struggle. And that good people can do bad things, and bad people can do good things, and you have to take it all into account.

This is all much too complex for the primitive proto-brains of TBP mods, and so BANHAMMER.

  I disagree, I think Fred VERY much wants to cancel the founding fathers as well as ban all the time.  I am referring to Fred having the tirade, not the poster.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 01:05:03 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 23, 2022, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on March 23, 2022, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 23, 2022, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: Trond on March 23, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
Which "Nazi book" are they talking about?
Probably the one that's triggering all the histrionics in the RPG forum here. People need to take a chill pill.

Also, lol: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/s-lash-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban-normalizing-awful-behavior-condescending-towards-tekumel-fans.895348/

I love how pointing how life and people are complicated but there's always the chance for grace and redemption is 'condescending'. I don't know who 'Fred' is but I hope he dies of syphilis. Sheesh.

   Well, he is slapping the founding fathers in there with nazis in his tirade on the matter.  That is not an accident I am sure.
As if they give a shit about that. No, I don't think that was what drove the ban.

No, it's the realization that life is terribly complicated with so many shades of gray that nailing down good and evil can be a struggle. And that good people can do bad things, and bad people can do good things, and you have to take it all into account.

This is all much too complex for the primitive proto-brains of TBP mods, and so BANHAMMER.

  I disagree, I think Fred VERY much wants to cancel the founding fathers as well as ban all the time.  I am referring to Fred having the tirade, not the poster.
Fair enough, I thought I'd missed something in the original post and just chalked it up to not having enough coffee.

They're all morons anyways.

oggsmash

Well, I could have been clearer as to who I meant, I generally try to think of the posters as *mostly* posting and the moderators as going on nutty rants.   But you are right, there is no nuance ever, or forgiveness or well anything.  These guys might want to check on just how close they have come to being the sort of dogmatics with commandments they seem to loathe.

Trond

#897
Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 23, 2022, 11:13:39 AM

Probably the one that's triggering all the histrionics in the RPG forum here. People need to take a chill pill.


Oh boy. I don't know the contents, but it may, perhaps, look like there is something to the use of the term "Nazi" this time:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3684902-serpent-s-walk


Ghostmaker

And I'll repeat what I said in that thread, too:

Great. What do you want me to do about it? 'Cause he's dead. Shall we burn his books? Exhume him and put him on trial?

See, here's the thing: I have become extremely uncaring of the 'nazi' label because it's been flung at everyone. We've gotten to that stupid meme about how 'Everyone I Don't Like Is Hitler'. And I just don't care any more.

This is what the left has sown. They've been screaming about imaginary nazis for so long, when one that actually might -be- one pops up... and again, he's fucking dead, so your options are limited... nobody. Fucking. Cares.

Trond

Quote from: Ghostmaker on March 24, 2022, 12:10:17 PM
And I'll repeat what I said in that thread, too:

Great. What do you want me to do about it?.....

Nothing.... but knowing about it doesn't hurt.