RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Willmark]

Nice try, stop again when you have something concrete. If you don't like people calling you out don't try couching it in "I guessed".

Oh, so you're telling me to become a mind reader, like so many idiots on this board? You're a special type of idiot, aren't you?

C'mon I'm sure you have better put downs than that.

[oggsmash]

Its no surprise that those on the left think that bad things can't happen. After all, the current ones grew up in comic book notions of batman punching out the bad guys; their lives appear to be that simplistic. That the gravy train will roll forever onward. Inflation, scarcity? Nope aint happening in their world view.

The old saying has never been more true:
"Strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make bad times, bad times make strong men."

Guess which stage we are at currently.

Let me guess, you listen to Tim Pool. Because that guy can't fucking shut up about the fourth turning. It's only slightly less annoying that his habit of constantly cutting off his guests.

But is he wrong?

It's standard apocalyptic doommongering, nothing more. It's basically the right's version of the "right side of history" from Marxist thought.

  Well, if there was ever a time to take up doommongering.....seems like an opportune period in history.

I may have been wrong 50 times before but this time, this time for sure we are all dooomed!

Thank goodness it will be the cleansing nuclear fire instead of the blue hair land whales that I previously predicted would be the DOOOM.

   Being a doommonger is like being a terrorist, you only have to get it right once to be called a success.

[Stephen Tannhauser]

Far more people are going to die off due to lack of sanitation and potable drinking water than marauding gangs Mad Max style. And the ass-clowns in major cities? Huge percentages of them would have no idea what to do if brown water started pouring out of the pipes or none at all.

Same in Gotham I suspect, haven't seen it but I'm guessing the streets are nice and tidy with garbage service and public utilities functioning?

Well, the streets are cosmetically filthy and rubble-strewn, and large chunks of the populace are shown living in squalor, but certainly there seems to be mysteriously just enough clean water available from somewhere to prevent large piles of thirst-slain corpses accumulating.

If memory serves the isolated part of the city was an island in the middle of an ostensibly freshwater river, so in theory water was there and they just left out all the boring parts of fetching and boiling it for dramatic narrative convenience. But it's like trying to figure out travel times in Game of Thrones -- better just not to bother about the issue and enjoy the story.

[Stephen Tannhauser]

Being a doommonger is like being a terrorist, you only have to get it right once to be called a success.

The problem is that nobody's around for long to appreciate it when you are.

[Mistwell]

  I wonder how some of those people are going to function when we hit a grid down, no food on shelves scenario in the next couple years.  Reality is going to hit some people like a freaking sledge hammer.

What conspiracy theory apocalyptic prediction nonsense is this?

  I guess you miss we are prodding a bear these days?  I have no need for a conspiracy, we are a few screw ups from WW3, inflation is bad, rising gas prices are about to make it worse, political division and tension in the country are not amazing right now, our power grid (and honestly internet) infrastructure are pretty old, do not have a whole lot of back up (one reactor scram can black out 4-8 states) and people sure are used to having reliable power. 

   Its not exactly a conspiracy the country, heck the world, could see a few really bad months.

I await your "only through Jesus can you be saved" spiel.

Yeah, I am prepared but remain fairly unconcerned about your apocalypse.

[Mistwell]

Well, let's discuss what will realistically happen and then figure how RPG.Net lunatics will manage.

I don't think we're going to see an apocalypse, at least not where I live in the US. Americans are pretty used to a silver spoon lifestyle powered by a whole lot of internationally sourced consumer goods. That's not going to fly much longer. But on the other hand, the US basically produces enough oil and food to see to its own needs in a tight fit. Gas and food will be in shortage, but if you have a gas can and a pantry, it's probably not going to be unmanageable.

The monetary problems are what worries me. Long term the US Dollar is going to have significant inflation, but in the nearer term US Dollars may actually appreciate because there's a lot of international demand for it to cover USD denominated debt. Then there's the potential of the Federal Reserve rolling out a nightmare-dystopian CBDC to replace the dollar.

How do I think this will play out? Most RPG.Net kool-aid drinkers are addicted to the political activist mindset. When they stop seeing Apple, Avocados, and Abercrombie in the stores, they will protest. And they will either get one of those new fancy microwave LRADs used on them or have their bank accounts frozen. That's when the reality will hit. How they will react from there, I really don't know.

To be clear, I think this is all nonsense. But I am going to laugh if my (upcoming) solar power with battery system plus hybrid-electric vehicle (and my victory garden) end up allowing me to live a more normal life than all you "solar sucks, electric vehicles are not ready" guys

  Solar power is great, the batteries are not.  For long periods of time with no power grid you will be in great shape IMO, as the batteries can last for 5 years with pretty constant use.  Solar panels have advanced a good deal past where batteries are, but they have come a long ways too.  As for the vehicle, if its not 4WD and fully electric, I think it won't be worth much if its SHTF.  Fully electric vehicle is better, hybrid to my understanding needs the combustion engine for various portions of transit.

Naw. I have a plug-in hybrid. It functions 100% electric until it runs out of battery power and only then shifts into combustion. It's enough to get me to work and back every day with no combustion. Only reason I ever fill up with gas (which is about once every other month) is because of longer drives I might take outside that commute.

Gas just hit $6/gallon around here by the way.

[Willmark]

^ and where does the electric come from to power said vehicle?

[Fheredin]

To be clear, I think this is all nonsense. But I am going to laugh if my (upcoming) solar power with battery system plus hybrid-electric vehicle (and my victory garden) end up allowing me to live a more normal life than all you "solar sucks, electric vehicles are not ready" guys

People make fun of it because solar may work for a private residence with enough space and battery storage but it can't do shit for large scale urban complexes due to scalability...and the EVs aren't ready is because current power grid can't support large scale recharging.  Hell, Cali still has brownouts, right...what happens when another 20% of the population is using EVs?

As far as your little personal fiefdom, not everyone has the money for a private residence, a solar/battery system, and an EV.  Better make sure you have some protection and your neighbors aren't covetous...

The large scale recharging is an underrated problem with EVs. Most people don't know it, but the way the power grid works is by matching production to demand in real time so the voltage of the network stays in the correct range. Generally, electric vehicles charging at home is no problem because it's at night when power demand is naturally low. But it really doesn't take much fast-charging during daylight hours to upset the grid.

Also, solar isn't necessarily what it's cracked up to be. Most solar panel systems work by selling power back onto the grid, which means that if the grid goes down...you're still out of power. If you want power during a brownout or a rolling blackout, you need power storage, and that's either in the form of a gas generator (loud), a home backup battery (many dollar signs) or a power station/ "solar generator." I use a power station as an uninterruptible power supply; it's pretty expensive for what it is, and that's ignoring the fact that solar panels are typically sold separately.

[oggsmash]

  I wonder how some of those people are going to function when we hit a grid down, no food on shelves scenario in the next couple years.  Reality is going to hit some people like a freaking sledge hammer.

What conspiracy theory apocalyptic prediction nonsense is this?

  I guess you miss we are prodding a bear these days?  I have no need for a conspiracy, we are a few screw ups from WW3, inflation is bad, rising gas prices are about to make it worse, political division and tension in the country are not amazing right now, our power grid (and honestly internet) infrastructure are pretty old, do not have a whole lot of back up (one reactor scram can black out 4-8 states) and people sure are used to having reliable power. 

   Its not exactly a conspiracy the country, heck the world, could see a few really bad months.

I await your "only through Jesus can you be saved" spiel.

Yeah, I am prepared but remain fairly unconcerned about your apocalypse.

  You pick any imaginary friend you like.  Your concerns have no effect on me, just like your concerns did not stop many other societal collapses through history.  History and reality just do not care about our concerns.  I am not calling for an apocalypse, I do not think the probability is high, and reality is, if we have a full on collapse you are fucked just from geography. Most everyone on here is. 

[Ghostmaker]

Stop talking to Mistwell and let's have a round of shooting at the fish in the barrel.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/eric-the-5b-receives-a-%F0%9F%94%B4-warning-threadban.894738/

Q99 being a retard, they didn't bother to post the reasoning in the infraction. But it's everything you'd expect:

"Eric the .5b, you have a habit of making posts that are juuussst on this side of the line of being redtextworthy, and this one crosses the line for being rude and aggressive for no real reason. For the time being do not post in this thread again, and I also recommend taking a real thought on your posting style. This is an official warning."

Context? Well, Eric and another user (Proteus) started slapfighting. Evidently Proteus went and cried to the mods first though.

LOL.

[oggsmash]

So he got in trouble for being suspected of wrong think.  It looks like they were looking at everything he posts and waiting, and he got close enough for them to slap him a little.  I think they are likely all on medication, and probably a lot of it.

[GeekyBugle]

^ and where does the electric come from to power said vehicle?

The electricity fairy off course!

Seriously tho, in most of the world? From burning fossil fuels. Because Solar & Wind are just pipe dreams and the ecoterrorists managed to stop/decomision nuclear.

[Willmark]

^ and where does the electric come from to power said vehicle?

The electricity fairy off course!

Seriously tho, in most of the world? From burning fossil fuels. Because Solar & Wind are just pipe dreams and the ecoterrorists managed to stop/decomision nuclear.

This guy gets it.

And any plan that doesn't include nuclear is a pipe dream right now.

As far as electric? Get me something that has the performance, weight, off road capabilities of my mid sized truck where I don't have to head home to charge? Sure

[Ghostmaker]

^ and where does the electric come from to power said vehicle?

The electricity fairy off course!

Seriously tho, in most of the world? From burning fossil fuels. Because Solar & Wind are just pipe dreams and the ecoterrorists managed to stop/decomision nuclear.

This guy gets it.

And any plan that doesn't include nuclear is a pipe dream right now.

As far as electric? Get me something that has the performance, weight, off road capabilities of my mid sized truck where I don't have to head home to charge? Sure

Task, conditions and standards for electric vehicles is racist or something

[GeekyBugle]

^ and where does the electric come from to power said vehicle?

The electricity fairy off course!

Seriously tho, in most of the world? From burning fossil fuels. Because Solar & Wind are just pipe dreams and the ecoterrorists managed to stop/decomision nuclear.

This guy gets it.

And any plan that doesn't include nuclear is a pipe dream right now.

As far as electric? Get me something that has the performance, weight, off road capabilities of my mid sized truck where I don't have to head home to charge? Sure

One of the reasons EVs are another pipe dream is energy density. We're at the limit off our actual battery technology. Plus your EV weights the same with the tank full or empty. Which means you'll never have the Tesla EV Trucks replacing the Diesel ones.

Add to it the recharging time and all the contamination in minning, manufacturing, transporting and disposing of the batteries and your "Net Zero" vehicle turns out to be WORST than my Gasoline powered one.