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RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

Started by Ghostmaker, July 27, 2021, 08:10:46 AM

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Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Pat on February 25, 2022, 02:00:42 PM
Socialists don't worship Mammon. But Moloch? Definitely.

  Look at 'woke capital' and tell me that the two formerly (supposedly) opposed fiends aren't now working openly hand in glove. :)

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on February 25, 2022, 01:57:50 PMCerulean Lion is a publicly identified Christian, which makes him unlikely to give proper respect to TBP's patrons Mammon, Asmodeus, and Moloch.

Agreed, but I have generally observed that he takes the "judge as you would be judged / fix the mote in one's own eye first" approach to controversial topics, which usually helps keep things cool. That's where he addresses such things directly at all, which I very rarely remember him doing. Maybe that has changed in the years I've been off the site, but it's still surprising.

(Out of curiosity, if Mammon is avarice and Moloch is libertinism, what's the sin/vice of Asmodeus?)
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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Armchair Gamer

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Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on February 25, 2022, 02:22:23 PM
(Out of curiosity, if Mammon is avarice and Moloch is libertinism, what's the sin/vice of Asmodeus?)

  Asmodeus is typically associated with lust and wrath; Moloch, with power and profit in return for certain sacrifices ...

Shasarak

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on February 25, 2022, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on February 25, 2022, 02:22:23 PM
(Out of curiosity, if Mammon is avarice and Moloch is libertinism, what's the sin/vice of Asmodeus?)

  Asmodeus is typically associated with lust and wrath; Moloch, with power and profit in return for certain sacrifices ...

I would have put Asmodeus down for Pride myself.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on February 25, 2022, 03:08:47 PMAsmodeus is typically associated with lust and wrath; Moloch, with power and profit in return for certain sacrifices ...

Ah, I see -- I'd sort of thought of Moloch as "lust" because the sacrifices typically ascribed to him are the ones made catastrophically common and easy by post-Sexual Revolution hookup culture (which I refer to by the term "libertinism" as a call-back to de Sade).

Mammon, Moloch and Asmodeus -- gotta remember that trifecta. Sort of encompasses much of Wokism generally, now I think about it.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on February 25, 2022, 03:24:51 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on February 25, 2022, 03:08:47 PMAsmodeus is typically associated with lust and wrath; Moloch, with power and profit in return for certain sacrifices ...

Ah, I see -- I'd sort of thought of Moloch as "lust" because the sacrifices typically ascribed to him are the ones made catastrophically common and easy by post-Sexual Revolution hookup culture (which I refer to by the term "libertinism" as a call-back to de Sade).

Mammon, Moloch and Asmodeus -- gotta remember that trifecta. Sort of encompasses much of Wokism generally, now I think about it.

  I often use Ashtoreth instead of Asmodeus, and it arguably works better if one accepts the theory that Moloch was Ashtoreth's consort in Canaanite religion. "Asmodeus" just comes to mind in the context of the RPG hobby. :)

Pat

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on February 25, 2022, 02:22:23 PM

(Out of curiosity, if Mammon is avarice and Moloch is libertinism, what's the sin/vice of Asmodeus?)
I've always considered Moloch more of a baby-eater, myself.

Pat

Quote from: Shasarak on February 25, 2022, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on February 25, 2022, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on February 25, 2022, 02:22:23 PM
(Out of curiosity, if Mammon is avarice and Moloch is libertinism, what's the sin/vice of Asmodeus?)

  Asmodeus is typically associated with lust and wrath; Moloch, with power and profit in return for certain sacrifices ...

I would have put Asmodeus down for Pride myself.
If we can trust the MM, he's more about evil mustaches.

Shasarak

Quote from: Pat on February 25, 2022, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on February 25, 2022, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on February 25, 2022, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on February 25, 2022, 02:22:23 PM
(Out of curiosity, if Mammon is avarice and Moloch is libertinism, what's the sin/vice of Asmodeus?)

  Asmodeus is typically associated with lust and wrath; Moloch, with power and profit in return for certain sacrifices ...

I would have put Asmodeus down for Pride myself.
If we can trust the MM, he's more about evil mustaches.

Asmodeus with his evil mustache and ass-less chaps.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Ghostmaker

You know, let it not be said that I don't give credit where it's due.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/npc-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-three-day-ban.894497/

Yeah, posting a gloomy 'Polish government sucks!' in a thread about the Polish equivalent of donuts? Asinine.

(Also, I'd be racially profiling if I was the Polish government too, to be blunt. Deal with it, you German commie bitchboi.)

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: Pat on February 25, 2022, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on February 25, 2022, 03:19:39 PMI would have put Asmodeus down for Pride myself.
If we can trust the MM, he's more about evil mustaches.

I've seen plenty of evil-looking mustaches at events dedicated to Pride.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser on March 02, 2022, 11:30:29 AM

I've seen plenty of evil-looking mustaches at events dedicated to Pride.

Plenty of assless chaps too, I'll warrant.

Armchair Gamer

Quote from: Shasarak on February 25, 2022, 03:19:39 PM
I would have put Asmodeus down for Pride myself.

  Are you thinking Biblical or D&D Asmodeus?

  (He shows up in the Book of Tobit, one of the deuterocanonical books, so not all Bibles will have it.)

Shasarak

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 02, 2022, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on February 25, 2022, 03:19:39 PM
I would have put Asmodeus down for Pride myself.

  Are you thinking Biblical or D&D Asmodeus?

  (He shows up in the Book of Tobit, one of the deuterocanonical books, so not all Bibles will have it.)

The guy who would rather rule in hell then serve in heaven, which is more Milton then either the Bible or DnD.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Stephen Tannhauser

Quote from: I on March 02, 2022, 11:58:38 AMPlenty of assless chaps too, I'll warrant.

Thankfully surprisingly few; the obligatory media photos of the event that become impossible to avoid in Toronto during June will usually exercise at least some discretion.
Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain

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