RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)

[Fheredin]

I'm just going to drop this because it explains so much of the insanity. Snowflakes are very easy to trigger, but it also helps if you have defense funding from the 1960s and 70s literally telling you how to push someone's buttons more effectively.

[David Johansen]

It's always nice when the targets self-identify.

That's one of the big advantages of free speech.  The enemy generally identifies themself.

[Visitor Q]

Rpg.net is an important resource for me for two reasons;

1. With regard to real life it is a fascinating case study and microcosm of what living in a an extreme left wing society would be like. If you assume that banned means killed or sent to a gulag then it is quite educational and chilling in equal measure.  Particularly interesting is the fact that many, many of those banned actually subscribe to extreme left wing ideology but got caught up in "wrong think" because they couldn't keep up with mercurial nature of that ideology (also likely that internal power struggles and ego trips play a part with the modding but I am not familiar enough with the internal dramas to identify this). This is a very similar phenomenon as occured in the very worst days of the Soviet Union and Stalin.

2. From a GMing perspective then without any irony I use rpg.net as a direct inspiration for how the Administratum and Commissariat acts in the WH40K games I run. To the extent that over the years I have used some modding ban reasons as the basis for handouts to players.

[Mistwell]

Rpg.net is an important resource for me for two reasons;

1. With regard to real life it is a fascinating case study and microcosm of what living in a an extreme left wing society would be like. If you assume that banned means killed or sent to a gulag then it is quite educational and chilling in equal measure.  Particularly interesting is the fact that many, many of those banned actually subscribe to extreme left wing ideology but got caught up in "wrong think" because they couldn't keep up with mercurial nature of that ideology (also likely that internal power struggles and ego trips play a part with the modding but I am not familiar enough with the internal dramas to identify this). This is a very similar phenomenon as occured in the very worst days of the Soviet Union and Stalin.

2. From a GMing perspective then without any irony I use rpg.net as a direct inspiration for how the Administratum and Commissariat acts in the WH40K games I run. To the extent that over the years I have used some modding ban reasons as the basis for handouts to players.

To me, there is a better comparison to the Maoist struggle sessions.

[Ghostmaker]

To the shock of absolutely no one at all, AstralRunner has joined the choir unspeakable on TBP.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%92%80-permanent-ban-bad-fit-for-rpgnet.893937/

I would like to note that Astralrunner's singular 'anti-semitic' post seems to consist of pointing out that it wasn't just Jews who perished in the Holocaust. However, the 'defending pedophilia' post doesn't seem to exist. Quelle surprise.

[oggsmash]

To the shock of absolutely no one at all, AstralRunner has joined the choir unspeakable on TBP.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%92%80-permanent-ban-bad-fit-for-rpgnet.893937/

I would like to note that Astralrunner's singular 'anti-semitic' post seems to consist of pointing out that it wasn't just Jews who perished in the Holocaust. However, the 'defending pedophilia' post doesn't seem to exist. Quelle surprise.

I still wonder where the white supremacists pass down their talking points to their avid (and apparently much more numerous than I imagined) followers.   How long before endorsing the benefits of being a vegetarian or being an animal lover are white supremacist talking points?

[Ghostmaker]

To the shock of absolutely no one at all, AstralRunner has joined the choir unspeakable on TBP.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%92%80-permanent-ban-bad-fit-for-rpgnet.893937/

I would like to note that Astralrunner's singular 'anti-semitic' post seems to consist of pointing out that it wasn't just Jews who perished in the Holocaust. However, the 'defending pedophilia' post doesn't seem to exist. Quelle surprise.

I still wonder where the white supremacists pass down their talking points to their avid (and apparently much more numerous than I imagined) followers.   How long before endorsing the benefits of being a vegetarian or being an animal lover are white supremacist talking points?

Why wait? I've literally seen people espousing that punctuality, delayed gratification, and work ethic are symbols of whiteness. Hell, the Smithsonian had an infographic up that they hurriedly yanked down when people pointed out that it was amazingly racist to suggest that such traits were 'white'. And I'm pretty sure there's been at least one article suggesting that owning pets is white supremacy.

[Willmark]

This one is weird:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-seven-day-ban-white-supremist-takes.893594/

Perhaps the mods there should read up on just what happened at Ruby Ridge, the rules of engagement the feds had, the results and the settling with the Weavers thereafter.

Any American should be shocked as to the force of the government applied wrongly. That  in and of itself should transcend all politics.

McVeigh and the Branch Dravidians are a separate matter.

[oggsmash]

To the shock of absolutely no one at all, AstralRunner has joined the choir unspeakable on TBP.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%92%80-permanent-ban-bad-fit-for-rpgnet.893937/

I would like to note that Astralrunner's singular 'anti-semitic' post seems to consist of pointing out that it wasn't just Jews who perished in the Holocaust. However, the 'defending pedophilia' post doesn't seem to exist. Quelle surprise.

I still wonder where the white supremacists pass down their talking points to their avid (and apparently much more numerous than I imagined) followers.   How long before endorsing the benefits of being a vegetarian or being an animal lover are white supremacist talking points?

Why wait? I've literally seen people espousing that punctuality, delayed gratification, and work ethic are symbols of whiteness. Hell, the Smithsonian had an infographic up that they hurriedly yanked down when people pointed out that it was amazingly racist to suggest that such traits were 'white'. And I'm pretty sure there's been at least one article suggesting that owning pets is white supremacy.

  I was actually going ahead and trotting out Godwin, given how certain failed Austrian painters didnt eat meat, and loved critters.

[ThatChrisGuy]

This one is weird:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-seven-day-ban-white-supremist-takes.893594/

Perhaps the mods there should read up on just what happened at Ruby Ridge, the rules of engagement the feds had, the results and the settling with the Weavers thereafter.

Any American should be shocked as to the force of the government applied wrongly. That  in and of itself should transcend all politics.

McVeigh and the Branch Dravidians are a separate matter.

Never mind the blatant attempt at entrapment that cause the whole fooferaw in the first place.

(If someone ever asks you to borrow a hacksaw, just say no.)

[Ghostmaker]

And it's getting harder and harder to fool the proles.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/threading-the-needle-for-bad-shit-going-down-is-exhausting.893916/

I admit, I feel pity for hippokrene here. They've discovered that the vague idiot rules TBP runs on are perpetually in flux, and can be used to justify any kind of stupid action by the mods.

[oggsmash]

  It can be hard to read minds, fee fees, and any hormonal/chemical imbalances mods might be feeling due to a change in their medications that day from blockers or other medications to regulate their brain chemistry.   Never understood why they opened an off topic/political forum if you can be so quickly banned for talking about the wrong topic on a forum created for the "wrong" topics.

[I]

The only people at that site I feel the slightest sympathy for are brand-new posters who get banned, because maybe they didn't know what they were getting into.  Anybody who frequents those forums for a month or more knows exactly what the place is like, so they should be expecting to be banned at any time for any reason.  I think I lasted for two posts there back in 2001.  I probably got banned for my last post, but I don't know, I simply quit posting and never went back.  The crowd there coming down on me like a ton of bricks for DARING to express sympathy for the 9/11 victims and disapproval of the Islamic terrorists who carried out the attacks convinced me that the site was nowhere I wanted to spend my free time.  I got called everything from a "Nazi" ( but of course) to an "Israeli agent" and "Zionist."  While it's true that the mods really went nuts around 2015, the place was awful long before that.

[Fergurg]

This one is weird:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-seven-day-ban-white-supremist-takes.893594/

Perhaps the mods there should read up on just what happened at Ruby Ridge, the rules of engagement the feds had, the results and the settling with the Weavers thereafter.

Any American should be shocked as to the force of the government applied wrongly. That  in and of itself should transcend all politics.

McVeigh and the Branch Dravidians are a separate matter.

And therein lies the flaw. To them, nothing trumps politics.

[Ghostmaker]

This one is weird:
https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/astralrunner-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-seven-day-ban-white-supremist-takes.893594/

Perhaps the mods there should read up on just what happened at Ruby Ridge, the rules of engagement the feds had, the results and the settling with the Weavers thereafter.

Any American should be shocked as to the force of the government applied wrongly. That  in and of itself should transcend all politics.

McVeigh and the Branch Dravidians are a separate matter.

And therein lies the flaw. To them, nothing trumps politics.

More to the point: nothing trumps their politics.

There's a saying I ran across that is quite appropriate: your speech is violence, but their violence is speech. Anything they do is automatically good, because they are the good guys, and if you disagree you are wrong and possibly a bad person.