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[GeekyBugle]

"We're here! We're queer! We're coming for your children!" chanted during Drag March in New York Pride Celebration

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-drag-marchers-chant-were-coming-your-children-during-pride-event


Harmless joke or telegraphing a punch?

I'm sure it's just a joke....

https://twitter.com/Margueritestern/status/1672722625628364800

[jeff37923]

Just tidying up here....

I love how you quote my post but deliberately ignore the distinction I made in that same post between female impersonators and drag queens.

"Victor/Victoria" is set in a theater of professional entertainers who dress in elaborate costumes to perform as members of the opposite sex. Here's Robert Preston from "Victor/Victoria":



These are professional entertainers in elaborate opposite-sex costumes. Your distinction earlier was:

In this context, cross dressing is when a person dresses and adopts the typical mannerisms of the opposite sex. Usually to "pass" as a member of the opposite sex. Either an actor plays a role of the opposite sex, or a character disguises themselves as a member of the opposite sex as a part of a story. This is your Mulans, Mrs. Doubtfires, and Bosom Buddies, for some examples.

Drag is the exaggeration of sexual dress and mannerisms, usually as part of a stage performance where the aim of the performance is to push the boundaries of acceptable behavior.

He's Ratman_tf. I'm jeff37923.

"Victor/Victoria" is set in a theater of professional entertainers who dress in elaborate costumes to perform as members of the opposite sex. Here's Robert Preston from "Victor/Victoria":

Did you notice that, in the movie, there were no children in the audience?

But it's still a PG-rated movie, so the movie showing that number is intended for older children.

Still, there are enough complications with Victor/Victoria that Kinky Boots is a better example of a PG film about drag (see my edited to add in the post above).

So why did you use Victor/Victoria as an example in the first place?

[SHARK]

  If you want to have a satanic church where men married to one another baptize their "child" and everyone is happy about that knock yourself out.  Just keep your twisted morality out of schools and away from other people's kids and we can all play nice.  Keep pushing boys in the girls room and trannies entertaining kids and some people are going to get hurt.  Permanently.

Greetings!

That's right, my friend!

Stay cool, Stay Strapped, and Stay Dangerous.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[jhkim]

He's Ratman_tf. I'm jeff37923.

Whoops. Sorry about that. My bad. I'll go over what you said below.

Still, there are enough complications with Victor/Victoria that Kinky Boots is a better example of a PG film about drag (see my edited to add in the post above).

So why did you use Victor/Victoria as an example in the first place?

To review, how I used it as an example:

I feel like I've been saying the same thing for a while, and it isn't complicated.

• Showing X-rated or R-rated sexual material to children - like the Caba Baba Rave - is wrong, should be banned and punished, regardless of drag or not.
• PG material like "Victor/Victoria" or the "Kinky Boots" musical should stay PG.
• The standards of what is too sexualized should be the same for LGBT and straight for all ages. Substituting a born-female performer shouldn't make a banned drag show permissible.

As for why Victor/Victoria -- it's a PG romantic comedy centered on drag performance. Yes, I say "drag" because that's what the movie itself says -- Robert Preston's line "Remember, you're a drag queen." To review the plot:

• Julie Andrews is a down-on-her-luck singer who is taken in by gay nightclub owner Robert Preston.
• After she's mistaken for a man when wearing his clothes, he hits on the scheme for her to pretend to be a drag queen. (He uses the terms "female impersonator" and "drag queen" both.)
• Gangster James Gardner is attracted to her when she performs as a drag queen, and pursues her.
• She keeps up the ruse for a while, but they eventually sleep together. Gardner's bodyguard walks in on them in bed together in the morning and thinks Gardner is gay. He it impressed and admits that he is also gay. ("if a guy like you has got the guts to admit he's gay...so can I.")
• Gardner's jealous girlfriend is on the verge of discovering as well and gets a doctor sent to confirm, and in the end Andrews quits the act and Preston takes it on - playing it for comedy.

Again, Robert Preston in the final number:

You did notice that Victor/Victoria was about female impersonators performing tame unsexualized choreographed dance numbers in front of adults and thus is acceptable while Drag shows which we find unacceptable have been overtly sexual and performed in front of kids?

Claiming that it's only for adults is talking about fictional characters. The movie was rated PG, and it was also adapted into a 1995 musical stage production that children could view. So it has been considered acceptable for older children.

Regarding the bolded part, that's exactly what I have been saying. It's PG and it's not inappropriate for older kids.

[jeff37923]

You did notice that Victor/Victoria was about female impersonators performing tame unsexualized choreographed dance numbers in front of adults and thus is acceptable while Drag shows which we find unacceptable have been overtly sexual and performed in front of kids?

Claiming that it's only for adults is talking about fictional characters. The movie was rated PG, and it was also adapted into a 1995 musical stage production that children could view. So it has been considered acceptable for older children.

Regarding the bolded part, that's exactly what I have been saying. It's PG and it's not inappropriate for older kids.

See, this is you being deliberately obtuse. You know that I was referring to the female impersonator shows being performed in front of adults audiences and not children because you bolded the section right before where I pointed that out. You even quoted it.

It's like you aren't even trying to hide your intellectual dishonesty anymore.

[Elfdart]

Hey retard, let me explain some things very slowly to you, maybe then you might stand a chance to understand:

Drag =/= "Trannies"
Queers =/= LGBT

Maybe you should pass this revelation on to the other fag-bashers in this thread.

From what the Queers say and push maybe some of them deserve some legal bashing (as in throw them in jail for pedos and dog fuckers).

Why single out queers who do this? Anyone who molests kids or animals should be locked up.

I love to remind you that Che, and every other commie scum murdered way more gays than the other type of socialists (Nazis and Fascists).

Citation needed. No, PragerU doesn't count.

Given that I'm not (and never was) a socialist or commie scum of ANY type it's YOU who is closer ideologically to the WWII baddies you love to compare everybody else. Fuck you idiots even push for Völkisch equality unironically.

Socialists and commies were the enemies of the Axis, and did most of the fighting against Hitler and Mussolini. Like most closet-case fascists, you'll never forgive them for it. That's why you have to lie and regurgitate Nazi propaganda and Holocaust denial. You might have pulled off being more coy about being a fascist, but your demented hatred of fags made your true sympathies leap to attention like Dr Strangelove's arm.

While the commie scum all over the world was happily murdering gays you idiots were applauding them.

Feel free to cite examples. No, pro-Nazi websites don't count.

[SHARK]

You did notice that Victor/Victoria was about female impersonators performing tame unsexualized choreographed dance numbers in front of adults and thus is acceptable while Drag shows which we find unacceptable have been overtly sexual and performed in front of kids?

Claiming that it's only for adults is talking about fictional characters. The movie was rated PG, and it was also adapted into a 1995 musical stage production that children could view. So it has been considered acceptable for older children.

Regarding the bolded part, that's exactly what I have been saying. It's PG and it's not inappropriate for older kids.

See, this is you being deliberately obtuse. You know that I was referring to the female impersonator shows being performed in front of adults audiences and not children because you bolded the section right before where I pointed that out. You even quoted it.

It's like you aren't even trying to hide your intellectual dishonesty anymore.

Greetings!

Yeah, Jeff! I'm still trying to understand what the nuances and "movie critic"-like. reviews of films or musicals of some stupid "Kinky Boots" has fuck-all to do with CHILDREN being sent to PUBLIC SCHOOLS, and supervised by minions that are PAID BY TAXPAYERS money so that they can fucking ignore and insult parents by brainfucking their kids with tranny groomers being brought in to put on Drag Shows and fucking degenerate Drag Queen Story Hours?

They are entirely unrelated topics, like apples and oranges.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[jhkim]

You did notice that Victor/Victoria was about female impersonators performing tame unsexualized choreographed dance numbers in front of adults and thus is acceptable while Drag shows which we find unacceptable have been overtly sexual and performed in front of kids?

Claiming that it's only for adults is talking about fictional characters. The movie was rated PG, and it was also adapted into a 1995 musical stage production that children could view. So it has been considered acceptable for older children.

Regarding the bolded part, that's exactly what I have been saying. It's PG and it's not inappropriate for older kids.

See, this is you being deliberately obtuse. You know that I was referring to the female impersonator shows being performed in front of adults audiences and not children because you bolded the section right before where I pointed that out. You even quoted it.

I just replied about your claim of adult audience. Victor/Victoria was rated PG and thus watched by plenty of children. Having a fictional audience inside the fiction of the show (i.e. 1930s Paris nightclub) doesn't change that real children were in the real audience watching the performance (i.e. 1980s American movie theater).

I have stated many times that in my opinion, Victor/Victoria is reasonably rated at PG, and I think it should remain that way. Do you agree with this?

[SHARK]

Greetings!

The idea that the Communists or Sociaists did more to defeat the Nazis, the Fascists--themselves also largely Sociaists--is Commie-Boo Kool-Aid propaganda.

This video discussing history of World War II demonstrates that entire ideological fallacy quite thoroughly.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[jhkim]

Some posters have been characterizing drag story hours as luring unattended young children off the street, but overwhelmingly what I see in my searches of the topic is parents choosing to bring their kids to such events.

Again, I don't claim to be an expert on drag events. To the extent that organizers violate these rules, they should be banned and prosecuted. If they stay within them, though, it should be legal.

No, we're talking about "queer" degenerates grooming "teaching" other peoples kids "queer culture".

Regarding public schools...

Again, I can't speak for all schools in the country. But when my son went to elementary school, no one was allowed to participate in any after-school events or field trips without parental permission. I was very involved my son's education, and I never saw anything like this.

GeekyBugle - can you cite events for elementary-school-age children where kids were lured into participating in drag events without parental consent?

[GeekyBugle]

Some posters have been characterizing drag story hours as luring unattended young children off the street, but overwhelmingly what I see in my searches of the topic is parents choosing to bring their kids to such events.

Again, I don't claim to be an expert on drag events. To the extent that organizers violate these rules, they should be banned and prosecuted. If they stay within them, though, it should be legal.

No, we're talking about "queer" degenerates grooming "teaching" other peoples kids "queer culture".

Regarding public schools...

Again, I can't speak for all schools in the country. But when my son went to elementary school, no one was allowed to participate in any after-school events or field trips without parental permission. I was very involved my son's education, and I never saw anything like this.

GeekyBugle - can you cite events for elementary-school-age children where kids were lured into participating in drag events without parental consent?

You mean besides the Drag Queen Story Hour?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/drag-queen-story-hour-graders-philadelphia-school-outrages-parents

https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-elementary-schools-brings-drag-performance-for-student-pride-celebration

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/elementary-school-cancels-after-school-pride-fest-event-over-social-media-threats-drag-queen-story-hour-self-defense-nail-polish-gender-affirming-care-transgender-lgbtq-plus-rights-portland-police-public-safety-health-terrorism

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/06/06/tdsb-turns-the-page-on-drag-queen-storytime-event-policy-after-parent-outcry.html

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-elementary-kids-get-surprise-drag-queen-performance-talent-show/1700057/

https://www.thepublica.com/1718-2/

I wonder why you're limiting it to elementary school?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/drag-queen-straddles-girl-north-carolina-public-school-video-shows

Dude, you really need to learn not to ask a question unless you already know the answer.

[jeff37923]

You did notice that Victor/Victoria was about female impersonators performing tame unsexualized choreographed dance numbers in front of adults and thus is acceptable while Drag shows which we find unacceptable have been overtly sexual and performed in front of kids?

Claiming that it's only for adults is talking about fictional characters. The movie was rated PG, and it was also adapted into a 1995 musical stage production that children could view. So it has been considered acceptable for older children.

Regarding the bolded part, that's exactly what I have been saying. It's PG and it's not inappropriate for older kids.

See, this is you being deliberately obtuse. You know that I was referring to the female impersonator shows being performed in front of adults audiences and not children because you bolded the section right before where I pointed that out. You even quoted it.

I just replied about your claim of adult audience. Victor/Victoria was rated PG and thus watched by plenty of children. Having a fictional audience inside the fiction of the show (i.e. 1930s Paris nightclub) doesn't change that real children were in the real audience watching the performance (i.e. 1980s American movie theater).

I have stated many times that in my opinion, Victor/Victoria is reasonably rated at PG, and I think it should remain that way. Do you agree with this?

You know, that trick didn't work before so I don't see why you think doubling down is going to work now.

[Ratman_tf]

"We're here! We're queer! We're coming for your children!" chanted during Drag March in New York Pride Celebration

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-drag-marchers-chant-were-coming-your-children-during-pride-event


Harmless joke or telegraphing a punch?

I think it's an intentional provocation. They know what it sounds like, and they don't care, because they're assholes.

[jeff37923]

"We're here! We're queer! We're coming for your children!" chanted during Drag March in New York Pride Celebration

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-drag-marchers-chant-were-coming-your-children-during-pride-event


Harmless joke or telegraphing a punch?

I think it's an intentional provocation. They know what it sounds like, and they don't care, because they're assholes.

Which is indicative of the problem with TQ+ in general to me. Gender dysphoria is a mental disease that can lead to self-mutilation and drag queens specialize in being drama queens, so you get crazy attention seeking behavior out of that TQ+ segment of the LGBTQ+, often to their detriment.

[Ghostmaker]

Greetings!

The idea that the Communists or Sociaists did more to defeat the Nazis, the Fascists--themselves also largely Sociaists--is Commie-Boo Kool-Aid propaganda.

This video discussing history of World War II demonstrates that entire ideological fallacy quite thoroughly.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

If by 'defeated the Nazis' they mean 'acted as bullet catchers because Stalin was a strategic retard', I guess it fits.

But the hilarious assertion that socialists were somehow ideologically opposed to the Nazis is pure fiction. It was two gangs, duking it over turf; neither was the good guy.

I often remark on the 30's and the rise of the NSDAP. One of the major factors was Antifa (a communist subsidiary) fighting it out with the Sturmabteilung (Brownshirts) in the streets. And Antifa made such asses of themselves that they made the NSDAP look good.