LIVE COVERAGE of Rally for President Trump in DC! 01/06/2021

[Shasarak]

If Dominion had it that easy, they would be going for legitimate settlement and not the 'intimidation' amount.  The problem they have is that there are records of the 'fraud' types that they have been accused of.  The real question is what comes up in discovery...and the security issues will be a major part of that.

Seeking much higher damages than you are likely to get is a tried and true legal strategy, and not necessarily an attempt at "intimidation". Besides, all Powell and Fruity Giuliani have to do is show the "ironclad" evidence, and I'm sure they'll be completely vindicated lmao.

Yes...and all they have to do is show that the Dominion software altered/miscounted votes.

Moonsweeper - can you specify what the evidence is that Dominion software altered or miscounted votes? The claim that I'm familiar with is a report on 37 out of 14,000 votes in Ware County, Georgia -- but that's misrepresented. There was no forensic analysis of the machines - there was just a difference between a hand count and the machine-based count, which was almost certainly human error rather than software.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9773239691

There have been claims about vulnerabilities - but often the claims are based on an unreasonable standard that the machines be completely hack-proof. If one assumes that the election officials running the machine are intent on fraud, then hacking the machine is unnecessary - they could just change the paper ballots instead. The real standard is - are elections using Dominion servers more vulnerable than using ES&S machines, hand count, or other methods?

I thought that the court already ruled that it was not necessary to audit the vote count?

[KingCheops]

Lefty left-brained people think there's a good outcome for them in this lawsuit

Useful idiots don't usually realize their error until they've been dragged out the to Killing Fields.

It's a holiday in Cambodia!

[HappyDaze]

Lefty left-brained people think there's a good outcome for them in this lawsuit

Useful idiots don't usually realize their error until they've been dragged out the to Killing Fields.

It's a holiday in Cambodia!

Let's get modern and say that useful idiots don't realize their error until they're illegally storming the Capital.

[EOTB]

another legal situation some mistake as having a useful and beneficial conclusion in the world of 2021

[jhkim]

Moonsweeper - can you specify what the evidence is that Dominion software altered or miscounted votes? The claim that I'm familiar with is a report on 37 out of 14,000 votes in Ware County, Georgia -- but that's misrepresented. There was no forensic analysis of the machines - there was just a difference between a hand count and the machine-based count, which was almost certainly human error rather than software.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9773239691

There have been claims about vulnerabilities - but often the claims are based on an unreasonable standard that the machines be completely hack-proof. If one assumes that the election officials running the machine are intent on fraud, then hacking the machine is unnecessary - they could just change the paper ballots instead. The real standard is - are elections using Dominion servers more vulnerable than using ES&S machines, hand count, or other methods?

I thought that the court already ruled that it was not necessary to audit the vote count?

In Georgia? It's required by law that in a close vote - like for President in 2020 - that there be two complete recounts, including some hand recounts to confirm results. (They also revamped their voting system to require paper ballots.) Those were completed in early December.

It's because of a hand recount that the Ware County result was flagged for the 37 out of roughly 14,000 vote difference between the original count and the hand recount. But that difference could easily have come from a human error in either machine use or in the hand recount. There's no inherent reason to think that it came from software. In some places, it was falsely reported that this was a specific test of the voting machine software where they put in exactly equal numbers of votes for Biden and Trump. There were not equal votes - Trump won the county by a large margin - and it wasn't a specific test of the software.

Specific tests were done a long time ago when the machines were vetted for use in Georgia, but they weren't done in Ware County in 2020.

[EOTB]

Recounts as practiced involve the same people as did the original count.  They are useful to double-check a process followed by a group of unbiased people attempting to determine a count.

But they're not designed to address the possibility of intentional fraud by a group of counters.

Yes, I understand you dismiss that possibility as impractical to achieve.  But to say "recounts" in response to someone suspicious of intentional fraud is impractical to resolve that suspicion

[HappyDaze]

another legal situation some mistake as having a useful and beneficial conclusion in the world of 2021

I don't think it had a useful or beneficial conclusion, but it did show just how stupid some people really are.

[Shasarak]

Let's get modern and say that useful idiots don't realize their error until they're illegally storming the Capital.

Who does not get the necessary permits to legally storm the capitol now a days?

I bet they never even had the correct Health and Safety staff.

[EOTB]

Ideas can be stupid; strategies can be stupid; people not nearly so much.

The problem with categorizing other people as stupid is that the hearers learn much more about the speaker than the object

[DocJones]

Who does not get the necessary permits to legally storm the capitol now a days?

I had thought the last insurrection was when  the Senate was stormed by a thousand outraged womyns during the Kavanaugh hearings.
And wasn't there an attempted insurrection on August 27th 2020 involving the Whitehouse.

[Ghostmaker]

Who does not get the necessary permits to legally storm the capitol now a days?

I had thought the last insurrection was when  the Senate was stormed by a thousand outraged womyns during the Kavanaugh hearings.
And wasn't there an attempted insurrection on August 27th 2020 involving the Whitehouse.

Ah, but that's different, DocJones. That was targeting an evil rapist enabled by other evil rapists and was therefore a-ok!

In other words, 'It's fine when we do it'.

I find the perpetual pearl clutching over the 1/6 riot/protest/hubbaloo rather disingenuous to put it mildly. Months, hell, years of unrest punctuated with fires, actual riots, 'autonomous zones', and police being handcuffed figuratively, and now they get their knickers in a twist.

Considering the poor governance our so-called federal masters have shown, perhaps they should be afraid.

[shuddemell]

Let us not forget the left wing motivated bombing of the US Capitol in 1983... historical memory is extremely short these days. Here's a summary of attacks on the capitol...

https://www.history.com/news/us-capitol-building-violence-fires

[oggsmash]

Lefty left-brained people think there's a good outcome for them in this lawsuit

Useful idiots don't usually realize their error until they've been dragged out the to Killing Fields.

It's a holiday in Cambodia!

Let's get modern and say that useful idiots don't realize their error until they're illegally storming the Capital.

I think you meant mostly peaceful protesting in the capital. 

[oggsmash]

Let us not forget the left wing motivated bombing of the US Capitol in 1983... historical memory is extremely short these days. Here's a summary of attacks on the capitol...

https://www.history.com/news/us-capitol-building-violence-fires

  Isnt that the attack where the people involved got pardoned?  If memory serves isnt one of the people involved in that one of the leaders of BLM now?  I want to say Bill Ayers was another one.  Time make terrorists into revolutionaries I guess.  I just laugh my ass off at people calling tards walking around the capital and shitting on a desk an insurrection.  I hope all the people tossing that word around get a chance to see an actual insurrection. 

[shuddemell]

"Defendants include Elizabeth Duke, who is being sought as a fugitive, Laura Whitehorn, Linda Evans, Marilyn Buck, Susan Rosenberg, Timothy Blunk and Alan Berkman, all of whom are incarcerated for other crimes, according to a Justice Department spokesman."

Then we should also mention the 1971 bombing of the capitol by the Weather Underground, also a splinter of the left wing Students for a Democratic Society... Leftist attacks on the government go far back and are far more extensive than any right wing attacks here in the US at the very least.