Imprison anyone who refuses the vax!

[Reckall]

Kiero might be a paranoid schizophrenic, given his behavior here. And you and guys like you keep enabling him. He probably badly needs help, but he won't get it because you guys keep normalizing his mental illness. You make him think his lizard-people views are normal. You're not helping him, or anyone else here. You're not fighting the good fight by defending his deranged posts. This is not a good outlet for your instinctive devil's advocate. You may be doing real life damage to a guy who needs help by propping him up because you want to "get one over" on me. Even though you can do that with me on a dozen other topics which are not about Kiero's homeless rantings about a secret cabal trying to take over the world.

I agree with this. Even if he is not paranoid schizophrenic it is obvious that he is in full denial mode. And with "full" I mean "total". Reasoning with him leads to nowhere: when someone, as "proof", points to a page whose contents are declared a fraud on the very same page you know everything you need to know.

I hope that, somehow, he will get professional help. But it is not by chance that "deprogrammer" is a job. Family, friends... even helpful people on the internet can do nothing. It is a sad reality but it is true.

[Pat]

Kiero might be a paranoid schizophrenic, given his behavior here. And you and guys like you keep enabling him. He probably badly needs help, but he won't get it because you guys keep normalizing his mental illness. You make him think his lizard-people views are normal. You're not helping him, or anyone else here. You're not fighting the good fight by defending his deranged posts. This is not a good outlet for your instinctive devil's advocate. You may be doing real life damage to a guy who needs help by propping him up because you want to "get one over" on me. Even though you can do that with me on a dozen other topics which are not about Kiero's homeless rantings about a secret cabal trying to take over the world.

I agree with this. Even if he is not paranoid schizophrenic it is obvious that he is in full denial mode. And with "full" I mean "total". Reasoning with him leads to nowhere: when someone, as "proof", points to a page whose contents are declared a fraud on the very same page you know everything you need to know.

I hope that, somehow, he will get professional help. But it is not by chance that "deprogrammer" is a job. Family, friends... even helpful people on the internet can do nothing. It is a sad reality but it is true.

You know what's fucking insane?

Random people with no qualifications whatsoever making clinical diagnoses over the internet and coming to the conclusion that people who disagree with them on a few points are suffering from some of the most extreme mental disorders known to exist.

I think Kiero is wrong about many, many things. But you're the nutjob. And naturally, I'm using the formal, DSM definition of "nutjob".

[Reckall]

Kiero might be a paranoid schizophrenic, given his behavior here. And you and guys like you keep enabling him. He probably badly needs help, but he won't get it because you guys keep normalizing his mental illness. You make him think his lizard-people views are normal. You're not helping him, or anyone else here. You're not fighting the good fight by defending his deranged posts. This is not a good outlet for your instinctive devil's advocate. You may be doing real life damage to a guy who needs help by propping him up because you want to "get one over" on me. Even though you can do that with me on a dozen other topics which are not about Kiero's homeless rantings about a secret cabal trying to take over the world.

I agree with this. Even if he is not paranoid schizophrenic it is obvious that he is in full denial mode. And with "full" I mean "total". Reasoning with him leads to nowhere: when someone, as "proof", points to a page whose contents are declared a fraud on the very same page you know everything you need to know.

I hope that, somehow, he will get professional help. But it is not by chance that "deprogrammer" is a job. Family, friends... even helpful people on the internet can do nothing. It is a sad reality but it is true.

You know what's fucking insane?

Random people with no qualifications whatsoever making clinical diagnoses over the internet and coming to the conclusion that people who disagree with them on a few points are suffering from some of the most extreme mental disorders known to exist.

As amazing as it sounds, there is an objective reality out there. In this objective reality I wrote:

"I was in a clinic when, all of sudden, the clinic was turned into a COVID ward and I was kicked out".

Kiero immediately turned this into:

"You are flaccid, you do not exercise and you got COVID".

This is only an example. Kiero not only points to false sources: he literally reads something that goes against his worldview and immediately his mind changes the very contents of what he read. I'm not even sure that he is aware of this. You can find many examples of this in this very thread.

I think Kiero is wrong about many, many things. But you're the nutjob. And naturally, I'm using the formal, DSM definition of "nutjob".

By your reasoning, all the people here who tried to engage with Kiero and point out his inconsistencies are, by your definition, "nutjobs" - because they are trying to help someone in denial of the very pandemic. I mean: they are already living their lives according to their beliefs, me included. There is no personal gain in trying to help Kiero.

But of course the mistake, here, is to call your reasoning "reasoning".

[3catcircus]

Kiero might be a paranoid schizophrenic, given his behavior here. And you and guys like you keep enabling him. He probably badly needs help, but he won't get it because you guys keep normalizing his mental illness. You make him think his lizard-people views are normal. You're not helping him, or anyone else here. You're not fighting the good fight by defending his deranged posts. This is not a good outlet for your instinctive devil's advocate. You may be doing real life damage to a guy who needs help by propping him up because you want to "get one over" on me. Even though you can do that with me on a dozen other topics which are not about Kiero's homeless rantings about a secret cabal trying to take over the world.

I agree with this. Even if he is not paranoid schizophrenic it is obvious that he is in full denial mode. And with "full" I mean "total". Reasoning with him leads to nowhere: when someone, as "proof", points to a page whose contents are declared a fraud on the very same page you know everything you need to know.

I hope that, somehow, he will get professional help. But it is not by chance that "deprogrammer" is a job. Family, friends... even helpful people on the internet can do nothing. It is a sad reality but it is true.

You know what's fucking insane?

Random people with no qualifications whatsoever making clinical diagnoses over the internet and coming to the conclusion that people who disagree with them on a few points are suffering from some of the most extreme mental disorders known to exist.

As amazing as it sounds, there is an objective reality out there. In this objective reality I wrote:

"I was in a clinic when, all of sudden, the clinic was turned into a COVID ward and I was kicked out".

Kiero immediately turned this into:

"You are flaccid, you do not exercise and you got COVID".

This is only an example. Kiero not only points to false sources: he literally reads something that goes against his worldview and immediately his mind changes the very contents of what he read. I'm not even sure that he is aware of this. You can find many examples of this in this very thread.

I think Kiero is wrong about many, many things. But you're the nutjob. And naturally, I'm using the formal, DSM definition of "nutjob".

By your reasoning, all the people here who tried to engage with Kiero and point out his inconsistencies are, by your definition, "nutjobs" - because they are trying to help someone in denial of the very pandemic. I mean: they are already living their lives according to their beliefs, me included. There is no personal gain in trying to help Kiero.

But of course the mistake, here, is to call your reasoning "reasoning".

Yes, but was he wrong? Are you flaccid and do you not exercise?  I assume he meant your health, being compromised by being out of shape and overweight?  If so, he isn't wrong - being overweight *is* a known contributor to lowered immune response and is a comorbidity for more severe disease.

[Pat]

Kiero might be a paranoid schizophrenic, given his behavior here. And you and guys like you keep enabling him. He probably badly needs help, but he won't get it because you guys keep normalizing his mental illness. You make him think his lizard-people views are normal. You're not helping him, or anyone else here. You're not fighting the good fight by defending his deranged posts. This is not a good outlet for your instinctive devil's advocate. You may be doing real life damage to a guy who needs help by propping him up because you want to "get one over" on me. Even though you can do that with me on a dozen other topics which are not about Kiero's homeless rantings about a secret cabal trying to take over the world.

I agree with this. Even if he is not paranoid schizophrenic it is obvious that he is in full denial mode. And with "full" I mean "total". Reasoning with him leads to nowhere: when someone, as "proof", points to a page whose contents are declared a fraud on the very same page you know everything you need to know.

I hope that, somehow, he will get professional help. But it is not by chance that "deprogrammer" is a job. Family, friends... even helpful people on the internet can do nothing. It is a sad reality but it is true.

You know what's fucking insane?

Random people with no qualifications whatsoever making clinical diagnoses over the internet and coming to the conclusion that people who disagree with them on a few points are suffering from some of the most extreme mental disorders known to exist.

As amazing as it sounds, there is an objective reality out there. In this objective reality I wrote:

"I was in a clinic when, all of sudden, the clinic was turned into a COVID ward and I was kicked out".

Kiero immediately turned this into:

"You are flaccid, you do not exercise and you got COVID".

So your response to someone on the internet calling you a fat limp-dick is to clinically diagnose them as a paranoid schizophrenic, and then when someone points out how absolutely fucking insane that is, you just say no no no he's clearly a paranoid schizophrenic, look at this post where he called me a fat limp-dick!

You're not just a fucking nutjob, you're a hilariously un-selfaware nutjob.

[Reckall]

Kiero might be a paranoid schizophrenic, given his behavior here. And you and guys like you keep enabling him. He probably badly needs help, but he won't get it because you guys keep normalizing his mental illness. You make him think his lizard-people views are normal. You're not helping him, or anyone else here. You're not fighting the good fight by defending his deranged posts. This is not a good outlet for your instinctive devil's advocate. You may be doing real life damage to a guy who needs help by propping him up because you want to "get one over" on me. Even though you can do that with me on a dozen other topics which are not about Kiero's homeless rantings about a secret cabal trying to take over the world.

I agree with this. Even if he is not paranoid schizophrenic it is obvious that he is in full denial mode. And with "full" I mean "total". Reasoning with him leads to nowhere: when someone, as "proof", points to a page whose contents are declared a fraud on the very same page you know everything you need to know.

I hope that, somehow, he will get professional help. But it is not by chance that "deprogrammer" is a job. Family, friends... even helpful people on the internet can do nothing. It is a sad reality but it is true.

You know what's fucking insane?

Random people with no qualifications whatsoever making clinical diagnoses over the internet and coming to the conclusion that people who disagree with them on a few points are suffering from some of the most extreme mental disorders known to exist.

As amazing as it sounds, there is an objective reality out there. In this objective reality I wrote:

"I was in a clinic when, all of sudden, the clinic was turned into a COVID ward and I was kicked out".

Kiero immediately turned this into:

"You are flaccid, you do not exercise and you got COVID".

So your response to someone on the internet calling you a fat limp-dick

Kiero didn't do that. He literally changed a sentence into something literally different. I groaned only because that was the moment when I understood that he was beyond non-professional help.

is to clinically diagnose them as a paranoid schizophrenic

Maybe. And it was Mystwell who mused about that, not me (as anyone can see in the very posts you quoted). Please, an applause to another one who fails at basic reading.

, and then when someone points out how absolutely fucking insane that is, you just say no no no he's clearly a paranoid schizophrenic, look at this post where he called me a fat limp-dick!

You're not just a fucking nutjob, you're a hilariously un-selfaware nutjob.

Have you just diagnosed me?

[Reckall]

Kiero might be a paranoid schizophrenic, given his behavior here. And you and guys like you keep enabling him. He probably badly needs help, but he won't get it because you guys keep normalizing his mental illness. You make him think his lizard-people views are normal. You're not helping him, or anyone else here. You're not fighting the good fight by defending his deranged posts. This is not a good outlet for your instinctive devil's advocate. You may be doing real life damage to a guy who needs help by propping him up because you want to "get one over" on me. Even though you can do that with me on a dozen other topics which are not about Kiero's homeless rantings about a secret cabal trying to take over the world.

I agree with this. Even if he is not paranoid schizophrenic it is obvious that he is in full denial mode. And with "full" I mean "total". Reasoning with him leads to nowhere: when someone, as "proof", points to a page whose contents are declared a fraud on the very same page you know everything you need to know.

I hope that, somehow, he will get professional help. But it is not by chance that "deprogrammer" is a job. Family, friends... even helpful people on the internet can do nothing. It is a sad reality but it is true.

You know what's fucking insane?

Random people with no qualifications whatsoever making clinical diagnoses over the internet and coming to the conclusion that people who disagree with them on a few points are suffering from some of the most extreme mental disorders known to exist.

As amazing as it sounds, there is an objective reality out there. In this objective reality I wrote:

"I was in a clinic when, all of sudden, the clinic was turned into a COVID ward and I was kicked out".

Kiero immediately turned this into:

"You are flaccid, you do not exercise and you got COVID".

This is only an example. Kiero not only points to false sources: he literally reads something that goes against his worldview and immediately his mind changes the very contents of what he read. I'm not even sure that he is aware of this. You can find many examples of this in this very thread.

I think Kiero is wrong about many, many things. But you're the nutjob. And naturally, I'm using the formal, DSM definition of "nutjob".

By your reasoning, all the people here who tried to engage with Kiero and point out his inconsistencies are, by your definition, "nutjobs" - because they are trying to help someone in denial of the very pandemic. I mean: they are already living their lives according to their beliefs, me included. There is no personal gain in trying to help Kiero.

But of course the mistake, here, is to call your reasoning "reasoning".

Yes, but was he wrong? Are you flaccid and do you not exercise?

No and no. I admit that since this COVID business started I let me go a bit, but up to 2019 I visited foreign cities by walking 6-8 hours a day. And I do exercise at home.

Having said that, after turning 50 I do a general check-up (and an in-depth cardiological one) every year. Not many people know that you can have low cholesterol, low blood pressure and a good shape - and still risk an infarction because a single vessel became clogged. It is not pleasant and it costs but I feel it is worth it.

[Pat]

is to clinically diagnose them as a paranoid schizophrenic

Maybe. And it was Mystwell who mused about that, not me. Please, an applause to another one who fails at basic reading.

Funny, I could have swore you said "I agree with this."

Oh wait you did. So I'm not the one who fails at basic reading.

Have you just diagnosed me?

Yep. As I said in my previous post, I'm using the official DSM definition of nutjob, so it's a formal diagnosis based on a cursoryextensive analysis of one post and my credentials as a self-licensed internet psychologotherapistopath.

[Reckall]

is to clinically diagnose them as a paranoid schizophrenic

Maybe. And it was Mystwell who mused about that, not me. Please, an applause to another one who fails at basic reading.

Funny, I could have swore you said "I agree with this."

True. I agreed with might be and He probably badly needs help. And I still do. His posts made me worry about him, not the pandemic. I think it is only natural. Your mileage may vary.

Oh wait you did. So I'm not the one who fails at basic reading.

Yes, you are. Not only that, but you are also obsessed at "being right on the internet". This is my official diagnosis.

[HappyDaze]

I could offer a presumptive diagnosis, but I'm not being paid here to do work and there's no emergent need, so...

[Pat]

Yes, you are. Not only that, but you are also obsessed at "being right on the internet". This is my official diagnosis.

Says the pot telling the kettle that Black Lives Matter.

[Shasarak]

I think that we should just start symptomatic treatment while waiting for final diagnosis.

Its the only way to make money, I mean for his health and safety.

[Kiero]

I find it utterly hilarious that you muppets suffering from mass formation psychosis are calling me delusional.

The official narrative is the delusion, not the rejection of it. How do cowards like you get through a day, when you're scared of getting the sniffles?

[Pat]

I think that we should just start symptomatic treatment while waiting for final diagnosis.

Its the only way to make money, I mean for his health and safety.

I think we should mandate a vaccine, but clearly the existing consequences like losing a job or not being able to leave your house aren't working. Maybe threaten to take a kidney, or a left eye? That sounds like a tolerant and compassionate solution.

[HappyDaze]

I find it utterly hilarious that you muppets suffering from mass formation psychosis are calling me delusional.

The official narrative is the delusion, not the rejection of it. How do cowards like you get through a day, when you're scared of getting the sniffles?

The official narrative of reality is the delusion? Uh huh... The Matrix is not reality you dipship.