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Biden's Cascade of Failure!

Started by SHARK, October 15, 2021, 06:42:00 PM

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3catcircus

Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Nice ad hominem. This is an ovrwhelmingly popular move here in the states. It's not going to affect the working class, except by helping them with their student loan debt.

It's only popular amongst leftists cunts like you who think that they should have been given six figure incomes to prattle on about their "insights" while armed with worthless degrees that cost them $70,000.  If you spent tens of thousands of dollars to obtain a degree and you can't get a job beyond being a coffee-slinger or pizza delivery boy, you fucked up. 

It's not the responsibility of the girl who graduated from high school and started at $10/hr being a tool helper before finishing an apprenticeship as an electrician who is making $50k/yr to pay the loan off for the guy with a PhD in intersectional sociology who is $100k in debt.

It's not the responsibility of the guy who worked 3 jobs in college and ate ramen for weeks on end to pay for a degree.

It's not the responsibility of the person who paid back their loans.

It's not the responsibility of people who used one of the already existing loan forgiveness programs (all of which require some type of public service or a minimum number of payments to already be made).

Biden's "plan" for this is like everything else this administration does - rushed, not well thought out as to the secondary or tertiary effects, and not properly priced out.  More importantly, it's telling people that irresponsibility will be rewarded.  Fuck that and fuck anyone who thinks it's a good idea.

Wanna have your $100k racial gender studies degree loan forgiven? Go scrub the human excrement and pick up the used heroin needles off the streets of SF and LA.

3catcircus

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2022, 12:26:14 AM
What I find sad about the PPP thing is how Democrat politicans expected their followers to be stupid enough to not understand the basic difference between a PPP loan, and a student loan, or expect that they were dishonest enough to go along with the misdirection.

Really, the party keeps finding new ways to sink even lower.

Well, most of the liberals really are that stupid, as are plenty of those on the right.

*Most* people never read past the headline. Most never do their own research (or even know how to).

That having been said, the PPP loans were also a terrible idea.  Why were they given out to those who used them to avoid eating into profits, or give themselves bonuses? Why does Paul Pelosi need a PPP loan (or that it be forgiven?) Why are there *billions* in fraudulent PPP loans in the process of being recovered and the people who received them being prosecuted?

What should have happened with the PPP loans was that the company should have had to have been vetted as ready to lay people off or unable to make payroll.  Not "well we only made $1M this quarter instead of the $5M we normally would." Instead we get shit like "Insider Trading Pelosi" being given a forgiven PPP loan and "aspiring rapper" Mo Fayne going to jail for using a PPP loan to buy $85000 in jewelry and a $136000 Rolls Royce.

Ghostmaker

There's an argument to be made that such loans are predatory, and serve to manipulate and influence dumb college students/grads, once the hooks are in.

Keep in mind, though, this isn't about 'doing something for poor college grads'. Nothing so grand and altruistic. No, this is about propping up the atrocious polling for Dems who are looking down a twelve gauge barrel of electoral repercussions, even with their buddy Mitch the Bitch trying to derail things.

I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE

Quote from: 3catcircus on August 27, 2022, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Nice ad hominem. This is an ovrwhelmingly popular move here in the states. It's not going to affect the working class, except by helping them with their student loan debt.

It's only popular amongst leftists cunts like you who think that they should have been given six figure incomes to prattle on about their "insights" while armed with worthless degrees that cost them $70,000.  If you spent tens of thousands of dollars to obtain a degree and you can't get a job beyond being a coffee-slinger or pizza delivery boy, you fucked up. 

It's not the responsibility of the girl who graduated from high school and started at $10/hr being a tool helper before finishing an apprenticeship as an electrician who is making $50k/yr to pay the loan off for the guy with a PhD in intersectional sociology who is $100k in debt.

It's not the responsibility of the guy who worked 3 jobs in college and ate ramen for weeks on end to pay for a degree.

It's not the responsibility of the person who paid back their loans.

It's not the responsibility of people who used one of the already existing loan forgiveness programs (all of which require some type of public service or a minimum number of payments to already be made).

Biden's "plan" for this is like everything else this administration does - rushed, not well thought out as to the secondary or tertiary effects, and not properly priced out.  More importantly, it's telling people that irresponsibility will be rewarded.  Fuck that and fuck anyone who thinks it's a good idea.

Wanna have your $100k racial gender studies degree loan forgiven? Go scrub the human excrement and pick up the used heroin needles off the streets of SF and LA.

No, it is, because they're taxpayers, and the powers that be decided that my college bill is now going to be outsourced to the rubes that pay taxes. Doesn't matter what it is - and I spent my college money partying, because I had scholarships and private loans (that I defaulted and waited out the statute on).

Only a sucker plays against a system that's rigged against them.

3catcircus

Quote from: I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE on August 27, 2022, 11:00:32 AM
Quote from: 3catcircus on August 27, 2022, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Nice ad hominem. This is an ovrwhelmingly popular move here in the states. It's not going to affect the working class, except by helping them with their student loan debt.

It's only popular amongst leftists cunts like you who think that they should have been given six figure incomes to prattle on about their "insights" while armed with worthless degrees that cost them $70,000.  If you spent tens of thousands of dollars to obtain a degree and you can't get a job beyond being a coffee-slinger or pizza delivery boy, you fucked up. 

It's not the responsibility of the girl who graduated from high school and started at $10/hr being a tool helper before finishing an apprenticeship as an electrician who is making $50k/yr to pay the loan off for the guy with a PhD in intersectional sociology who is $100k in debt.

It's not the responsibility of the guy who worked 3 jobs in college and ate ramen for weeks on end to pay for a degree.

It's not the responsibility of the person who paid back their loans.

It's not the responsibility of people who used one of the already existing loan forgiveness programs (all of which require some type of public service or a minimum number of payments to already be made).

Biden's "plan" for this is like everything else this administration does - rushed, not well thought out as to the secondary or tertiary effects, and not properly priced out.  More importantly, it's telling people that irresponsibility will be rewarded.  Fuck that and fuck anyone who thinks it's a good idea.

Wanna have your $100k racial gender studies degree loan forgiven? Go scrub the human excrement and pick up the used heroin needles off the streets of SF and LA.

No, it is, because they're taxpayers, and the powers that be decided that my college bill is now going to be outsourced to the rubes that pay taxes. Doesn't matter what it is - and I spent my college money partying, because I had scholarships and private loans (that I defaulted and waited out the statute on).

Only a sucker plays against a system that's rigged against them.

The fact that you think it's acceptable to not pay your debts when you have the ability to do so is exactly why there shouldn't be any student loan forgiveness.  We're need to get back to the point where going back on a man's word could result in his death.

I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE

Quote from: 3catcircus on August 27, 2022, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: I HATE THE DEMIURGE I HATE THE DEMIURGE on August 27, 2022, 11:00:32 AM
Quote from: 3catcircus on August 27, 2022, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Nice ad hominem. This is an ovrwhelmingly popular move here in the states. It's not going to affect the working class, except by helping them with their student loan debt.

It's only popular amongst leftists cunts like you who think that they should have been given six figure incomes to prattle on about their "insights" while armed with worthless degrees that cost them $70,000.  If you spent tens of thousands of dollars to obtain a degree and you can't get a job beyond being a coffee-slinger or pizza delivery boy, you fucked up. 

It's not the responsibility of the girl who graduated from high school and started at $10/hr being a tool helper before finishing an apprenticeship as an electrician who is making $50k/yr to pay the loan off for the guy with a PhD in intersectional sociology who is $100k in debt.

It's not the responsibility of the guy who worked 3 jobs in college and ate ramen for weeks on end to pay for a degree.

It's not the responsibility of the person who paid back their loans.

It's not the responsibility of people who used one of the already existing loan forgiveness programs (all of which require some type of public service or a minimum number of payments to already be made).

Biden's "plan" for this is like everything else this administration does - rushed, not well thought out as to the secondary or tertiary effects, and not properly priced out.  More importantly, it's telling people that irresponsibility will be rewarded.  Fuck that and fuck anyone who thinks it's a good idea.

Wanna have your $100k racial gender studies degree loan forgiven? Go scrub the human excrement and pick up the used heroin needles off the streets of SF and LA.

No, it is, because they're taxpayers, and the powers that be decided that my college bill is now going to be outsourced to the rubes that pay taxes. Doesn't matter what it is - and I spent my college money partying, because I had scholarships and private loans (that I defaulted and waited out the statute on).

Only a sucker plays against a system that's rigged against them.

The fact that you think it's acceptable to not pay your debts when you have the ability to do so is exactly why there shouldn't be any student loan forgiveness.  We're need to get back to the point where going back on a man's word could result in his death.

So you're for Sharia law, then?

oggsmash

Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2022, 07:23:23 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 25, 2022, 06:04:14 PM
LMAO the official White House Twitter account is quote tweeting Republicans who bitch about college loan forgiveness, along with the amount of their forgiven PPP loans.

Dark Brandon is NOT havin' it. HAIL!

https://mobile.twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138

  Not having what?  People complain when people do not pay back the money they borrowed and promised to pay back?  What kind of upside down retard zero principle world do you live in?

In this case, the people complaining are congresscritters who had large PPP loans forgiven.  Try to keep up.

In other news, RNC has been caught on leaked audio taking marching orders from billionaire Steve Wynn (inb4 BUT MUH GEORGE SOROS):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/25/rnc-conference-call-steve-wynn/

  Have you just now found out ALL the higher ups in the US government are controlled by Billionaire activists?   It must be rough just now seeing how it works.  If you think anything the RNC does has jack shit to do with where my thoughts are, you are in a retarded upside down no principle world.

oggsmash

Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Nice ad hominem. This is an ovrwhelmingly popular move here in the states. It's not going to affect the working class, except by helping them with their student loan debt.

   McDonalds and pop music are very popular too.   idiots are often very happy with emotional short term "rewards".  I think the time to be ruled by idiots is coming towards an ending.

jeff37923

Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Nice ad hominem. This is an ovrwhelmingly popular move here in the states. It's not going to affect the working class, except by helping them with their student loan debt.

If this move is overwhelmingly popular, then why are so many people complaining about it?
"Meh."

jeff37923

Quote from: oggsmash on August 27, 2022, 01:33:31 PM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 26, 2022, 09:55:04 AM
Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2022, 07:23:23 AM
Quote from: Tubesock Army on August 25, 2022, 06:04:14 PM
LMAO the official White House Twitter account is quote tweeting Republicans who bitch about college loan forgiveness, along with the amount of their forgiven PPP loans.

Dark Brandon is NOT havin' it. HAIL!

https://mobile.twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138

  Not having what?  People complain when people do not pay back the money they borrowed and promised to pay back?  What kind of upside down retard zero principle world do you live in?

In this case, the people complaining are congresscritters who had large PPP loans forgiven.  Try to keep up.

In other news, RNC has been caught on leaked audio taking marching orders from billionaire Steve Wynn (inb4 BUT MUH GEORGE SOROS):
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/25/rnc-conference-call-steve-wynn/

  Have you just now found out ALL the higher ups in the US government are controlled by Billionaire activists?   It must be rough just now seeing how it works.  If you think anything the RNC does has jack shit to do with where my thoughts are, you are in a retarded upside down no principle world.

Dude, it's Tubesock Amy. Fucked In The Head is a normal state of being.
"Meh."

DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay

#475
Keep calling us nutjobs or psychos for being leftists (I also find it HILLARIOUS that your media bubble still hasn't actually taught you that Liberal values and politics are actually right-wing and support conservatism, but that's another matter entirely) we really don't mind,  we will just keep on winning. All that kind of vitriol does is reinforces the evidence that you're all hopelessly indoctrinated into one or more violence-worshiping death cults. Keep buying up your unregulated counterfeit fake gold and silver coins, collecting rancid PATRIOT SURVIVAL meals for an impending societal collapse, and living in denial that you're not only in the minority the rest of us either look down on, pity or are simply disgusted by your actions and beliefs.

I do wonder at what point the whole movement finally goes south and either fails/implodes into a suicide pact or is snuffed by law enforcement like all proper cults.

It's really neat seeing how braindead you all are actually openly wishing for or pretending that one day you will manifest actual death or civil war against the more reasonably sane 67% of the country as well as the entire armed forces of the west. Might as well invest in cyanide capsules now because if you have your way I promise that will be a much more swift and merciful end to your miserable existence than what will actually end up coming down the pipeline.

<3 XOXO

jeff37923

Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on August 27, 2022, 04:18:48 PM
Keep calling us nutjobs or psychos for being leftists (I also find it HILLARIOUS that your media bubble still hasn't actually taught you that Liberal values and politics are actually right-wing and support conservatism, but that's another matter entirely) we really don't mind,  we will just keep on winning. All that kind of vitriol does is reinforces the evidence that you're all hopelessly indoctrinated into one or more violence-worshiping death cults. Keep buying up your unregulated counterfeit fake gold and silver coins, collecting rancid PATRIOT SURVIVAL meals for an impending societal collapse, and living in denial that you're not only in the minority the rest of us either look down on, pity or are simply disgusted by your actions and beliefs.

I do wonder at what point the whole movement finally goes south and either fails/implodes into a suicide pact or is snuffed by law enforcement like all proper cults.

It's really neat seeing how braindead you all are actually openly wishing for or pretending that one day you will manifest actual death or civil war against the more reasonably sane 67% of the country as well as the entire armed forces of the west. Might as well invest in cyanide capsules now because if you have your way I promise that will be a much more swift and merciful end to your miserable existence than what will actually end up coming down the pipeline.

<3 XOXO

I see that you have skipped your meds again today....
"Meh."

Ghostmaker

Quote from: jeff37923 on August 27, 2022, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on August 27, 2022, 04:18:48 PM
Keep calling us nutjobs or psychos for being leftists (I also find it HILLARIOUS that your media bubble still hasn't actually taught you that Liberal values and politics are actually right-wing and support conservatism, but that's another matter entirely) we really don't mind,  we will just keep on winning. All that kind of vitriol does is reinforces the evidence that you're all hopelessly indoctrinated into one or more violence-worshiping death cults. Keep buying up your unregulated counterfeit fake gold and silver coins, collecting rancid PATRIOT SURVIVAL meals for an impending societal collapse, and living in denial that you're not only in the minority the rest of us either look down on, pity or are simply disgusted by your actions and beliefs.

I do wonder at what point the whole movement finally goes south and either fails/implodes into a suicide pact or is snuffed by law enforcement like all proper cults.

It's really neat seeing how braindead you all are actually openly wishing for or pretending that one day you will manifest actual death or civil war against the more reasonably sane 67% of the country as well as the entire armed forces of the west. Might as well invest in cyanide capsules now because if you have your way I promise that will be a much more swift and merciful end to your miserable existence than what will actually end up coming down the pipeline.

<3 XOXO

I see that you have skipped your meds again today....
There's no meds strong enough to fix what's wrong with it.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: 3catcircus on August 27, 2022, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2022, 12:26:14 AM
What I find sad about the PPP thing is how Democrat politicans expected their followers to be stupid enough to not understand the basic difference between a PPP loan, and a student loan, or expect that they were dishonest enough to go along with the misdirection.

Really, the party keeps finding new ways to sink even lower.

Well, most of the liberals really are that stupid, as are plenty of those on the right.

*Most* people never read past the headline. Most never do their own research (or even know how to).

That having been said, the PPP loans were also a terrible idea.  Why were they given out to those who used them to avoid eating into profits, or give themselves bonuses? Why does Paul Pelosi need a PPP loan (or that it be forgiven?) Why are there *billions* in fraudulent PPP loans in the process of being recovered and the people who received them being prosecuted?

What should have happened with the PPP loans was that the company should have had to have been vetted as ready to lay people off or unable to make payroll.  Not "well we only made $1M this quarter instead of the $5M we normally would." Instead we get shit like "Insider Trading Pelosi" being given a forgiven PPP loan and "aspiring rapper" Mo Fayne going to jail for using a PPP loan to buy $85000 in jewelry and a $136000 Rolls Royce.

Hell, no argument from me on that one.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

HappyDaze

Quote from: Ghostmaker on August 28, 2022, 12:10:30 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on August 27, 2022, 04:30:28 PM
Quote from: DefNotAnInsiderNopeNoWay on August 27, 2022, 04:18:48 PM
Keep calling us nutjobs or psychos for being leftists (I also find it HILLARIOUS that your media bubble still hasn't actually taught you that Liberal values and politics are actually right-wing and support conservatism, but that's another matter entirely) we really don't mind,  we will just keep on winning. All that kind of vitriol does is reinforces the evidence that you're all hopelessly indoctrinated into one or more violence-worshiping death cults. Keep buying up your unregulated counterfeit fake gold and silver coins, collecting rancid PATRIOT SURVIVAL meals for an impending societal collapse, and living in denial that you're not only in the minority the rest of us either look down on, pity or are simply disgusted by your actions and beliefs.

I do wonder at what point the whole movement finally goes south and either fails/implodes into a suicide pact or is snuffed by law enforcement like all proper cults.

It's really neat seeing how braindead you all are actually openly wishing for or pretending that one day you will manifest actual death or civil war against the more reasonably sane 67% of the country as well as the entire armed forces of the west. Might as well invest in cyanide capsules now because if you have your way I promise that will be a much more swift and merciful end to your miserable existence than what will actually end up coming down the pipeline.

<3 XOXO

I see that you have skipped your meds again today....
There's no meds strong enough to fix what's wrong with it.
Well, there are, but they have some nasty side effects...