2020 Election Commentary

[HappyDaze]

Dominion has sent notices to Giuliani and Cipollone telling them to preserve documents ahead of "imminent legal action".

No there is a fear reaction if I ever saw one.....

The fear reaction is those who have been defaming Dominion for weeks with no evidence being called to pay deep fines for said behavior. Truth is a defense to defamation and they will not be able to use that defense.

Will it be another kraken?

[SHARK]

As an aside, you remember Michael Bloomberg? The jackass that ran for President recently and who's campaign failed miserably after about a month? This moron spent--wait for it--500 MILLION DOLLARS on a bullshit campaign that went NOWHERE and accomplished NOTHING. You know how many people are living in the United States of America? Say, 350 million. Michael Bloomberg could have donated ONE MILLION DOLLARS to every man, woman, and child in America--and still saved money from his stupid political campaign. Every man, woman, and child in America could have been given likely more money in one stroke of a pen than they would ever have in a fucking lifetime.

SHARK, you might want to look at the math on this claim again. You're pretty hugely off on this. $500 million split among 350 million people would be one dollar and 42 cents per person, not a million per person. I say this because in a number of other subjects, you do have an attention to detail -- like with respect to history. I wouldn't expect most of your opinions to change, but if your claim here is off by a million times, I hope you might look back and allow that some other claims might have some flaws.

I say that as yet another example of the presence of wealth and resources. The country--and certainly the planet--have plenty of wealth and resources to ensure everyone is taken care of, and has essential opportunities. The idea that we don't have the resources, so therefore we must bow down to a one-world government and entrust an elite few to rule over us with tyrannical power is a tyrant's feverish dream, and totally evil. The fucking globalists are evil and must be resisted. Globalists, Technocrats, Marxists, whatever you want to call them--they are all evil, wicked people, yearning for tyranny. They are all members of the same club.

A lot of the liberal left share a distaste for elite billionaires. I think a significant part of Bloomberg's failure wasn't his position, but rather that his billionaire status didn't go over well with the progressive wing among Democrats. I realize that you feel they are misguided and that what they are voting for is tyranny, but it seems to me that is an overlap in position where populist conservatives and leftist progressives have some common ground.

Greetings!

Yeah, Jhkim, I got my analogy flipped around in my head wrong. Thank you. But you get the main point I was making. Bloomberg is an example of an enormous amount of wealth frivolously wasted. Clearly, the wealth and resources to ensure the prosperity and survival of society--here in America--but secondarily by extension to the world, is quite abundant.

I recently heard that America, for example, supplies 70% of the world with food, or key elements of their food. If America stopped shipping food out to people around the world, a whole lot of people would be hurting very fast. We have abundant resources, and the idea that we cannot support the present population of the earth is a flat out lie. Same BS with birth control and abortion. All of it is evil and nonsense.

Our problems are founded within political leadership, officials, inter-tribal and inter-group hatred, poor civic planning, corruption, and lack of modern transportation, storage, and technical networks--refrigeration, electricity, roadways, trains, and so on.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[myleftnut]

Will it be another kraken?

Sydney Powell says she's now been banned from the White House. This just keeps getting better. 

[Pat]

But you get the main point I was making. Bloomberg is an example of an enormous amount of wealth frivolously wasted. Clearly, the wealth and resources to ensure the prosperity and survival of society--here in America--but secondarily by extension to the world, is quite abundant.

I recently heard that America, for example, supplies 70% of the world with food, or key elements of their food. If America stopped shipping food out to people around the world, a whole lot of people would be hurting very fast. We have abundant resources, and the idea that we cannot support the present population of the earth is a flat out lie. Same BS with birth control and abortion. All of it is evil and nonsense.

Our problems are founded within political leadership, officials, inter-tribal and inter-group hatred, poor civic planning, corruption, and lack of modern transportation, storage, and technical networks--refrigeration, electricity, roadways, trains, and so on.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Bloomberg's money isn't wasted. Billionaires don't have huge stacks of money in vaults. They own companies, which have been judged to provide immense value by their customers in a free market. Without Bloomberg, someone may have created an equivalent of the Bloomberg machine. Or they might not have, or it might have been delayed, or achieved less penetration. That $60 billion or so his company is worth didn't exist before he created it. Now, yes, other people might have used the same staff, the same office space, the same chips, and all the other resources he mobilized to produce something valuable in his absence. So we can't say for sure that, without him, the world would be $60 billion poorer. But since the whole point of a market is to make the best use of scarce resources, we know any alternative use of those resources would have been worth less. And since the $60 billion is just what the company is worth, and doesn't measure the entire value he added, it can also be more. So while it's hard to pin a true value to his unique contributions, we know he added value, and did it more efficiently than anyone else who was competing for those same resources. He's not spending that $60 billion, he's using it, to add increase the total wealth of the world.

You're correct, there's no shortage of food in the world. The breadbaskets of the world, including the American heartlands, are more than sufficient to feed everyone. But people still starve. It's not a lack of will, or a lack of generosity. Charities, and foreign aid from wealthy countries, are both able and willing to mobilize more than enough feed to feed all the starving people in the world. The problem is food becomes another tool that dictators and other statists use to solidify their power. They accept the aid, then give it out to secure favors, and would rather let it rot than give it to their enemies. Donations of food, even if some does filter through to the truly needy, primarily help dictators to maintain their hold on power. It's a hard choice: Do we turn our backs and let people starve, in the hopes that the governments that caused that misery will collapse, and may be be replaced by something better? Or do we give out food, knowing perfectly well most of it won't go where it needs to go, and that it will enable the people who caused those conditions in the first place to hold onto power even longer?

Part of the reason we know we can feed the world is because populations are stabilizing. As countries move from poor to relatively well off, which has already happened to most of the world over the last 40 years, the birth rate plummets from far above replacement level, to roughly replacement level (populations stop growing). Projections are we'll reach a worldwide population of roughly 10 billion, and then stop. We can feed that world, but it's not because we have unlimited food. It's because people stop having so many kids. Which wouldn't be possible, without birth control.

[jeff37923]

Dominion has sent notices to Giuliani and Cipollone telling them to preserve documents ahead of "imminent legal action".

Now there is a fear reaction if I ever saw one.....

The fear reaction is those who have been defaming Dominion for weeks with no evidence being called to pay deep fines for said behavior. Truth is a defense to defamation and they will not be able to use that defense.

I take it back.
Your fear reaction is far more shrill.

[GameDaddy]

Bloomberg's money isn't wasted. Billionaires don't have huge stacks of money in vaults....

This is total bullshit right here...

Cash on Hand - Bill Gates
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He probably has something in the range of $5–11 billion in cash and equivalents, if I had to wager a guess. The average ultra high net worth investor had around 10% of their assets in cash equivalents in 2017 and Bill Gates is worth around $110 billion, give or take.

Apple Corporation
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/29/apple-q4-cash-hoard-heres-how-much-apple-has-on-hand.html
$191 Billion, which is thousand million dollars.

Warren Buffet
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https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/four-analysts-on-berkshire-hathaways-128-billion-cash-pile-2019-11-1028659828?op=1
128 Billion, and he's not spending it (From 2019)

From Another Source
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1. Bill Gates
Cash On Hand: $46.8 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 53.6%
The world's wealthiest billionaire is the king of cash among the top 100 billionaires in the world. His cash alone would make him the world's seventh richest man.

2. Ernesto Bertarelli
Cash On Hand: $13.5 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 90%
A Switzerland citizen who attributes the majority of his wealth to a drug manufacturer he and his sister inherited, and then sold to Merck.

3. Hans Rausing
Cash On Hand: $12 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 96%
The cash king in terms of portfolio percentage inherited his 50% stake of the world's largest maker of juice and milk cartons over three decades ago. Sold his stake in 2013 and now raises deer in Britain.

4. Mikhail Prokhorov
Cash On Hand: $10.1 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 80.8%
Prokhorov holds a sizeable stake in the world's largest aluminum producer and an eighty percent stake in the America's Brooklyn Nets basketball franchise.

5. Michael Dell
Cash On Hand: $9.5 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 55.9%
The man whose company started in his college dorm room has seen his company recently go from one of America's largest public company back to being privately held.

6. Roman Abramovich
Cash On Hand: $8.7 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 63%
Russia's third wealthiest man owns a stake in the world's largest nickel producer.

7. Mikhail Fridman
Cash On Hand: $8.6 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 63.2%
Fridman has control of Russia's largest closely held bank and second biggest food retailer.

8. Alisher Usmanov
Cash On Hand: $7.3 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 48.3%
Arguably Russia's technology finance guru. Has ownership stakes in Twitter, AirBnB, and Spotify. He invested in Facebook before ever meeting Mark Zuckerberg.

9. Viktor Vekselberg
Cash On Hand: $7.2 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 50%
He controls Russia's largest power supply company.

10. Phil Knight
Cash On Hand: $6.2 Billion
Cash As A Percentage of Portfolio: 27%
Mr. Just Do It, also known as the owner of Nike and sometimes labeled eccentric billionaire. Still pays Michael Jordan $60 million annually in royalties for Nike's ownership of the Jordan brand that brings in revenues north of $500 million for the company.

They have so much cash, you could spend the rest of your life just counting the stacks of money in their vaults and secret playboy mansions, and you wouldn't even come close to tallying what they have.

[rawma]

See what I did there? 

Yes, embarrassed yourself some more. LOL.

I even gave you a hint

Yeah, of course you wouldn't get it. I paraphrased your posts, throwing your bullshit straw man arguments back at you, nitwit

You were super adorable when you asserted that it was wrong to think a PhD could make a mistake, because even the most naive and sheltered freshmen don't believe that after minimal contact with actual PhDs. (Or you think that hinting that you had a PhD would somehow overawe people, which is even stupider.) Your attempt to manufacture a comeback failed utterly, because you could only base it on a misrepresentation of what I said. I'm beginning to doubt that any reputable institution granted you a PhD.

[rawma]

Voting machines were a big nothing burger.

Too late! The other side is already spinning up its own theories.

Your link is not working, so what did Biden say about the spinning theories?

Sorry, the URL was between " " when I pasted it and so it got mangled.

Corrected link was already given by jhkim; thank you!

[Trond]

See what I did there? 

Yes, embarrassed yourself some more. LOL.

I even gave you a hint

Yeah, of course you wouldn't get it. I paraphrased your posts, throwing your bullshit straw man arguments back at you, nitwit

You were super adorable when you asserted that it was wrong to think a PhD could make a mistake, because even the most naive and sheltered freshmen don't believe that after minimal contact with actual PhDs. (Or you think that hinting that you had a PhD would somehow overawe people, which is even stupider.) Your attempt to manufacture a comeback failed utterly, because you could only base it on a misrepresentation of what I said. I'm beginning to doubt that any reputable institution granted you a PhD.

"Base it on a misrepresentation" you don't say.
OK I guess I have to explain it then 😆
It was obviously an intentional straw man. I was parodying you and your insincere arguments.

[rawma]

It's entertaining how you clowns think a stolen election will be allowed to stand.

Still waiting to see any evidence of a stolen election. Unlikely that the toadies still in the Cabinet will invoke the 25th amendment; Trump declaring martial law will just fizzle on its own.

With Donald Trump melting down over the election he lost, there has been a consequence I did not expect. The bunker scene from Downfall keeps popping up, only with subtitles actually translating the German dialog. I guess it makes a better point than subtitling it with Trumpian dialog would have.

[Jaeger]

Will it be another kraken?

Sydney Powell says she%u2019s now been banned from the White House. This just keeps getting better. 

Get your fake news straight: %u201C...blocked by the White House counsel and others from seeing or speaking to the president%u201D on one day, by rino defeatist underlings who like to play those kind of games.

Not banned. Nice try word-switch misrepresentation man. One look at her twitter feed and she is still exchanging comments and reply's with the GE...

See, if you are trying to cause the other side to despair; it's much better to drop stuff that's harder to refute:

Creepy Joe Biden Call:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RowdyRep/status/1341499773455622145

This country is doomed. It's doomed, not just because of African-Americans, but because by 2040, this country is going to be minority white-European. You hear me? And you guys are going to have to start working more with Hispanics. Who make up a larger portion of population than y'all do!

Some are trying to say it's fake, but it's just a natural extension of his previous public statements:




And just so that this never gets memory holed:

How is Creepy Joe Biden's public statement not evidence?

Why should we not take this man at his word?

[rawma]

Your attempt to manufacture a comeback failed utterly, because you could only base it on a misrepresentation of what I said. I'm beginning to doubt that any reputable institution granted you a PhD.

"Base it on a misrepresentation" you don't say.
OK I guess I have to explain it then 😆
It was obviously an intentional straw man. I was parodying you and your insincere arguments.

You misrepresented what I said and made up an intentional straw man; dishonest. You thought it would embarrass someone other than yourself; stupid.

[myleftnut]

@Jaeger.  LOL.  Are you trying to get me upset by attacking Joe Biden?  I'm not on any politician's side.  I'm just laughing at this clown show.  It's reaching epic proportions.  I seriously joined this forum because I honestly thought the right was smarter than the SJWs.  At this point it's clear you guys are just the bizarro-SJWs.  The term echo chamber comes to mind.  Where have I heard that before?

[Shasarak]

Still waiting to see any evidence of a stolen election.

Its not proving a stolen election.  It is about proving that the election was legitimate.

[consolcwby]

No Evidence Of FRAUD, say those who want to create a new AUSCHWITZ IN AMERICA!
A list of evidence from a brave soul:
https://twitter.com/RepTedBudd/status/1341443808194605069

Will Pence Save America?
https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1341579724687073280
As President of the Senate, @Mike_Pence has sole power to tell the states he will not accept their electors b/c they vioated the Constittion. At this point the legislatures will either have to select new electors or stand down This will put Dems on defense from now till Jan 6th. He cannot LEGALLY accept fraudelent electors Dec 23rd is his highest call of duty is to defend the Constitution from the States failure to follow it. These States are in breach of contract of the Constitution by allowing Governors to circumvent State legislatures.
https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1341548817611706370
On January 6, @Mike_Pence is expected to count the legitimate votes and THROW OUT THE FRAUDULENT VOTES!
Oh, see how the LAW ACTUALLY WORKS??
(I was called a CHILD for knowing about this... *sigh*)

Senators Sue To Get Access To Voting Data:
https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1341582955483983873
https://twitter.com/SenRonJohnson/status/1341530716652367874

Remember the CONCOMMS?
EAM LOYALISTS:
RED1: POTUS twitter removal
RED2: Central communications blackout [continental US]
RED3: CLAS movement PELOSI or PENCE
RED4: Movement of MIL assets [10th Mountain_1st Marine_CPSD_Marine_QVIR] to central locations under guise of citizen riot control.
RED5: NAT MIL COM CEN
RED6: SEC OF DEF _instruct1
USSS
CASTLE_ROCK

RED1 CONFIRMED: https://saraacarter.com/twitter-will-clear-potus-account-followers-biden-campaign/
President-elect Joe Biden's campaign digital director   said that the accounts which the official POTUS and White House Twitter accounts follow will all be unfollowed by Twitter when Biden becomes president in January, Twitter reportedly told Biden's team.

Merry Christmas and New Year To All! And To All A Good Night!