2020 Election Commentary

[EOTB]

We're all just posting on the Internet Misty.  I'll give you props for more than that when you post a video of yourself calling shark a dumbass to his face.

No, you're not exercising any special bravery here.  You're enjoying the moment low-hierarchy men crave: to verbally ridicule what you oppose after you think it's lost.  You're not out celebrating with never-trumpers or Dems; you're choosing to come here instead to a thread you stayed out of until the election results came in, to tap dance.

And that's fine; I'm not upset we are where we're at as a country at this moment.  So many people are talking about the clarity of it.  And who knows?  The entire thing might jump the rails of the process, so we still get Trump + clarity (or the 8 state-SCOTUS case you don't mention could pan out).  But even if all we get is clarity, that's OK.  The neocon grift over the base, where corporate welfare and globalism get taken care of, while the base gets to see their kids die in sand wars for Boeing's stock price, is more at-risk than ever. 

Nothing the voters want can happen teaming with neocons.  Separating from your side is more immediately important than even preventing the Democrat wing of the uniparty bird from visible power.  No one's crying over here.  They're just updating their world view.

[Spinachcat]

I spoke with a legal client this afternoon about Alito and he's NOT a constitutional law specialist. He's waiting for professor he trusts to opine on the subject. His guess is the Texas vs. 4 states lawsuit takes precedence as it would encompass the issues of the PA lawsuit (and much more). Also, the law enforcement agencies (FBI, DOJ, etc) have to present their findings as well regarding the Dominion machines and their recent seizures of laptops, etc.

The lawyer made a big point that 2000 was far simpler as it involved one state without the appearance of malfeasance, just confusion and incompetence (aka, neither Bush nor Gore claimed criminal activity in Florida). The current situation involves numerous legal issues, many of them criminal and some of them of national security, so the level of convoluted mess for SCOTUS to deal with is unprecedented. 

He told me to chill because the electors voting mean nothing until the Senate meets in January and then, the Senate can postpone certifications if the Alphabet Agencies and/or SCOTUS have pending actions so NOTHING is truly done until January 20th.

And of course, Trump still has the Nuclear option. The media would paint that as "unprecedented" except for Abe went uber-nuclear and FDR went semi-nuclear when the country was endangered by douche bags.

[Spinachcat]

WHAT. WILL. YOU. DO. WHEN. BIDEN. IS. SWORN. IN. AND. NO. CIVIL. WAR. HAPPENS?

Civil war is already happening! Did you miss the riots and destruction of statues and civil property? The shredding of the Constitution in the name of the sniffles? The question isn't IF civil war is happens, its IF the Right answers the Left.

You believe the Right will continue to live on their knees.

You may be correct.

As for the WHAT.WILL.YOU.DO, I never have and never will kneel and I'm not alone. I've lived in the "gray areas" of society and I'm comfortable there. What you call "Trumpism" is actually civil nationalism, and that's what has been fired up. The establishment Republicans are quite sure "Trumpers" will get in line and vote as they're told in the future. I expect that is true for those people who identify as Republicans instead of nationalists.

Biden's handlers are globalists and globalism/communism is incompatible with nationalism, and especially incompatible with American tradition. Thus, if Biden becomes "president", the entire culture war will only increase in intensity.

It is questionable IF and WHEN and HOW the Right will (or will not) take action. Historically, divergent and opposing cultures clash violently until one culture is crushed or the nation divides.

It is not sensible to believe the USA is immune to such violence and conflict, especially as we are a nation born of violence and already fought one civil war....and the Right is heavily armed, rural and blue-collar, thus far more capable of initiating and sustaining a conflict than the Left who are heavily dependent on the fragile infrastructures we take for granted in the modern world. 

[KingCheops]

My understanding was Texas wasn't even alleging fraud.  Just that those states violated the Constitution as well as their State Constitutions.  So very low bar to clear.

Trump also has that executive order from September floating around out there in regards to foreign interference.  Given that Smartmatic/Dominion have been implicated in fraudulent elections in Venezuela and that they are owned by Canada/China he has a pretty good case to enact said executive order.

If the DOJ doesn't do anything about the State Farm Arena video then the DOJ/FBI are truly broken and need to be purged.

How can you guys let Soviet Canuckistan make you guys look like such idiots?  We're a fucking banana republic and we have our elections sorted out.

[Ratman_tf]

WHAT. WILL. YOU. DO. WHEN. BIDEN. IS. SWORN. IN. AND. NO. CIVIL. WAR. HAPPENS?

Civil war is already happening! Did you miss the riots and destruction of statues and civil property? The shredding of the Constitution in the name of the sniffles? The question isn't IF civil war is happens, its IF the Right answers the Left.

Yep. We've literally got people trying to secceed from the country in some major cities, like Seattle and Portland. Granted they've been sad little affairs, but the governors have done next to nothing about it, and let blocks of their cities go lawless for months at a time.
The riots and secessions are going to increase under a Biden administration when it turns out he's not going to hand out free rainbow lollipops and make the bad conservatives go away.

[EOTB]

How can you guys let Soviet Canuckistan make you guys look like such idiots?  We're a fucking banana republic and we have our elections sorted out.

If Canada gets out of line for an election or two, that's an entirely different impact on a world integration project than the US working against it.

[Shasarak]

Yep. We've literally got people trying to secceed from the country in some major cities, like Seattle and Portland. Granted they've been sad little affairs, but the governors have done next to nothing about it, and let blocks of their cities go lawless for months at a time.
The riots and secessions are going to increase under a Biden administration when it turns out he's not going to hand out free rainbow lollipops and make the bad conservatives go away.

Poor old CHAZ gets no respect.

The Rodney Dangerfield of autonomous zones.

[Snark Knight]

Yep. We've literally got people trying to secceed from the country in some major cities, like Seattle and Portland. Granted they've been sad little affairs, but the governors have done next to nothing about it, and let blocks of their cities go lawless for months at a time.
The riots and secessions are going to increase under a Biden administration when it turns out he's not going to hand out free rainbow lollipops and make the bad conservatives go away.

Poor old CHAZ gets no respect.

The Rodney Dangerfield of autonomous zones.

That they set up their own police force which killed two unarmed black kids within a matter of days at least means there's something to be said for the primordial powers that must've coalesced to create that level of irony. 

[VisionStorm]

I've ALWAYS been a neo con. I like the neo cons. I've always supported the neo cons. I know you think they're "Not true Republican" or some bullshit, but they're consistently the Republicans I've known and loved my whole life.

Why do you support corporatist war criminals who've been only pretending to be different from the neolib corporatist war criminals from the supposedly "Left-Wing" Democraptic party for decades only to screw over the American public and conning us to into endless wars?

Trump isn't. That doesn't make me a RINO - it makes your guy the outlier. You guys are Trump supporters, not Republican supporters. You only care if someone supports Trump - not if they support actual Republican principals and policies. Trumps immigration policies are not Republican policies. His trade war policies are not Republican policies. His globalism policies are not Republican policies. His approach to certain international allies are not Republican policies. NONE of this is Republican policies - it's just Trump policies which had more in common with the pro-union left of the 1970s than they do with Republican policies.

Which is why he's the only halfway decent Republicant president in my lifetime. Fuck, he was better than Obama, who only bullshitted his way into office with promises of "Hope" and "Change" only to follow up on Bush's policies, ram up on drone strikes, fail to fulfill a single campaign promise, get us into a few more wars of his own, expand the Patriot Act (rather than repeal it, like he promised) and ordered the extrajudicial assassination of US citizens (and also codified that shit as a power of the US President). That almost makes Trump a fucking saint by comparison. Any anyone is better than Bush (both of them).

Trump is the RINO. It's not even clear he was voting for Republicans all these years, and he sure as fuck doesn't support most Republican policies. You guys got suckered by a populist first, who chose the Republican party because it was the easiest path for his populism.

Trump is on record starting he was a Democrat, but would run Republican if he ever ran for President, which he obviously did. Don't remember where that was from, but he said it decades ago. But he didn't win because Republicans were dumb enough to vote a non-Republican in, he won because the Republicant party has been an ineffective garbage party, just like its identical cousin, the Democraptic party (which hasn't done anything for the American public for decades either), so Republicans were fed up with it. Which is why Trump's base is stronger than any Republicant President's in recent history. Neither party works, and the only thing that has kinda sorta worked has been Trump, precisely because he isn't a "real" Republicant.

Does my position still sound safe to you?

Bitch, no one here's gonna dox you and go to your house. This ain't an Antifa forum.

At the end of the day, Biden will be President and you guys will just be more sore losers along with those moping leftists from 2004 and the SJW progressives who lost this election as well.

You must be creaming yourself over the prospect, since Biden's a Neolib, which makes him basically the same thing as a "Neocon".

[Shasarak]

Has anyone mentioned Texas suing the other four states yet?

[Kyle Aaron]

I find Russian cynicism so refreshing. We need commentary like this in Australia.

"In healthy societies, older leaders age out and make room for younger leaders who take over for them after a lengthy period of study and apprenticeship. In sick societies, older leaders cling to power with no one competent there to replace them and once they die are replaced by traitors and criminals. The USSR and the USA are two such examples."

https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2020/11/watch-this.html

[Mistwell]

We're all just posting on the Internet Misty.  I'll give you props for more than that when you post a video of yourself calling shark a dumbass to his face.

SHARK has been incredibly frustrating on this topic. But I would never seriously insult him. He's a good guy in general and I've enjoyed his posts since before you had ever heard of him. Pretty sure he knows that, even if you don't.

No, you're not exercising any special bravery here.

I didn't say I was but nice strawman. I said my stance has never shifted on this topic and in response to you claiming I somehow only say things which are "safe" I am saying nothing I am saying here is the "safe" thing to say. YOUR position is the safe one in this context. You have far more allies here on this topic than I do. Your comment was just more bullshit chest thumping.

You're enjoying the moment low-hierarchy men crave: to verbally ridicule what you oppose after you think it's lost.  You're not out celebrating with never-trumpers or Dems; you're choosing to come here instead to a thread you stayed out of until the election results came in, to tap dance.

No I just always come here in addition to other places and in other places I am engaging in a different way because their user bases are different. For example, I post a lot more on certain sports boards than I do on any RPG boards.

And that's fine; I'm not upset we are where we're at as a country at this moment.  So many people are talking about the clarity of it.  And who knows?  The entire thing might jump the rails of the process, so we still get Trump + clarity (or the 8 state-SCOTUS case you don't mention could pan out).  But even if all we get is clarity, that's OK.  The neocon grift over the base, where corporate welfare and globalism get taken care of, while the base gets to see their kids die in sand wars for Boeing's stock price, is more at-risk than ever. 

Biden is closer to W. Bush than Trump, and an awful lot of the House and state legislators just elected are of the more traditional Republican ilk. We shall see but I think your prediction is wrong.

Nothing the voters want can happen teaming with neocons.  Separating from your side is more immediately important than even preventing the Democrat wing of the uniparty bird from visible power.  No one's crying over here.  They're just updating their world view.

For any legislation to get done, it will need some compromise with both parties. It won't be the Trump supporters they turn to. It will be the Neocons who that have a long history of working with.

[Mistwell]

WHAT. WILL. YOU. DO. WHEN. BIDEN. IS. SWORN. IN. AND. NO. CIVIL. WAR. HAPPENS?

Civil war is already happening! Did you miss the riots and destruction of statues and civil property? The shredding of the Constitution in the name of the sniffles? The question isn't IF civil war is happens, its IF the Right answers the Left.

You believe the Right will continue to live on their knees.

You may be correct.

I am correct.

The establishment Republicans are quite sure "Trumpers" will get in line and vote as they're told in the future. I expect that is true for those people who identify as Republicans instead of nationalists.

Very few identify as nationalists. They like Trump because he speaks his mind and isn't politically correct, but the nationalist philosophy is not the common denominator you think it is.

Biden's handlers are globalists and globalism/communism is incompatible with nationalism, and especially incompatible with American tradition. Thus, if Biden becomes "president", the entire culture war will only increase in intensity.

If the leader of the nation stops stoking the culture war fires, it will in fact die down.

It is not sensible to believe the USA is immune to such violence and conflict, especially as we are a nation born of violence and already fought one civil war....and the Right is heavily armed, rural and blue-collar, thus far more capable of initiating and sustaining a conflict than the Left who are heavily dependent on the fragile infrastructures we take for granted in the modern world.

I've heard this unibomber bullshit all my life. When it comes down to it, almost nobody really wants that world.

[consolcwby]

Yes. No fraud at all in PA! In fact, there is so much no fraud the SCOTUS must NEVER look into it (it'll be like looking into the Sun too long!)
I checked on it myself - absolutely logical reasoning on this: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1336320768888635396
What a wonderful FUCKING statement! Gives me real pause to think!

Meanwhile, in GA, Herr Kemp is putting the Verbotten on ze Legislature: https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1336098679355289600
Ein shwein! How dare those ignorant fools even CONTEMPLATE meeting mittout permission! All officials are now unofficial and shall be hereby replaced with Llamas!
Makes me feel better knowing Herr Kemp is in charge and preventing LAW! Don't those people understand? The VOTING IS OVER!
Herr Hister had the Japanese, Herr Kemp has this: https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1336175895837478912
Good to know the Chinese - humanitarians ALL OF THEM - are pitching in to help mit our elektion!
All Hail Herr Kemp!

However, in AZ, those bastions of the faith have REVOLTED: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/rep-daniel-mccarthy-announces-arizona-legislators-invoked-article-2-section-1-meaning-arizona-officially-contested-election/
I say, send the Kemp in with the Chinese Military to  STOP this INVASION of our PRIVACY!
Then this happened: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/arizona-supreme-court-agrees-hear-election-challenge-investigation-100-ballot-sample-finds-3-ballots-deemed-fraudulent-favor-biden/
Reeeeeeeeeeee!

Texas is suing?!  https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1336310213553647616
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/kobach-texas-case-challenges-election-directly-at-supreme-court/
Reeeeeeeee- *cough cough cough*
WHY TEXAS, WHY?! https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1336379156607750146/photo/1

Well, my BFF Eric will put a stop to this shi- https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/chinese-spy-raised-money-democrat-rep-eric-swalwell-planted-intern-congressional-office/
*crying*
NOOOOOOOO! https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/08/report-professor-di-dongsheng-china-long-old-friends-top-americas-core-inner-circle/

Its all moving to the Supreme Court, the MSM will do the exact opposite of what they did with Russian Collusion, Impeachment, with those cases they said they have it all, the walls are closing in on Trump, with the cases headed to SCOTUS they will say there is nothing there, remember its always the opposite of what is really going on.   

Look how its all starting to come together, Trump has the constitution on his side, these governors tried to create laws because of pandemic. These laws do not override the constitution, Trump is now calling them on it.  The MSM does not call the election, they tried to make the public believe this, the only strategy they had was cheat, have the MSM call the election in favor of Biden, have the SM put lables on everything that says their is no such thing as election fraud, and this was all pushed to have Trump concede, this is the only way Biden could win, the [DS] system is about to come down around them . Every path from that point forward favors Trump!

Also, my favorite General is FREED AT LAST!
https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1336382488172761098

Sorry. I can't keep up this pretense anymore! I can't be a whiny TDS BITCH like you peeps anymore! The emotional toll is... just... too... exhaust- *falls over*

EDIT: Here you go @SHARK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1l-nR1Apj4 <===TAKE A LOOKSEE!

[SHARK]

EDIT: Here you go @SHARK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1l-nR1Apj4 <===TAKE A LOOKSEE!

Greetings!

OOH RAH!!! Fucking *outstanding*, Consolcwby! I love that video! Goddamn right!

So much awesome in the video! The scenes of the traitor scum burning our flag brought some interesting memories to my mind. When I was in college, a group of several hundred students had gathered on the greenway to hold a protest event and demonstration. They were a conglomerate of Marxists, Feminists, Liberals and Muslims, all chanting and screaming "Death to Jews! Death To America!" and assorted Marxist and anti-American bullshit from a bullhorn. Some guy decided to throw this huge American flag onto the ground, and proceeded to stomp on it. Some chick was getting ready to hand this guy a lighter to set our flag on fire and burn it.

Wrong thing to do, with me around. Something clicked inside me, and I charged swiftly through the gathered crowd, up to their little stage, and grabbed the American flag out of this fucker's hands. I had my fist raised, and he exclaimed to me, demanding that I give the American flag back to him. I told him straight to his face that I would kill him right there before God and everyone if he desecrated the American flag. Several other students sought to take the flag from my grip, and I snarled at them, holding the flag tightly, "Who wants to die first?"

I gave the American flag back to some inoffensive chick that promised they would not desecrate the flag. I told them if they tried to stomp the American flag, or burn it, I would kill them, no matter how many of them were there. The police would not arrive in time to save them. I would make them pay dearly for any such desecration. Soon after this, the police did arrive on scene, as word spread across the campus like wildfire. I was questioned, and the event proceeded peacefully under the watchful eyes of the Police. The policeman congratulated me, and thanked me for my courage, patriotism, and loyalty. Within moments of the police questioning me--and releasing me without incident--the campus news people were on hand with reporters, interviewing me.

I watched the crowd, satisfied that the police would supervise the event properly, before proceeding onwards to attend my own classes. Lunch was over. There would be no desecration of the American flag on *my watch*. As I moved on, many other people came up to me from nowhere, and thanking me for standing up against them--the sceaming crowd, full of hate towards America and Jews. Death to Isreal, Death to America, and all that bullshit. Even days later, people in halls and classes would exclaim, "Are you the man that stood against the Anti-America protesters?"

Yeah. I'm an old-school Patriot. Push my buttons, and I will make these fuckers pay. Not happening with me. They can get away with it beyond my reach, beyond my sight, but try that bullshit in front of me, where I can do something about it? Yeah, buddy. I don't give a fuck if some court somewhere said you can burn the American flag. It won't save you from getting your head kicked in by me, and no, I make no apologies for it. Like I told the chick begging me not to kill the guy, you can scream and say whatever you want, I have no problem. Stomp on my flag, burn my flag, fuck no. Death and violence is coming quickly, I promise you. Everyone around me seemed to take me quite seriously, and they proceeded to behave themselves.

I told the police officers, you can arrest me. Better throw me in a deep jail cell, but I will not stop. I won't allow my flag, the American flag, to be stomped on or burned in my sight. My father fought and bled for that flag. Our forefathers died for that flag. *I* served in the Marines, to defend our nation, and in service to that flag. Only traitors and enemies desecrate our glorious American flag! The police officers agreed with me, and told me no worries, Marine!

So, yeah. The video is awesome. More Americans need to reach down and grab a hold. Resist. Stand up, get in these fuckers faces. Make them sob and shriek and cry. Fuck 'em. Bring the wrath and fire down. Get angry, get mean. Make them piss themselves from fear. Make them quiver their lips and gulp in apprehension from the pain to come. Put the fear of God in these traitor scum and we can begin to take back our country.

Thank you, Consolcwby!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK