Greetings!

Yes, I think that the Passions System is excellent--for Pendragon. We must remember, the Passions System is there really to help simulate playing the internal and personal flaws, strengths, and conflicts of heroic KNIGHTS. While the system can be used with other characters, the Passions System, like Pendragon, mostly assumes you are playing a heroic Knight. The Players are not assumed to be playing Druids, or Wizards, or morally shifty Rogues, or Rangers--but heroic KNIGHTS. D&D assumes a very different composition of Players than what is assumed for Pendragon. I have contemplated porting over systems like the Passions System from Pendragon, but after actually playing Pendragon, and really analyzing it, the system works optimally for Pendragon. I think trying to port it into other game systems is likely to be an exercise in frustration.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

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Quote from: SHARK on May 22, 2024, 06:25:36 AMGreetings!

*Laughing* Well, you see, unlike you, I take the Scriptures seriously. The "Sensible Christians" that you speak of are not typically "Sensible" at all--nor are they genuine, Bible-believing Christians. They are wicked, degenerate rebels that hate God. They hate righteousness and truth. They hate sound doctrine. The Scriptures talk about these kinds of "Sensible Christians." They are actually of the world, and enemies to Christ. They go after seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. They eagerly seek to have their ears tickled. They stand in the gate, and rejoice in the approval and favour of THE WORLD. They not only seek to wallow in their own depravity, and exalt their own pride, sin, and wickedness, but they also heartily approve of others that are even more depraved and degenerate than they themselves. They scorn righteousness and sound doctrine, preferring lies and corruption. We can see this everywhere in society today--"They shall call what is Good, Evil, and what is Evil, Good. They are heretics, and they are doomed to be judged in wrath and fire, unless they repent of their sin and throw themselves at Christ's feet and beg forgiveness.

Going down rabbit holes? *Laughing* Well, that is far better than going down the road to Hell, like these heretics. The worldly, all-accepting, spineless, inoffensive heretic "Christian" that has gained the praise and approval of the World are rebels against God, and God shall judge them in wrath, fire, and vengeance. Revelations discusses the heretic churches--just like all of these fake, heretic "Christians" that reject sound doctrine and Biblical truth, as they exalt women as priestesses, promote abortion, celebrate divorce and feminism, and LGBTQ+alphebet soup agendas. This is clearly seen with the Methodists in America. Or the Unitarians. They are all corrupt heretics, and will be damned by God's wrath and judgment. The fake, heretic churches in the Letters to the Churches are where their sins and wickedness is exposed. One of these kinds of corrupt, heretic churches, is the church that exalts "Love". It is not true love, and they reject God's discipline, wrath, and justice. "Love is Love!" and "All is LOVE!"--such expressions are actually heresy, and mocking God's truth. Such ideologies and doctrines promoted by these corrupt, heretic churches are distortions and evil, seeking to twist and contort God's Word into being a sweet thing that is acceptable and approved of by the World. So, these "Sensible Christians" are not truly Christians at all, but are heretics. They are fools, thinking themselves wise, but they are doomed to the fires of Hell.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Refresh yourself on scripture. Read Romans 14: 10-13 and recognize that your false pride is not a good thing.

Greetings!

Yes, Romans 14: 10-13 concerns various attributes of fellow Christians, whether some observe various festival days, the eating of different meats, and so on. There is liberty in Christ. The verses of Romans do not support fellow Christians to embrace heresy, and doctrines of seducing spirits and demons. As several excellent preachers have described such heretic, fake "Christians" as "Preaching a different Gospel," and of "Following after a different Christ." The Scriptures, as I alluded to several, strongly condemn such heretics.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

For Example - If you do not think that there is a special place in Hell waiting for Joel Olsteen, then you may need to reassess your Christianity....

Greetings!

*Laughing*! Yes, very true, brother! Sad, Olsteen is such a Charlatan! Slick, huge smile, always preaching sugar. It is like he is totally given over to "Tickling the congregation's ears." Exactly like I was referencing, brother. These kinds of False Preachers are careful to never preach anything about the truth of Scripture. They cherry-pick only the lightest, easiest verses in Scripture, then wrap it up in corruption, and preach only what is pleasing to the congregation. Of course Charlatans like him never preach anything that offends anyone. They preach a Rainbow Barney Gospel. Just like that stupid Purple Dinosaur. And the money keeps rolling into his bank accounts.

We see so many of the churches embracing filthy heresy nowadays. You see splits going on everywhere. Like I have told several of my friends, yes, expect divisions! Expect scandals and biting! You will see fighting break out, as just about all of these denominations--all of them, really--will all come to a point, where they will eagerly embrace the heresy of The World. They embrace a Barney Christianity, where LGBTQ is embraced, where women priestesses and feminism is embraced, where abortion is embraced, divorce, and on and on. Look at them! Watch how they all compromise, and justify their wicked, false gospel! As they do this, yes, there are also some conservative remnant that breaks away, and says "NO" to embracing the worldly philosophy of the age, and of heresy. The faithful remnant that seeks to stay true to the Scriptures, and the Lord. The stampede is on now, as all of these evil cattle, eagerly gather together to bow down to Satan. They are worshipping a "Different Christ". They are following a Barney Christianity.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

You see a female pastor you get the hell out of that church before the blasphemy begins.  The worst blasphemy I've seen 9 times out 10, female pastors.  Here is this little nugget of disgust to enjoy:


To which the reply from the congregation should be: Bitch, Deuteronomy 22:5

Rather than creating their own new pagan church, they take down a church that was paid for by christians and turn it into a scum sucking hole in the ground while the parishioner's leave.

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Quote from: SHARK on May 16, 2024, 11:01:03 AMGreetings!

I read the entire article.

You're braver than me, Shark.

I stopped the moment I saw "Tolkien was racist" excerpt quoted by Insane Nerd Ramblings. And, just for the record, I think the author of that text has never ever read any of Tolkien's works.

Greetings!

GREYWOLF76! Hey there, my friend! *Laughing* Yes, well, I do like to be thorough, and I like to know all about precisely what and who I am talking about. Yes, as you wish, my friend, you saved yourself the pain of reading the slop. Of wading through so much BS it is mind-boggling!

And yeah, that clown has never read Tolkien. On the other hand, theoretically it is possible--but these types of Marxist Demagogues, Marxist Shock Troops--they can read something you and I have read--and they then proceed to interpret such a book through their own distorted, Marxist, Racist, Feminist, Queer lens. And yes, they are insane. The Marxist ideology that serves as their philosophical foundation actually corrupts their mind, and erodes and pollutes their thinking, their mental faculties. It is laborious dealing with these kinds of people in any way, Greywolf76! Sadly, our corrupt society is actually creating MORE and MORE of these kinds of hate-filled monsters.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: jeff37923 on May 22, 2024, 01:31:09 PM

Quote from: SHARK on May 22, 2024, 12:18:36 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on May 22, 2024, 10:42:17 AM

Quote from: SHARK on May 22, 2024, 06:25:36 AMGreetings!

*Laughing* Well, you see, unlike you, I take the Scriptures seriously. The "Sensible Christians" that you speak of are not typically "Sensible" at all--nor are they genuine, Bible-believing Christians. They are wicked, degenerate rebels that hate God. They hate righteousness and truth. They hate sound doctrine. The Scriptures talk about these kinds of "Sensible Christians." They are actually of the world, and enemies to Christ. They go after seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. They eagerly seek to have their ears tickled. They stand in the gate, and rejoice in the approval and favour of THE WORLD. They not only seek to wallow in their own depravity, and exalt their own pride, sin, and wickedness, but they also heartily approve of others that are even more depraved and degenerate than they themselves. They scorn righteousness and sound doctrine, preferring lies and corruption. We can see this everywhere in society today--"They shall call what is Good, Evil, and what is Evil, Good. They are heretics, and they are doomed to be judged in wrath and fire, unless they repent of their sin and throw themselves at Christ's feet and beg forgiveness.

Going down rabbit holes? *Laughing* Well, that is far better than going down the road to Hell, like these heretics. The worldly, all-accepting, spineless, inoffensive heretic "Christian" that has gained the praise and approval of the World are rebels against God, and God shall judge them in wrath, fire, and vengeance. Revelations discusses the heretic churches--just like all of these fake, heretic "Christians" that reject sound doctrine and Biblical truth, as they exalt women as priestesses, promote abortion, celebrate divorce and feminism, and LGBTQ+alphebet soup agendas. This is clearly seen with the Methodists in America. Or the Unitarians. They are all corrupt heretics, and will be damned by God's wrath and judgment. The fake, heretic churches in the Letters to the Churches are where their sins and wickedness is exposed. One of these kinds of corrupt, heretic churches, is the church that exalts "Love". It is not true love, and they reject God's discipline, wrath, and justice. "Love is Love!" and "All is LOVE!"--such expressions are actually heresy, and mocking God's truth. Such ideologies and doctrines promoted by these corrupt, heretic churches are distortions and evil, seeking to twist and contort God's Word into being a sweet thing that is acceptable and approved of by the World. So, these "Sensible Christians" are not truly Christians at all, but are heretics. They are fools, thinking themselves wise, but they are doomed to the fires of Hell.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Refresh yourself on scripture. Read Romans 14: 10-13 and recognize that your false pride is not a good thing.

Greetings!

Yes, Romans 14: 10-13 concerns various attributes of fellow Christians, whether some observe various festival days, the eating of different meats, and so on. There is liberty in Christ. The verses of Romans do not support fellow Christians to embrace heresy, and doctrines of seducing spirits and demons. As several excellent preachers have described such heretic, fake "Christians" as "Preaching a different Gospel," and of "Following after a different Christ." The Scriptures, as I alluded to several, strongly condemn such heretics.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

For Example - If you do not think that there is a special place in Hell waiting for Joel Olsteen, then you may need to reassess your Christianity....

Greetings!

*Laughing*! Yes, very true, brother! Sad, Olsteen is such a Charlatan! Slick, huge smile, always preaching sugar. It is like he is totally given over to "Tickling the congregation's ears." Exactly like I was referencing, brother. These kinds of False Preachers are careful to never preach anything about the truth of Scripture. They cherry-pick only the lightest, easiest verses in Scripture, then wrap it up in corruption, and preach only what is pleasing to the congregation. Of course Charlatans like him never preach anything that offends anyone. They preach a Rainbow Barney Gospel. Just like that stupid Purple Dinosaur. And the money keeps rolling into his bank accounts.

We see so many of the churches embracing filthy heresy nowadays. You see splits going on everywhere. Like I have told several of my friends, yes, expect divisions! Expect scandals and biting! You will see fighting break out, as just about all of these denominations--all of them, really--will all come to a point, where they will eagerly embrace the heresy of The World. They embrace a Barney Christianity, where LGBTQ is embraced, where women priestesses and feminism is embraced, where abortion is embraced, divorce, and on and on. Look at them! Watch how they all compromise, and justify their wicked, false gospel! As they do this, yes, there are also some conservative remnant that breaks away, and says "NO" to embracing the worldly philosophy of the age, and of heresy. The faithful remnant that seeks to stay true to the Scriptures, and the Lord. The stampede is on now, as all of these evil cattle, eagerly gather together to bow down to Satan. They are worshipping a "Different Christ". They are following a Barney Christianity.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: KindaMeh on May 22, 2024, 05:27:33 PMPart of the problem, though, I feel, is that one cannot judge those of the past as though they had the knowledge and civilizational benefits of the present, because they didn't. They ultimately built those things, but they never got to live with them. Unluckily or perhaps even at times luckily the morals of modern day liberalism (in the classical and not "progressive" sense: free speech, individual rights, democracy, equal treatment under the law) also was not as widespread or even much a thing back then. Hell, for a long time phrenology of all things was considered a science,  which kind of just goes to show that folks' from the past's understanding of reality and not just their moral takes on it were pretty much utterly divorced from how most folks see things now. They were working not just with different morals but with a completely different world and alleged set of facts.

We cannot neglect the history of where we came from, nor the great works of the past, as written in the times as some such literary works were. Yet all too often I feel we act as though those with flaws in one or more areas of their personal lives or worldviews should not be acknowledged for accomplishments elsewhere, even when they are historic. Likewise, a myopic obsession with judging all prior decision making and thought as though it were arrived at through the lens of present facts and culture I feel obscures the real wins that took place in the building of what we have within present civilization(s). Probably something to be said there about oppression being judged only within a somewhat antiquated American cultural context or only within the context of specific demographics blinding us to some of the problems of the present, too, though I digress a bit there.

Well said.  This needs to be stickied at the top of the internet.

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Quote from: jhkim on May 22, 2024, 01:20:04 PMThis is why I talked about my appreciation for Howard as an author and explicitly pointed to my old Conan RPG material here:

Man I really love me some REH stories!

OMG!!!111!!! Looks at all teh WACIST stuff he wrote!!!!

Proceeds to point out things that arent racist.

Rinse repeat ad nausium.

This thread has been so thoroughly derailed by you two fuckwits. And its deliberate. You cant stand anyone pointing out your precious cult of idiocy is so abjectly wrong.

I'm discussing the topic of the thread. Disagreeing with you isn't derailing.

As for pointing at things that aren't racist, I stand firm that Howard's "The Last White Man" clearly expresses racism. It describes the black race as destroyers who can't create without white people, and a future where destructive black hordes pour out of Africa to wipe out all other races.

To have any discussion of what is or isn't racist, there needs to be some agreement on what racism is.

I will admit that given some of the things he wrote both privately and in public, especially as regards Black Canaan and The Last White Man, many of REH's books were racially charged. That's fair and prospectively somewhat important to acknowledge. But he also lived in an age where racism was a lot more common, and prior to the civil rights movement. So many of his thoughts on the subject of race assumed things we wouldn't today, especially with respect to innate ethnic biological traits and the like being substantively meaningful and blah. He also wrote pulp, where that kind of shorthand characterization was more common all told. In short, a man of his time,  though his views on race and marginalized ethnicities such as Jewish folks did seem to evolve as he aged and his portrayals arguably became more sympathetic and less essentialist over time. Had he not died early, who knows what he would have ultimately believed or become.


Part of the problem, though, I feel, is that one cannot judge those of the past as though they had the knowledge and civilizational benefits of the present, because they didn't. They ultimately built those things, but they never got to live with them. Unluckily or perhaps even at times luckily the morals of modern day liberalism (in the classical and not "progressive" sense: free speech, individual rights, democracy, equal treatment under the law) also was not as widespread or even much a thing back then. Hell, for a long time phrenology of all things was considered a science,  which kind of just goes to show that folks' from the past's understanding of reality and not just their moral takes on it were pretty much utterly divorced from how most folks see things now. They were working not just with different morals but with a completely different world and alleged set of facts.

We cannot neglect the history of where we came from, nor the great works of the past, as written in the times as some such literary works were. Yet all too often I feel we act as though those with flaws in one or more areas of their personal lives or worldviews should not be acknowledged for accomplishments elsewhere, even when they are historic. Likewise, a myopic obsession with judging all prior decision making and thought as though it were arrived at through the lens of present facts and culture I feel obscures the real wins that took place in the building of what we have within present civilization(s). Probably something to be said there about oppression being judged only within a somewhat antiquated American cultural context or only within the context of specific demographics blinding us to some of the problems of the present, too, though I digress a bit there.


Point being, that kind of myopic thought is arguably at the core of the critiques folks want to level at the history of D&D. Only worse, in that the present "facts" and "values" being used are oftentimes centered in a blinding woke obsession with identity politics as an inherent good. Rather than a threat giving rise to inequality in treatment on the basis of innate attributes, both institutionally and corporately, and even under the law. Which under critical theory is apparently the "only solution" to current racism. Past discirimination requiring present discrimination to correct, and that in turn requiring more discrimination, forever.

Quote from: Omega on May 22, 2024, 03:07:50 PMThis thread has been so thoroughly derailed by you two fuckwits. And its deliberate. You cant stand anyone pointing out your precious cult of idiocy is so abjectly wrong.

Yep.  Once the topic starts making the left look bad, the jhkim-bot rides in to save the day by picking a minor, ancillary point and running away with it in order to deflect attention.

The reality is that fantasy literature and RPGs, having become popular, must be tortured into the service of the woke ideology, and that means tearing down the ideas and tropes that built that popularity.  The left is composed of abject fools: they are always trying to rebuild pyramids starting with the top block...

Quote from: jhkim on May 21, 2024, 11:51:02 AMHis girlfriend Novalyne Price wrote about a conversation with him where he told her, "I guess you know if a Negro is found on the streets after dark in Coleman, Santa Anna, and several other towns around here, they run him out of town.  Chances are they might tar and feather him." When Novalyne reacted negatively, Howard elaborated, "Let me tell you something, girl, that you don't seem to know.  Those people come from a different line.  They have different blood -"

Hearsay your honor, the prosecution knows full well they can't prove this "conversation" ever transpired.

Quote from: Omega on May 22, 2024, 03:30:02 PMWorse is they have infiltrated anime and manga and are "fixing" them by adding woke dialogue.

Well, the woke localizers are now being pushed out in favor of AI translation. We warned them too, but they doubled and tripled down on their horseshit. The whole thing came to a head over Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid and the shit dialogue inserted by Funimation woke asshole voice actors. And the fact it was over Lucoa (Quetzalcoatl) was even more ironic as she's objectively shown to be dense about how she walks around 'jiggling' and her utter lack of modesty.