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World of Brightness - what would that be like? Ideas??

Started by Koltar, December 23, 2008, 09:48:55 AM

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Here's something slightly different I wrote, as inspired by the same phrase.

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#32
Quote from: RPGPundit;275370You want a "World of Brightness"? OK:

The stars were shifting in alignment, and slowly, but surely, it was happening. People were manifesting wonderful powers: some to heal, some to protect, some to find truth, others to have visions of the future. And every single one of us could fly.

And we knew, those of us who had been affected, that the great change was going to come to ALL mankind, because all of us were created equal.  None of us is more special, though our gifts may be different.

For some few, knowledge of this drove them mad; thinking that they were the only "special ones" who deserved to be gifted (because they thought of themselves as greater thinkers, or better artists, or prettier, or simply superior) they have now banded together in the shadows and seek out sinister ways of trying to stop the gifting, so that only they will get the power and get to keep it for themselves. They will try to use dark magic and fringe religion, and drive the world into a superstition where only they have power and they are the "natural elite".

We are the Lodge. In it, we are all equal, and everyone who is free and of good report may join.  We are dedicated to make sure that the next step in human evolution goes to ALL human beings, to rid ourselves of popes and kings and tyrants, and not let a band of criminal pretentious elitists try to become the new tyrants peddling a lie that they are better than everyone else and that other human beings are just their chattel in a pointless world.  We have Science and Reason as weapons to help us, we work in the light, not in the darkness, and Democracy is our strength. And we're going to kick these Swines' asses.

RPGPundit

No easy way to say this...you're a closet leftist. :D

EDIT: OMG, the pipe, the mask...that explains...

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Koltar

#33
He might be a 'leftist' - I'm not one, but more oftren than not Pundit's opinions on gaming and mine tend to overlap in preferences.


Pundit, in general had the right idea and close to what I'm thinking about.

Even tho in this proposed setting "Good" has a great shot at winning in the long run - the players won't know that.

 Think World War II for comparison - did the Allies actually know the moment and day when things started to turn fior the better? Or was that recognized or acknowledged weeks , months, or even years later.


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Quote from: Age of Fable;275701No easy way to say this...you're a closet leftist. :D

Traditional leftism is egalitarian, at least in principle, but (post)modern leftism is derived from the Gramscian and Frankfurt school critique, explaining the failure of revolutionary forces in Europe during the Great War, that the masses don't know what's good for them (due to false consciousness, Christianity etc), and thus need to be led by an enlightened elite.  You see this in all kinds of modern leftist thought, Environmentalism is a good example.  So is the EU.  Pundit's views by contrast seem close to those of the Libertarian Marxists such as at Spiked! http://www.spiked-online.com/ - formerly Living Marxism.
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Quote from: S'mon;275722Traditional leftism is egalitarian,

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S'mon

Quote from: Pierce Inverarity;275723Try telling that Lenin, bucko.

I'm sure he'd agree with me.  In principle.

Personally I'm more of a traditionalist these days.  Constitutional monarchy FTW.
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Quote from: Age of Fable;275701No easy way to say this...you're a closet leftist. :D

EDIT: OMG, the pipe, the mask...that explains...


Inasmuch as Classical Liberalism, Enlightenment-era (Masonic) democratic values can be seen as "leftist" (as in, left of Monarchism, autocracy, fascism or theocracy), then I guess I would be "leftist".

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Quote from: RPGPundit;275729Inasmuch as Classical Liberalism, Enlightenment-era (Masonic) democratic values can be seen as "leftist" (as in, left of Monarchism, autocracy, fascism or theocracy), then I guess I would be "leftist".

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Well if you define it that way - then I might be one too.


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The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
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This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
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Age of Fable

Quote from: S'mon;275722Traditional leftism is egalitarian, at least in principle, but (post)modern leftism is derived from the Gramscian and Frankfurt school critique, explaining the failure of revolutionary forces in Europe during the Great War, that the masses don't know what's good for them (due to false consciousness, Christianity etc), and thus need to be led by an enlightened elite.

Oh yeah...I forgot about that. I was at the meeting where that was decided. It was pretty controversial. Or at least it would have been, if we weren't so authoritarian.
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Its hard to deny that Gramsci has been one of the foremost influences on modern leftists. That's the pity, because there is a whole other tradition of progressive though that put individual freedom at the very forefront.  And now instead we have this situation where if you're "progressive" you're a collectivist, and if you're for individual liberty, then you're some kind of nutwing reactionary.

Which pretty much somes up why most left-wingers think I'm terribly conservative and most right-wingers think I'm a radical leftist.

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Quote from: Age of Fable;275762Oh yeah...I forgot about that. I was at the meeting where that was decided. It was pretty controversial. Or at least it would have been, if we weren't so authoritarian.

You obviously didn't get the memo that only Right forces can be Authoritarian. :p
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Quote from: RPGPundit;275771Its hard to deny that Gramsci has been one of the foremost influences on modern leftists. That's the pity, because there is a whole other tradition of progressive though that put individual freedom at the very forefront.  And now instead we have this situation where if you're "progressive" you're a collectivist, and if you're for individual liberty, then you're some kind of nutwing reactionary.

Which pretty much somes up why most left-wingers think I'm terribly conservative and most right-wingers think I'm a radical leftist.

RPGPundit

It didn't take Gramsci to define left politics as fundamentally class-based, hence collective. That's right there in Marx. If anything, in the past decades that broad base for solidarity has been atomized into micro-collectivities by "progressive" identity politics. In turn, given your liberty vs. lockstep thing, what you are is no mystery either, Snowflake. You're a 1950s-type liberal humanist. That position is still pretty popular out there.
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KrakaJak

Quote from: RPGPundit;275370You want a "World of Brightness"? OK:

The stars were shifting in alignment, and slowly, but surely, it was happening. People were manifesting wonderful powers: some to heal, some to protect, some to find truth, others to have visions of the future. And every single one of us could fly.

And we knew, those of us who had been affected, that the great change was going to come to ALL mankind, because all of us were created equal.  None of us is more special, though our gifts may be different.

For some few, knowledge of this drove them mad; thinking that they were the only "special ones" who deserved to be gifted (because they thought of themselves as greater thinkers, or better artists, or prettier, or simply superior) they have now banded together in the shadows and seek out sinister ways of trying to stop the gifting, so that only they will get the power and get to keep it for themselves. They will try to use dark magic and fringe religion, and drive the world into a superstition where only they have power and they are the "natural elite".

We are the Lodge. In it, we are all equal, and everyone who is free and of good report may join.  We are dedicated to make sure that the next step in human evolution goes to ALL human beings, to rid ourselves of popes and kings and tyrants, and not let a band of criminal pretentious elitists try to become the new tyrants peddling a lie that they are better than everyone else and that other human beings are just their chattel in a pointless world.  We have Science and Reason as weapons to help us, we work in the light, not in the darkness, and Democracy is our strength. And we're going to kick these Swines' asses.

RPGPundit
This actually sounds exactly like the Technocracy from Mage: the Ascension. They originally weren't the good guys but later on in the canon, the Traditions and the Technocracy joined forces against the nihilistic Nephandi.
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Quote from: KrakaJak;275786This actually sounds exactly like the Technocracy from Mage: the Ascension. They originally weren't the good guys but later on in the canon, the Traditions and the Technocracy joined forces against the nihilistic Nephandi.

How I understand it, the Technocracy wanted everyone to be relatively secure and safe, but at the cost of taking away the wonder from existence; while the wonderful different special snowflake mages were the ones fighting for a world where reality was totally bendable to their wills and they'd get to rule over the worthless peasants who no one gave a fuck about anyways.

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