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Wokists Have Officially Run Out of Things To Accuse Gamers of Doing

Started by RPGPundit, May 05, 2023, 10:19:56 AM

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RPGPundit

May 05, 2023, 10:19:56 AM
After this accusation, it's clear the Woke have obviously run out of things to claim we gamers oppress...
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Summon666

#1
May 05, 2023, 10:41:37 AM
can't you just tell us, so we are not force to watch some youtuber?

GhostNinja

#2
May 05, 2023, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: Summon666 on May 05, 2023, 10:41:37 AM
can't you just tell us, so we are not force to watch some youtuber?

The youtuber is him but yes, I agree.  I wish he would just tell us.
Ghostninja

rytrasmi

#3
May 05, 2023, 11:14:45 AM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 05, 2023, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: Summon666 on May 05, 2023, 10:41:37 AM
can't you just tell us, so we are not force to watch some youtuber?

The youtuber is him but yes, I agree.  I wish he would just tell us.
Imagine running a free forum and having your users bitch about your content delivery format and wanting to make a few bucks from a video.
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GeekyBugle

#4
May 05, 2023, 11:21:09 AM
Who knew I was not welcome in the hobby! Somebody should have informed me sooner, not nice guys!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GhostNinja

#5
May 05, 2023, 12:42:23 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on May 05, 2023, 11:14:45 AM
Imagine running a free forum and having your users bitch about your content delivery format and wanting to make a few bucks from a video.

No, this is about the RPG Pundit trying to get more views on his Youtube page. 

That's fine, if he wants to post a video instead of a thread where he talks about a subject, I guess I just won't engage.
Ghostninja

GhostNinja

#6
May 05, 2023, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 05, 2023, 11:21:09 AM
Who knew I was not welcome in the hobby! Somebody should have informed me sooner, not nice guys!

I guess I am not either.  Having a not friendly tone is not a good way to keep people coming back to a forum.
Ghostninja

Jason Coplen

#7
May 05, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 05, 2023, 12:42:23 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on May 05, 2023, 11:14:45 AM
Imagine running a free forum and having your users bitch about your content delivery format and wanting to make a few bucks from a video.

No, this is about the RPG Pundit trying to get more views on his Youtube page. 

That's fine, if he wants to post a video instead of a thread where he talks about a subject, I guess I just won't engage.

Wait a few days and someone who watches the video will reply, and you can usually get the gist of it.
Running: HarnMaster, Barbaric 2E!, and EABA.

GeekyBugle

#8
May 05, 2023, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 05, 2023, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 05, 2023, 11:21:09 AM
Who knew I was not welcome in the hobby! Somebody should have informed me sooner, not nice guys!

I guess I am not either.  Having a not friendly tone is not a good way to keep people coming back to a forum.

Not sure why you're answering this to me, I'm mocking the idiots who claimed TTRPG players were prejudiced against people like me.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GhostNinja

#9
May 05, 2023, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: Jason Coplen on May 05, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
Wait a few days and someone who watches the video will reply, and you can usually get the gist of it.

Good point.  Thank You
Ghostninja

GhostNinja

#10
May 05, 2023, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 05, 2023, 02:33:23 PM
Not sure why you're answering this to me, I'm mocking the idiots who claimed TTRPG players were prejudiced against people like me.

Misunderstood your post.  Sorry about that.
Ghostninja

GeekyBugle

#11
May 05, 2023, 07:00:56 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 05, 2023, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: Jason Coplen on May 05, 2023, 02:26:25 PM
Wait a few days and someone who watches the video will reply, and you can usually get the gist of it.

Good point.  Thank You

Woke publication Wired > RPGers are prejudiced against "neurodivergent" people. Because reasons.
Pundit > "Will you look at the idiots!"
Me > ROTFLMAO!
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

GhostNinja

#12
May 05, 2023, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 05, 2023, 07:00:56 PM
Woke publication Wired > RPGers are prejudiced against "neurodivergent" people. Because reasons.
Pundit > "Will you look at the idiots!"
Me > ROTFLMAO!

None of which is true so Wired is just making stuff up?  Great.

Why dont they go back to talking about computer topics and leave the rest to other people more competent to talk about them?
Ghostninja

jhkim

#13
May 05, 2023, 07:26:15 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 05, 2023, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 05, 2023, 07:00:56 PM
Woke publication Wired > RPGers are prejudiced against "neurodivergent" people. Because reasons.
Pundit > "Will you look at the idiots!"
Me > ROTFLMAO!

None of which is true so Wired is just making stuff up?  Great.

Why dont they go back to talking about computer topics and leave the rest to other people more competent to talk about them?

I think this is the article which Pundit is talking about. It's on Wired from May 2, by Laurence Russell.

https://www.wired.com/story/neurodivergent-gamers-tabletop-rpgs/

It starts:

Quote from: Laurence RussellTHE TABLETOP GAMING community offers a place for communication and togetherness that can be incredibly rare in modern culture. It's a privilege that nerds have gotten better at sharing in recent years, particularly with those who need community most.

Dr. Elizabeth Kilmer is a clinical psychologist who uses tabletop role-playing games (TTRPGs) in therapy, and she herself was diagnosed with ADHD. "Narrative and metaphor have been used in therapy, healing, and educational practices for a long time," she explains. "You can see examples in folk tales, parables, and other oral traditions. TTRPGs can be a powerful tool because they are so interactive, and they allow us to be vulnerable through our character, while protecting ourselves."

"At the role-playing table, we can pretend to be braver than we feel in real life," agrees Jacob Wood, founder of the Accessible Games Blog and a longtime blind TTRPG player and GM. "Through fantasy, I learned to be comfortable talking to groups of other people, even if I didn't know them very well. Without these chances to express myself, I'd still be hiding away in my house on my own."

Understanding the Problem
As experts who have brought tabletop gaming to disabled and neurodiverse people for years, and part of the community themselves, people like Wood and Kilmer have created accommodations for people who haven't always been able to participate.

"Communication is hard," Kilmer reminds us. "Passive and indirect communication strategies can be particularly challenging for neurodivergent individuals (and isn't great for neurotypicals either). This can contribute to the stigma that autistic and ADHD players shouldn't or can't play TTPRGs."

It reads to me that TTRPGs are generally positive for neurodivergent people, but that things could be better with more accommodation.

Grognard GM

#14
May 05, 2023, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: jhkim on May 05, 2023, 07:26:15 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on May 05, 2023, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 05, 2023, 07:00:56 PM
Woke publication Wired > RPGers are prejudiced against "neurodivergent" people. Because reasons.
Pundit > "Will you look at the idiots!"
Me > ROTFLMAO!

None of which is true so Wired is just making stuff up?  Great.

Why dont they go back to talking about computer topics and leave the rest to other people more competent to talk about them?

I think this is the article which Pundit is talking about. It's on Wired from May 2, by Laurence Russell.

https://www.wired.com/story/neurodivergent-gamers-tabletop-rpgs/

It starts:

Quote from: Laurence RussellTHE TABLETOP GAMING community offers a place for communication and togetherness that can be incredibly rare in modern culture. It's a privilege that nerds have gotten better at sharing in recent years, particularly with those who need community most.

Dr. Elizabeth Kilmer is a clinical psychologist who uses tabletop role-playing games (TTRPGs) in therapy, and she herself was diagnosed with ADHD. "Narrative and metaphor have been used in therapy, healing, and educational practices for a long time," she explains. "You can see examples in folk tales, parables, and other oral traditions. TTRPGs can be a powerful tool because they are so interactive, and they allow us to be vulnerable through our character, while protecting ourselves."

"At the role-playing table, we can pretend to be braver than we feel in real life," agrees Jacob Wood, founder of the Accessible Games Blog and a longtime blind TTRPG player and GM. "Through fantasy, I learned to be comfortable talking to groups of other people, even if I didn't know them very well. Without these chances to express myself, I'd still be hiding away in my house on my own."

Understanding the Problem
As experts who have brought tabletop gaming to disabled and neurodiverse people for years, and part of the community themselves, people like Wood and Kilmer have created accommodations for people who haven't always been able to participate.

"Communication is hard," Kilmer reminds us. "Passive and indirect communication strategies can be particularly challenging for neurodivergent individuals (and isn't great for neurotypicals either). This can contribute to the stigma that autistic and ADHD players shouldn't or can't play TTPRGs."

It reads to me that TTRPGs are generally positive for neurodivergent people, but that things could be better with more accommodation.

I'm for any reasonable accommodation that doesn't inconvenience or make people uncomfortable. Sadly we live in a age where if 30 people are enjoying something in silence, and one person is incapable of not having shrieking fits, the 30 people must 'accommodate' that person.

I feel there is a certain range of acceptable behavior at a table, and if someone can't operate within it, they can find a special game with other such individuals, or maybe the hobby legitimately isn't for them. I know I'm probably istaphobic to say so, but gaming is relaxation, not a job.

PS - The therapist sounds like a Storygamer.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/
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