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Wizards Announces New "Evolved" D&D Revision

Started by RPGPundit, September 29, 2021, 11:55:56 PM

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Pat

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Could you at least properly quote the first selection from each post you're replying to? You're mixing up multiple posters and multiple posts without any attribution at all, which basically makes it impossible to follow the conversation.

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: fixable on December 30, 2021, 02:26:06 AM
need to accept that the world is a different place.

I'll accept nothing from a few woke scold gimps...

Games the same as it's always been as far as I'm concerned. Play what the fuck you want though. But I'm not going to do anything to appease a few inconsequential bed wetters.

Incidentally, you're more than welcome to Hasbro and Dragons. it's a load of pigswill...








Attack-minded and dangerously so - W.E. Fairbairn.
youtube shit:www.youtube.com/channel/UCt1l7oq7EmlfLT6UEG8MLeg

fixable

Quote from: Spinachcat on December 30, 2021, 03:42:24 AM
Quote from: fixable on December 30, 2021, 02:49:32 AMIt is about considering women equal in terms of marketing and maybe relegating women in game art to being nothing but sex objects is not a great way to go about that.

Time to stop being a colossal dumbfuck and pick up a copy of Vogue, or any other women's fashion magazine and learn how WOMEN MARKET TO WOMEN and how WOMEN respond to sexual marketing.

Hint: Women spend a HUGE portion of their income in the grand and mighty hope to be looked upon with lust by men.

Lust. Not respect. Not admiration. Pure animal lust is the goal.
wow, pure animal lust you say? Is that so?

Quote from: Spinachcat on December 30, 2021, 03:42:24 AM
Quote from: fixable on December 30, 2021, 02:49:32 AMI'm going to bring my daughter into the RPG fold but not if she's just going to be a sex object for some basement dwellers.

THIS is pure comedy gold.

Do you not remember high school? Early 20s? Anytime past puberty?

ProTip: Boys like girls. And want to fuck them.

Advanced ProTip: Girls like boys. And want to fuck them.
You know it is possible for boys and girls to have healthy sexual interactions without misogyny or objectifying each other, right? You also know that I'm ok with sexual interactions between boys and girls when it comes from a healthy mutual respect, right?

Are you like 12 or something? You have this very immature and naive opinion about women.

fixable

Quote from: Slambo on December 30, 2021, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on December 30, 2021, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: fixable on December 30, 2021, 02:49:32 AM
Well the audience for fantasy has grown up. We aren't teenagers anymore who are drooling over chainmail bikinis. That nonsense is over. It's not about power or control its about growing up and being adults about this. It is about considering women equal in terms of marketing and maybe relegating women in game art to being nothing but sex objects is not a great way to go about that.
Too old to enjoy chainmail bikinis?! Never!!!!

It's a game, not a fucking sociology paper. Plenty of women who play these games enjoy the titillating bits, too. Why do you think the chainmail bikini babe always has a well-oiled beefy dude nearby? Like, have you never seen the cover of a romance novel? "But one is objectification and the other is not!!!" LOL. That's an obvious double standard worthy of ridicule. You seem like the typical prude who thinks that women should suppress their sexuality, and therefore so should men.

Wasn't there a game that sold a female-only version where all the art was of women? Apparently it didn't sell well. Apparently women gamers don't just want to look at other women. Whoda thunk it!?

I play mostly with women, and you are right, they like playing attractive characters.

Also it was Swords and Wizardry and iirc it wasnt all women in the book it was all the art inside was done by women.
I mostly play with women and they like playing attractive characters that are dressed less like sex objects and more like actual female adventurers.

Shasarak

Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:13:47 AM
I mostly play with women and they like playing attractive characters that are dressed less like sex objects and more like actual female adventurers.

That does not sound very realistic.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

fixable

Quote from: Shasarak on January 05, 2022, 03:24:42 AM
Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:13:47 AM
I mostly play with women and they like playing attractive characters that are dressed less like sex objects and more like actual female adventurers.

That does not sound very realistic.
Yeah sure. It doesn't sound realistic for female gamers to visualize themselves as female adventurers. All women want to be chainmail bikini clad vixens. Right whatever you say. What do you know about the people I game with?

Rob Necronomicon

Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:28:32 AM
Yeah sure. It doesn't sound realistic for female gamers to visualize themselves as female adventurers. All women want to be chainmail bikini clad vixens. Right whatever you say. What do you know about the people I game with?

Truth is for these types... Most of the time they are either archaic religious fools, or woke scolds who actually want to censor gaming for others by trying to 'imprint' their morals or belief system on an elf game.

But I'm all for equal rights... I personally, don't care if women want to sexualize men in a game, and have them running around in chain mail thongs - good for them! Or maybe create a woke game with thirsty sword lesbians. I'm an adult, so I make the choice of what I play or consume. It's not to be dictated to by some conservative or extreme woke lefty oxygen thief.

We don't have to care about 'your kids' coming into the hobby, or anyone else's for that matter. There are plenty of 'safe' rpg games that can be enjoyed by any everyone. You decide what 'your' kids play... Not us, and it's not for us to cater to your PG tastes - You've got Ha$$$$$bro to do that.





Attack-minded and dangerously so - W.E. Fairbairn.
youtube shit:www.youtube.com/channel/UCt1l7oq7EmlfLT6UEG8MLeg

Shrieking Banshee

Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:28:32 AMWhat do you know about the people I game with?

You where the one who came in here claiming that changes where required, saying #itsmaturenow.

The answer is most women don't care about D&D. Most PEOPLE don't care about D&D. If a niche wants sex appeal, they can get what they want. The truth is that the majority still want sex appeal. They just keep their mouth shut because you shame them and they buy something else.

Slambo

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Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:13:47 AM
Quote from: Slambo on December 30, 2021, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: rytrasmi on December 30, 2021, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: fixable on December 30, 2021, 02:49:32 AM
Well the audience for fantasy has grown up. We aren't teenagers anymore who are drooling over chainmail bikinis. That nonsense is over. It's not about power or control its about growing up and being adults about this. It is about considering women equal in terms of marketing and maybe relegating women in game art to being nothing but sex objects is not a great way to go about that.
Too old to enjoy chainmail bikinis?! Never!!!!

It's a game, not a fucking sociology paper. Plenty of women who play these games enjoy the titillating bits, too. Why do you think the chainmail bikini babe always has a well-oiled beefy dude nearby? Like, have you never seen the cover of a romance novel? "But one is objectification and the other is not!!!" LOL. That's an obvious double standard worthy of ridicule. You seem like the typical prude who thinks that women should suppress their sexuality, and therefore so should men.

Wasn't there a game that sold a female-only version where all the art was of women? Apparently it didn't sell well. Apparently women gamers don't just want to look at other women. Whoda thunk it!?

I play mostly with women, and you are right, they like playing attractive characters.

Also it was Swords and Wizardry and iirc it wasnt all women in the book it was all the art inside was done by women.
I mostly play with women and they like playing attractive characters that are dressed less like sex objects and more like actual female adventurers.

Well i guess i have to tell the players at my table they're doing it wrong. Two of the girls explicitly only play sexy characters

Redwanderer

Quote from: GeekEclectic on September 30, 2021, 03:30:13 AM
"Get the **** out so everyone can play!" - ain't that just perfect the perfect motto for them, too. *chases everyone off* "Which -ism can we blame for our lack of players this time?" and *repeat*


How can they? Anyone can play whatever they want- or can they stop someone from buying something? These days, maybe they can.

Jaeger

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Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on January 05, 2022, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:28:32 AMWhat do you know about the people I game with?

You where the one who came in here claiming that changes were required, saying #itsmaturenow.

The answer is most women don't care about D&D. Most PEOPLE don't care about D&D. If a niche wants sex appeal, they can get what they want. The truth is that the majority still want sex appeal. They just keep their mouth shut because you shame them and they buy something else.

WotC has been all about change as of late, and they don't seem very ashamed of who they want to "appeal to" with their latest art drops:




Oh those crazy Satyr's...


#itsmaturenow.
"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

rytrasmi

Is that a woman cosplaying a satyr something? Because the essence of the satyr is male. It's a vital part of his "identity."

If it's a female satyr, then what the actual fuck? Imagine a male nymph. On second thought, don't. Imagine never buying anything from a company that shits on the mythology on which its products are founded.
The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out
The ones that crawl in are lean and thin
The ones that crawl out are fat and stout
Your eyes fall in and your teeth fall out
Your brains come tumbling down your snout
Be merry my friends
Be merry

Jam The MF

Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Shasarak

Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:28:32 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on January 05, 2022, 03:24:42 AM
Quote from: fixable on January 05, 2022, 03:13:47 AM
I mostly play with women and they like playing attractive characters that are dressed less like sex objects and more like actual female adventurers.

That does not sound very realistic.
Yeah sure. It doesn't sound realistic for female gamers to visualize themselves as female adventurers. All women want to be chainmail bikini clad vixens. Right whatever you say. What do you know about the people I game with?

I dont like to make specific claims about imaginary people.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

DocJones

Quote from: rytrasmi on January 05, 2022, 06:51:28 PM
Is that a woman cosplaying a satyr something? Because the essence of the satyr is male. It's a vital part of his "identity."

If it's a female satyr, then what the actual fuck? Imagine a male nymph. On second thought, don't. Imagine never buying anything from a company that shits on the mythology on which its products are founded.
I guess it's a trans satyr.