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Uzmek, Broo, Xfiles Black Oil and Body Horror

Started by crkrueger, September 05, 2013, 08:13:08 PM

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Koltar

#45
September 06, 2013, 11:21:38 PM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;689204Alien. It's about rape........

NO, it isn't.

It's an attempt to do a classic 'Haunted House' movie - but set in space with some actual fear and terror involved.

There are plenty of True and Urban myth stories of insects and such planting eggs in parts of human bodies - the first movie was just that idea amped up to '11+" in scale.

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JonWake

#46
September 06, 2013, 11:41:34 PM
Quote from: Koltar;689236NO, it isn't.

It's an attempt to do a classic 'Haunted House' movie - but set in space with some actual fear and terror involved.

There are plenty of True and Urban myth stories of insects and such planting eggs in parts of human bodies - the first movie was just that idea amped up to '11+" in scale.

- Ed C.

Quoted for truth.  Body horror isn't about rape, it's about violation on a fundamental level. It has more to do with cancer than rape. There's a lot of vaguely sexual themes with the Alien, but at no point is it portrayed as a sexual assault-- it's more like a disease or nasty case of crabs. See the repeated medical motifs in Alien, and the insect motifs in Aliens. Also, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Ravenswing

#47
September 07, 2013, 12:41:14 AM
Quote from: TristramEvans;689232It was a creature designed " so that no player would want to take it as a PC race". Maybe it's uncharitable of me, but seeing as that was listed as the primary reason for the creatire's creation, that suggests to me that the motivation was based on a dislike of players wanting to play monsters as races. And if you dislike that it's fine, but it's like saying "I'm sick of those damn kids wanting to play with all my toys, so I'll pee all over this one".
Mm, I wouldn't quite phrase it that way.  More like "I'm sick of those damn kids wanting to play with all my toys, and I don't have the balls to Just Say No, so I'll go all passive-aggressive and pee all over this one."
This was a cool site, until it became an echo chamber for whiners screeching about how the "Evul SJWs are TAKING OVAH!!!" every time any RPG book included a non-"traditional" NPC or concept, or their MAGA peeners got in a twist. You're in luck, drama queens: the Taliban is hiring.

thedungeondelver

#48
September 07, 2013, 02:06:56 AM
Quote from: Koltar;689236NO, it isn't.

It's an attempt to do a classic 'Haunted House' movie - but set in space with some actual fear and terror involved.

There are plenty of True and Urban myth stories of insects and such planting eggs in parts of human bodies - the first movie was just that idea amped up to '11+" in scale.

- Ed C.

Wrong again; it's a remake of It! The Terror From Space with bits of Voyage of the Space Beagle mixed in.
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TristramEvans

#49
September 07, 2013, 02:26:13 AM
It was based on a script for The Cat From Outer Space 2: Lassie's Revenge

Benoist

#50
September 07, 2013, 02:34:36 AM
You guys got it all wrong. It's a remake of Snoopy, the Peanuts and the Spider Face-mask from Outer Space.

Evansheer

#51
September 07, 2013, 07:41:15 AM
Quote from: Catelf;689228and someone chaotic do not bother about consensuality at all.

What the fuck?  Chaotic does not mean "doesn't care if it's rape or not".  

Not caring about consent when it comes to sex is squarely evil.

The Traveller

#52
September 07, 2013, 08:09:29 AM
No, I am Ellen Ripley.
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Just Another Snake Cult

#53
September 07, 2013, 08:52:12 AM
On Alien:

"One thing that people are all disturbed about is sex... I said 'That's how I'm going to attack the audience; I'm going to attack them sexually. And I'm not going to go after the women in the audience, I'm going to attack the men. I am going to put in every image I can think of to make the men in the audience cross their legs. Homosexual oral rape, birth. The thing lays its eggs down your throat, the whole number.'"

-screenwriter Dan O'Bannon

http://www.cracked.com/article_18932_alien-film-franchise-based-entirely-rape.html

There was another interview where O'Bannon dropped the deeply disturbing yet fascinating bombshell that his original Starbeast (proto-Alien) screenplay was "Inspired by a terrifying sexual experience" that he personally had.
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Evansheer

#54
September 07, 2013, 09:09:43 AM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;689282There was another interview where O'Bannon dropped the deeply disturbing yet fascinating bombshell that his original Starbeast (proto-Alien) screenplay was "Inspired by a terrifying sexual experience" that he personally had.

Geez. At least H. R. Giger's artwork is inspired just by his night terrors.  One hopes...

Ravenswing

#55
September 09, 2013, 03:43:48 AM
Quote from: Evansheer;689271What the fuck?  Chaotic does not mean "doesn't care if it's rape or not".  

Not caring about consent when it comes to sex is squarely evil.
"Chaoticevil" and "Lawfulgood," as run-on portmanteaus, have been in broad circulation in D&D circles for decades now.

Reason #51 to give alignment the finger.
This was a cool site, until it became an echo chamber for whiners screeching about how the "Evul SJWs are TAKING OVAH!!!" every time any RPG book included a non-"traditional" NPC or concept, or their MAGA peeners got in a twist. You're in luck, drama queens: the Taliban is hiring.

Catelf

#56
September 09, 2013, 08:59:15 AM
Quote from: Evansheer;689287Geez. At least H. R. Giger's artwork is inspired just by his night terrors.  One hopes...
Oh, do you think that some of Geigers terrors isn't sexual in nature?
....
I think there is even quotes from him admitting that some of his horrors is very sexual in nature ...

And no, not caring if it is consensual or not is not evil, evil is to do something to someone who explicitly do not want it, i.e. non-consensual only.
Not Caring is not squarely evil, it is more chaotic.
Also, requiring consent is something that is very much lawful.(It is not for nothing it is one of three "laws" within S/M.)
I may not dislike D&D any longer, but I still dislike the Chaos-Lawful/Evil-Good alignment system, as well as the level system.
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#57
September 09, 2013, 09:25:52 AM Last Edit: September 09, 2013, 09:28:29 AM by Daddy Warpig
Quote from: Warthur;689215I don't want to be subjected to their ridiculous views.
You know, some days I feel this way about the entire human race.

(Occasionally even including myself, oddly enough.)
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The Ent

#58
September 09, 2013, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Benoist;689257You guys got it all wrong. It's a remake of Snoopy, the Peanuts and the Spider Face-mask from Outer Space.

Arrgh, Snoopy. The Drizzt and the Elminster of the PeanutVerse.

/rant off
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