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Update: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th edition GrimAndPerilous.com

Started by ZWEIHÄNDER, September 02, 2014, 02:03:08 PM

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ZWEIHÄNDER

EDIT:

As an update from yesterday, I spoke with Chris Birch by email. In fact, they are not announcing WFRPG 4e. This is a real shame. Good news, and potentially bad as well.

The ultimate question is this: what does Games Workshop and FFG intend to do with the license for the roleplaying game? Will Warhammer live on as Diskwars with FFG, or will we \ see systems-agnostic, supplementary material from Games Workshop?
No thanks.

Warboss Squee

Quick, raise your hand if this came as a surprise in any fashion.

Anyone?  Didn't think so.

Necrozius

I wonder if I could get a few bucks off all my 3rd ed stuff... It takes up so much damn space!!

Snowman0147

I wish they get the license.  They can do better without the board game aspects that Fantasy Flight tries to force down those RPGs.

crkrueger

Meh, Jay Little's the one who fucked up 3e, guess his "post fuckup an existing and long-running rpg license" follow-up effort didn't go as well as EP did for Rob Boyle.
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Skywalker

Wouldn't it be a lot more likely that Mophidius is planning to announce a Chronopia RPG, given the Mutant Chronicles licence?

Rincewind1

Quote from: CRKrueger;784498Meh, Jay Little's the one who fucked up 3e, guess his "post fuckup an existing and long-running rpg license" follow-up effort didn't go as well as EP did for Rob Boyle.

Yeah, I don't trust any edition of WFRP with him near helm to be back to the roots. Especially since, to be fair, the wargame itself moved about as far from the roots as heroes of Roots.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Spinachcat

WFRP 4e using the Mutant Chronicles rules? Meh.

I wasn't impressed with MC 3e. The whole KS seemed like a moneygrab to promote lots of shiny to collectors, completists and non-players who just stick more stuff on shelves. I get nice nice emails from Modiphius, but what I don't seem to find is people talking about MC actual play or any building of an actual play community.  Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.

Bad news for Zweihander though.

An "official" edition will draw away attention as the usual suspects go running toward the new GW approved shiny. Sorry German Two Handed Dude :(

Also, I have no idea WHICH Warhammer setting they would support. The original fantasy game? The original RPG? The current world of WFB? The world of the novels? Some mishmash of Warhammer-isms?

BTW, I got some great Lustria stuff from Strike to Stun years ago. That was a blast for our crew who wanted to play something different in the GW-verse. Our Lustria campaign was "Conquistadors" coming to steal gold and magic from the reawakening race of Lizardmen while competing against and avoiding the Dark Elves....and it all went really, really bad.

Fun stuff.

The Butcher

#8
Where does it say that they'll use the same system as Mutant Chronicles?

As for the off-Empire settings, yeah, it's a bit sad, but really, I thought GR did a great job with Bretonnia and the Border Princes in 2e. The Empire gazetteers were also good, though not really stellar.

What I'd like to see, whether for the Empire or elsewhere, is solid game-table-ready map-crawl material.

Ladybird

Quote from: ZWEIHÄNDER;784459With every new edition of Warhammer, there has been a distinct lack of new, sponsored content. What about Estalia? Norsca? Lustria? Halflings in Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3E? The other lands outside of the Old World? Fortunately, the Liber Fanatica and Strike to Stun communities have helped fill in the gaps, providing rich content for fans to place into their own campaign.

So what about them? Do enough people give a shit to make it worth a company's time to publish those books? Is it worth the return on investment for BI/GR/FFG?

Don't get me wrong, there's clearly an interesting setting to the east, or even the south, but the only people who have even a suggestion it exists are old-school warhammer geeks (Like, well, us). And we aren't worth that much money.

(Of course, that's even assuming GW would let outsiders write such a relatively large portion of their setting; FFG's 40k settings are all relatively small and ignorable.)
one two FUCK YOU

Skywalker

Quote from: The Butcher;784552Where does it say that they'll use the same system as Mutant Chronicles?

It doesn't even say that its WFRP4e.

jadrax

Quote from: Ladybird;784554So what about them? Do enough people give a shit to make it worth a company's time to publish those books? Is it worth the return on investment for BI/GR/FFG?

Don't get me wrong, there's clearly an interesting setting to the east, or even the south, but the only people who have even a suggestion it exists are old-school warhammer geeks (Like, well, us). And we aren't worth that much money.

(Of course, that's even assuming GW would let outsiders write such a relatively large portion of their setting; FFG's 40k settings are all relatively small and ignorable.)

'Stone and Steel' typically seems to fetch about 50 quid on ebay, and as far as I can tell most people who purchase it want it for background material for their Dwarf army. Going on that principle you could probably make money on every region that has a popular Army book.

And lets be honest here, a lot of the development is already done in the army books and novels anyway. Hell, GW can make money selling hardback books with nothing but information about uniforms in them...

Simlasa

Quote from: Ladybird;784554So what about them? Do enough people give a shit to make it worth a company's time to publish those books? Is it worth the return on investment for BI/GR/FFG?

Don't get me wrong, there's clearly an interesting setting to the east, or even the south, but the only people who have even a suggestion it exists are old-school warhammer geeks (Like, well, us). And we aren't worth that much money.
Even if they did a write-up for say... Lustria... it's not going to be based on the original Lustria stuff GW hinted at... dinosaurs and aliens and pygmies(!) amid jungle ruins of ancient technology. Instead it would be in line with whatever GW's current retconned version is... lizardmen and dark elves... designed to sell the mostest/biggest toy soldiers.
No thanks.

Dirk Remmecke

#13
Quote from: Skywalker;784500Wouldn't it be a lot more likely that Mophidius is planning to announce a Chronopia RPG, given the Mutant Chronicles licence?

That's exactly how I read that "non-announcement".

I don't see that GW would give an official Warhammer license to the company that produces the Mutant Chronicles RPG, a game line that is in direct competition with WH40K.
Swords & Wizardry & Manga ... oh my.
(Beware. This is a Kickstarter link.)

Simlasa

#14
Quote from: Skywalker;784500Wouldn't it be a lot more likely that Mophidius is planning to announce a Chronopia RPG, given the Mutant Chronicles licence?
Now THAT would be something I might be interested in... I always liked Chronopia's dark and brutal setting.