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The playtest is dead... long live the playtest!

Started by The_Rooster, August 15, 2013, 08:24:41 PM

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The_Rooster

August 15, 2013, 08:24:41 PM
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/30046093/Mid-September_will_be_the_last_public_playtest_packet

So, the latest playtest packet is what D&D Next is going to be like. I hate it already.
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Skywalker

#1
August 15, 2013, 08:28:32 PM
Public playtest that is. I expect there may still be an iteration or two of playtesting given how much of the system is still unrevealed.

The_Rooster

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August 15, 2013, 09:49:26 PM Last Edit: August 15, 2013, 10:33:57 PM by The_Rooster
Quote from: Skywalker;681859Public playtest that is. I expect there may still be an iteration or two of playtesting given how much of the system is still unrevealed.

I will be curious to see how one gets on to the private playtesting list.

I suspect that those who believe that we've been testing aspects of the system rather than a progression of the system through each playtest and that whatever system D&D 5e will end up being will be wholly different from what we've seen in any single playtest, will be proven correct. Some sort of amalgamation of concepts which I'm hoping will see proper playtesting in the private "beta".
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Rincewind1

#4
August 15, 2013, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: mhensley;681869This should be fun.

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?699248-Sept-2013-Last-DDN-Playtest-Packet

:popcorn:

I'll summarise it all with one sentence:


WHERE IS YOUR WOTC NOW, BEYOTCHEEEEEEES!
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

JonWake

#5
August 15, 2013, 10:18:32 PM
150,000 downloads, and the 4evengers insist that it's a tiny excuse for a playtest.  Jesus fuck my eye Christ.

The_Rooster

#6
August 15, 2013, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: JonWake;681872150,000 downloads, and the 4evengers insist that it's a tiny excuse for a playtest.  Jesus fuck my eye Christ.

Maybe they think that there's several hundred million D&D players out there?

Lol.
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JonWake

#7
August 15, 2013, 10:39:26 PM
Quote from: The_Rooster;681874Maybe they think that there's several hundred million D&D players out there?

Lol.

Or that the six mouthbreathing retards that constantly whine online make up a significant portion of the playerbase.

lol

Monster Manuel

#8
August 15, 2013, 10:50:40 PM
What I wonder is if the "positive feedback" takes into account the people, who like me, stopped keeping up with the downloads out of disinterest in the direction it was taking.

I'll download the last packet to see where it goes, but I probably won't play it.
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Sacrosanct

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August 15, 2013, 10:52:59 PM
Quote from: Monster Manuel;681878I'll download the last packet to see where it goes, but I probably won't play it.

That makes you no different than most of the people railing against Next then ;)
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Sacrosanct

#10
August 15, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Quote from: mhensley;681869This should be fun.

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?699248-Sept-2013-Last-DDN-Playtest-Packet

:popcorn:

I think the funniest thing is that all these people whining that it's ending never actually played it anyway over the past year and a half.  After all that time with them saying how horrible it is, maybe WoTC finally just said, "You know what?  Fuck it.  You obviously hate it so much, so we're going to stop giving it to you."

And now they whine because they aren't getting it anymore.  Man, some people...
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Monster Manuel

#11
August 15, 2013, 10:57:18 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;681879That makes you no different than most of the people railing against Next then ;)

I'm not really railing against it (any more- I had a few posts where I could be seen as doing so). If others like it, great. I just don't foresee having fun with it.
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The_Rooster

#12
August 15, 2013, 10:58:29 PM
Quote from: Monster Manuel;681878What I wonder is if the "positive feedback" takes into account the people, who like me, stopped keeping up with the downloads out of disinterest in the direction it was taking.
Honestly, I hope they pay far more attention to forum discussions than they do to the surveys. Those surveys are rubbish. The conversations on forums are far, far, far more informative and useful as feedback for the direction of the design. And I say that full-well knowing that there's a large noise-to-sound ratio in those discussions.
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flyerfan1991

#13
August 15, 2013, 10:58:36 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;681879That makes you no different than most of the people railing against Next then ;)

Well said.

The people who are interested in it are the ones providing feedback.  Sitting in the back throwing spitballs doesn't exactly work for feedback.

JonWake

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August 15, 2013, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;681879That makes you no different than most of the people railing against Next then ;)

I have to say, the burgeoning conspiracy theories about the playtest are almost as amusing as the conspiracy theories about the death of 4e.

"No, I heard that only 100 people ever responded favorably to the playtest, so the devs have been secretly importing Chinese gold farmers to fill out surveys. Of COURSE they say people are responding well. They have to, or else they'll get sent back to China!"
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