Star Wars D6 has some vocal fans on the net.  In fact, every time you say something (positive) about the D20 version, someone always seems to feel they have to pipe in with how much better D6 was, or how much better it captured the Star Wars "feel" (or just how much D20 sucks).

Now I don't begrudge these people their opinions, because I got a LOT of play time out of D6 Star Wars, and would have continued to do so if the D20 version didn't come along (especially now that the Saga version is coming out, which is making my nipples hard so far).

However, it sure seems to be hard to find that much hard evidence that Star Wars D6 has much of anything but a nostalgic presence in the real world.  There are hardly any fan sites, or active forums.  Really, on the net it's pretty hard to find any descent D6 Star Wars material at all anymore, most of the cool stuff you could find 8 years ago seems to be gone.

While many people on the internet will argue that D6 is better than D20, I've never met a "real" person who agrees, or asks me to play any version of Star Wars other than D20 in the last several years (well, since D20 came out, really).  In fact, I haven't seen a D6 Star Wars event at a con in some time (but I have seen plenty of D20 ones).

Now I'm sure someone is going to pipe in with the fact that they still play SWD6, and that's cool, but, other than in your little sphere have you seen any real activity with the game that leads you to believe it hasn't been effectively replaced by D20 (soon to be saga)?

I haven't played D6 Star Wars in years.  However I don't think it's been replaced, at least locally.  Personally I don't see anybody around here playing any version of Star Wars at all.  In my neck of the woods each had their heyday.  D6 had a bigger following, but then again it was out longer with more support material and all that.  D20 SW had a following but they've pretty much stopped playing also.

I think it's more a case of setting disinterest now.  

On the fan material.  Yeah a lot of it has vanished from the web.  There used to be a lot of material but not anymore.  Ah well.

Just my two cents and my viewpoint from my little corner of the woods.

That's pretty much it. Reminds me of d20 CoC in some respects. While I personally think the D6 version is fun and great and awesome, I have no problems with the d20 version. And, here's the kicker, I've actually played both...unlike some finger-pointers.

Seanchai

I like both versions, and I actually play/run both versions.

As for active D6 communities on the internet, there's the Rancor Pit.

D6 sucks. Its like 14 less than D20. What else needs to be said?

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Quote from: SeanchaiThat's pretty much it. Reminds me of d20 CoC in some respects. While I personally think the D6 version is fun and great and awesome, I have no problems with the d20 version. And, here's the kicker, I've actually played both...unlike some finger-pointers.

Seanchai

I played both too...own both as well.

I just cannotcannotcannot get into the class levels and the like.  I hated having to have 10 levels of Soldier to be a Bounty Hunter...just a lot of things didn't sit right with me.

I've never begrudged anyone for playing d20, though.  When it came out and my Star Wars GM bought it, I converted my character and gave it a go.

After a mind-numbingly awful session in which my character no longer really played the same way I never played again.

I now just use the d20 books for cool bits I can scrape off for all the non-existant Star Wars d6 games I'll never run.

Quote from: grubmanWhile many people on the internet will argue that D6 is better than D20, I’ve never met a “real” person who agrees, or asks me to play any version of Star Wars other than D20 in the last several years (well, since D20 came out, really).  In fact, I haven’t seen a D6 Star Wars event at a con in some time (but I have seen plenty of D20 ones).

Well, Grub, you don't live in my town, see.  'Cause if you did you'd've met me, and I'm all, like, "Yeah, I like D6 Star Wars better, all day, every day, want some lemonade?"

QuoteNow I’m sure someone is going to pipe in with the fact that they still play SWD6, and that’s cool, but, other than in your little sphere have you seen any real activity with the game that leads you to believe it hasn’t been effectively replaced by D20 (soon to be saga)?

Last Friday I went down to my Local to run a D6 Space game of my own, and lo and behold one of the dudes there had his copy of Star Wars 2nd Edition (aka "The Blue Trainwreck", but it wasn't THAT bad) with him.  And I said, "Dude, you running Star Wars?" He replied that he wasn't but someone else was.  

Yeah, I'm a vocal proponent of the D6 version over the d20 version, all day, every day.  But I'm more of a fan of people playing the games they like and not trying to convince me theirs is better than mine when I've already decided. I own, have played, and have run the d20 version (the second one, even) and have been personally dissatisfied.  A lot of what Tommy Brownell said upthread could've come from my own mouth.

Anybody playin' d20 SW...hey, man, Wang Chung.

Oh, hey, welcome back, Grubman!  Sincerely.

Quote from: peteramthorI think it's more a case of setting disinterest now.

Ironically, I've noticed a lot of older gamers (and non gamers) have lost interest since the prequils came out...while the "newer generation" is all about the kick ass kung-foo Jedi seen in those movies.

But that is just my limited experience.

I can't vouch for D6, but my group's had a ball with the D20 version. IMO, it's well developed and over it's print run developed a decent amount of support. If D20 doesn't replace it, it's a good substitute.

Quote from: grubmanIronically, I've noticed a lot of older gamers (and non gamers) have lost interest since the prequils came out...while the "newer generation" is all about the kick ass kung-foo Jedi seen in those movies.

But that is just my limited experience.

I'm part of the old school crowd that had my interest renewed when the prequels came out - not because they were any good, crap IMO - but rather because I kinda of liked the Jedi focus. Mind you my SW campaigns aren't Jedi-centric at all, but I do think there a rich mythology to mine with the Jedi. and by this I mean my own version not the crap Lucas put on film.

Now when it comes to system d6 is my poison but I had to run a d20 campaign because my crew demanded it....half way through they wanted to switch to Feng Shui (my choice) or d6, but I kinda of threw a mild hissy fit and declined...truth be told I had gotten used to d20 by then and thought why bother. Next time it's either d6 or FS...depending on the kind of game I want to run.

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David R

I've never bothered putting up websites for 99% of games I've been interested in--the only one I bothered with was Providence, mostly because I don't have time, or energy to do that beyond my own games (and my website needs to also be updated soon.)

But I still regularly play D6 Star Wars..

Quote from: grubmanIronically, I've noticed a lot of older gamers (and non gamers) have lost interest since the prequils came out...while the "newer generation" is all about the kick ass kung-foo Jedi seen in those movies.

I would be one of them.  In fact I'm one of those heathens who, because of the prequals, finds the original trilogy much worse as well.  And I was a HUGE Star Wars nut: from playing the d6 game to scouring toy stores in the mid-90's looking for the action figures.  Star Wars just lost most interest for me.

I've run lengthy campaigns with both and have played in both.  I do like D6 more than d20 Revised but wouldn't play either game again.  Both of them have too much EU influence, especially through stuff like Jedi being able to heal everyone.  I also find the games to have serious Jedi power creep and general system problems (for me, Wild Die vs. Attack escalating faster than defense in d20).

That said, I have about as easy a time finding D6 and D20 games.  D6 games are almost always being run by older roleplayers who, due to years of running it and an exceptional lineup of supplements, just don't need any online resources.  The d20 line was also pretty complete, perhaps suffering most from no updated Starships book for Revised.

The only resource I used online, in terms of mechanics, for either game was //www.swrpgnetwork.com and I highly recommend it.

I'll definitely be picking up the new SW, despite my general displeasure with the current edition.  The mechanics changes alone are worth the cost of admission for me, and if there's any game that's always an easy sell to a group it's the latest Star Wars RPG.

Quote from: C.W.RichesonI've run lengthy campaigns with both and have played in both.  I do like D6 more than d20 Revised but wouldn't play either game again.  Both of them have too much EU influence, especially through stuff like Jedi being able to heal everyone.  

Ah, you mean the stuff I ignore?

I rarely get any Jedi in my games, come to think - they end up being more Solo-types than Mace Windu-types.  Jedi are cool, but mostly I've had players want to play smugglers and ne'er-do-wells-with-hearts-of-gold than anything.  :shrug: Go fig.

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Ah, you mean the stuff I ignore?

I rarely get any Jedi in my games, come to think - they end up being more Solo-types than Mace Windu-types.  Jedi are cool, but mostly I've had players want to play smugglers and ne'er-do-wells-with-hearts-of-gold than anything.  :shrug: Go fig.

*nods*

My games used to be more like that 10 years ago, but most folk I've met in the last 3 years or so have wanted to play Jedi.  I think it's due in at least a small part to the prequels heavy focus on Jedi and a general lack of a Solo-type character.

With the Jedi aside my complaints then would be the Wild Die and Critical hits in d6 and d20 respectively.  The Wild Die is a fine idea, but in practice I've seen too many GMs use it as an excuse for extremely silliness 1 in 6 rolls that just destroys the Star Wars feel.  I watched critical hits in d20 result in one hit kills more than once, and it was a little frustrating.

Both of those things are, of course, subject to house rules