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Palladium Books Begging for Cash Again

Started by Abraxus, March 23, 2019, 11:19:51 PM

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Abraxus

March 23, 2019, 11:19:51 PM
https://www.palladiumbooks.com/about-palladium/weekly-updates/1072-palladium-books-weekly-update-march-22-2019

While likely going to make the same mistakes they have made over the past few years. While learning nothing except not using Kickstarter. So they can publish the new material one or two years late if ever. While pocketing the money for something else. Yes I don't trust them as a company.

VincentTakeda

#1
March 24, 2019, 12:49:06 AM
although I thought the youtube interview was all softball questions and sunshine, I certainly dont discourage him from doing more of that kinda stuff. Dude needs to rejoin the community instead of hiding out so damn much.

Abraxus

#2
March 24, 2019, 01:43:36 AM
If it would actually mean a step in the right direction I would agree. Instead even with the extra money chances are good nothing will change. Instead his new scheme is to not use Kickstarter because he blew up thst bridge and no restrictions or accountability. After all kevin could hide behind  the "no one forced any of you to send me money "  routine.

Either he holds the fans in utter contempt or too stupid or both to try asking them (beg for cash ) to pay for the books. Or worse desperate.  As I cannot see why he would go back and beg the fans for money. Especially  after royally screwing over and ripping off so many of them.

Spinachcat

#3
March 24, 2019, 02:16:36 AM
Here is the deal Palladium is offering
http://palladium-store.com/1001/category/Megaverse-Insider.html

TL;DR - you can pay PB money to put your name in the book, or get a character in the book named after you.

I imagine the Rifts Bestiary books will do well. It's a Monster Manual in two volumes. I have the other "monster" books for Rifts and they were highly creative.

Ratman_tf

#4
March 24, 2019, 02:52:04 AM
Anyone who gives money to Palladium books for anything other than a physical book on a shelf is a damn fool.
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Abraxus

#5
March 24, 2019, 10:35:11 AM
Even than the Bestiary is mostly recycled rehash from as many existing resources as possible. From existing Rifters, sourcebooks etc. It's one thing to beg for cash for new material. It's another for a book that contains mostly rehash and shows both PB and by extension that Kevin has absolutely no shame.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1080499Anyone who gives money to Palladium books for anything other than a physical book on a shelf is a damn fool.

At this point anyone who does suffers from some kind of mental illness or a glutton for punishment. Knowing the company poor publication history and still throwing money at them is being a damn fool.

Abraxus

#6
March 24, 2019, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: sureshot;1080539Even than the Bestiary is mostly recycled rehash from as many existing resources as possible. From existing Rifters, sourcebooks etc. It's one thing to beg for cash for new material. It's another for a book that contains mostly rehash and shows both PB and by extension that Kevin has absolutely no shame.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1080499Anyone who gives money to Palladium books for anything other than a physical book on a shelf is a damn fool.

At this point anyone who does suffers from some kind of mental illness or a glutton for punishment. Knowing the company poor publication history and still throwing money at them is being a damn fool.

Christopher Brady

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March 24, 2019, 12:55:57 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1080499Anyone who gives money to Palladium books for anything other than a physical book on a shelf is a damn fool.

You mean any company there, chief.
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Ratman_tf

#8
March 24, 2019, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1080550You mean any company there, chief.

Nope. Reaper did a kickstarter for their Bones line, and finished it as promised.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Trond

#9
March 24, 2019, 01:21:12 PM
What happened with Kickstarter?

Christopher Brady

#10
March 24, 2019, 01:42:31 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1080552Nope. Reaper did a kickstarter for their Bones line, and finished it as promised.

If I remember correctly, they were also very, very late.  Again, the issue is that trusting ANY company before you have their product in your hand runs the risk of having your money taken.  It doesn't matter the record of success, don't buy promises, buy products.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

Ratman_tf

#11
March 24, 2019, 02:08:46 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1080556If I remember correctly, they were also very, very late.

I hadn't heard. AFAIK they got it done on time.

QuoteAgain, the issue is that trusting ANY company before you have their product in your hand runs the risk of having your money taken.  It doesn't matter the record of success, don't buy promises, buy products.

In Reaper's case, they had a solid plan to retool their metal line to produce plastic Bones versions, and they used Kickstarter to hasten the already-underway process. A far cry from Palladium, with a track record of not delivering, being late, and generally being the company of innane nerd drama, begging for cash repeatedly to cover their poor business decisions.
While any participating in kickstarter is a gamble, some gambles have better odds than others.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Ratman_tf

#12
March 24, 2019, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Trond;1080553What happened with Kickstarter?

Palladium? The Robotech RPG Tactics kickstarter was a predictable failure for Palladium Books.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399
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Trond

#13
March 24, 2019, 02:21:14 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1080562Palladium? The Robotech RPG Tactics kickstarter was a predictable failure for Palladium Books.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399

Thanks! Palladium is always such a dumpster fire, I can hardly think of an RPG company with a worse reputation.

WARDUKE

#14
March 24, 2019, 02:51:52 PM
I won't buy another thing from Palladium after the Robotech Kickstarter debacle.
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