Quote from: Broken-Serenity;570378If not i fully intend to make some coz that sounds like a cool idea!

See, that's the kind of thinking I like to see.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;570361It's a Kickstarter.  Fanboys will gather around it like moths.

I've been impressed with Cook's work since Dark Space. Which is more longevity than most game designers have. He hasn't ever disappointed me. Where better to dedicate my money? Spend it on a game designers I *don't* respect?

Quote from: Tetsubo;570403I've been impressed with Cook's work since Dark Space.

You're a perfect customer for Kickstarter then.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;570361It's a Kickstarter.  Fanboys will gather around it like moths.

This is probably sort of true, but just less than a month ago, Monte couldn't raise 6K for his part of the Lamentations of the Flame Princess campaign; actually it din't reach more than 1600$. That's probably what this new project received in its first hour.

So it looks like most fanboys still looks beyond the name on the cover.

It sounds like a very exciting project. I've been a big fan of Monte and everything he's written. I have complete confidence that Numenera will be a good solid system!

Quote from: Sean !;569209It's a question of timing and confidence - he knows Numenera will be seen as his reaction to working on 5e so he's bound to go all out to make the game count. He's making all the right noises e.g. intuitive simplicity of design, the symbiosis of rules and setting. He makes good choices - checkout the art on the website.

There's a narrowing window of opportunity (even for a 'name' designer) before the Kickstarter glut bloats out and projects start getting lost in the constant buzz, so I hope he succeeds on KS.

Well he won't have to work too hard considering from what I see of 5E so far - it's gonna fall flat on its ass.

Quote from: flyingcircus;572088Well he won't have to work too hard considering from what I see of 5E so far - it's gonna fall flat on its ass.

at the very least, it'll miss whatever sales targets hasbro sets, IMO

Quote from: beeber;572102at the very least, it'll miss whatever sales targets hasbro sets, IMO

Ain't that the truth.

Quote from: beeber;572102at the very least, it'll miss whatever sales targets hasbro sets, IMO

What it actually needs to do is be a marked improvement, sales-wise, over 4e.

Actually, more accurately, the overall strategy of WoTC now has to be a marked improvement, sales-wise, over the 4e period. If the combo of "5e + reprints + PDFs available + good public relations + whatever other trick they have up their sleeve" beats out the old model of "4e + semi-functioning online project + no PDFs + scare or insult away 2/3rds of their customer base", then they'll be good.

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the reprints seem to have won over a small segment of the OSR type folks.  since my 1e stuff is still in good to decent shape, they're irrelevant to me.  the only "good PR" to sway one like myself would be the PDFs, no subscription required--and i wonder if that will be the case or not, honestly.  

but the amount of dinero i'd be sending WotC is minimal anyway.  i'm certainly not their target audience.

Quote from: RPGPundit;573092Actually, more accurately, the overall strategy of WoTC now has to be a marked improvement, sales-wise, over the 4e period. If the combo of "5e + reprints + PDFs available + good public relations + whatever other trick they have up their sleeve" beats out the old model of "4e + semi-functioning online project + no PDFs + scare or insult away 2/3rds of their customer base", then they'll be good.

The big question is whether those reprints and PDF releases will provide a better return than the online subscription - their costs will be minimal, but there will probably be a large spike in initial sales with a sharp decline afterwards, versus the relatively stable (In both costs and sales) online tools, but with far larger up-front costs.

Let's see how it goes. I think they'd be leaving money on the table if they don't offer some form of subscription service, and hopefully they'll do it properly this time. They'll have learnt a lot about the 4e publication model, what worked and what didn't, and 5e's publication model will be very strongly influenced by those lessons.

But they won't repeat the "3e was never fun, please ignore the fact that the common factor in every 3e game - that was never fun, remember - was the ruleset we published".