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Industry Event: Former Steve Jackson Games CEO gone

Started by Cathode Ray, October 22, 2023, 04:08:29 AM

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Brad

Quote from: Kage2020 on October 25, 2023, 02:00:01 AM
Beyond the absolute misunderstanding of what "gender" is, I'm kinda just pointing my post and wondering about everything.

Kinda sounds like you're bringing the politics in here?

Oh, one of those guys...
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Kage2020

Quote from: Brad on October 25, 2023, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: Kage2020 on October 25, 2023, 02:00:01 AM
Beyond the absolute misunderstanding of what "gender" is, I'm kinda just pointing my post and wondering about everything.

Kinda sounds like you're bringing the politics in here?

Oh, one of those guys...
In my defense I should not have posted late at night when I was clearly too tired to make any real sense. My bad. While I might have made sense in my head at that time of night, it certainly doesn't make sense to me now.

I will just have to agree to disagree about what gender means. I know what it means from the anthropology side of the world and it is not a synonym for biological sex. Politicians have been mis-using it, particularly those on the right, for decades. Whether that makes it the de facto definition or not is up for grabs, but it would probably explain why there is confusion on the matter.

GURPS and 3rd Party Adventures
My impression is that (a) they don't sell very well, given that GURPS'er tend work with bespoke settings, and (b) there isn't a huge interest in writing them.

"Major releases"...
Is 4e Vehicles the only thing that would count as a major release? Or does that mean something that they push to dead tree and not just PDF? Genuinely interested here in part because I was "forced" to go PDF a long time ago so for me that is more representative of active publishing then a dead tree version that I'm not going to buy anyway.
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Exploderwizard

Quote from: Kage2020 on October 25, 2023, 07:43:50 PM


GURPS and 3rd Party Adventures
My impression is that (a) they don't sell very well, given that GURPS'er tend work with bespoke settings, and (b) there isn't a huge interest in writing them.

"Major releases"...
Is 4e Vehicles the only thing that would count as a major release? Or does that mean something that they push to dead tree and not just PDF? Genuinely interested here in part because I was "forced" to go PDF a long time ago so for me that is more representative of active publishing then a dead tree version that I'm not going to buy anyway.

Well the fact that they don't sell in huge numbers is the primary reason to let 3rd party publishers do so and take all the risk. Heck even pdf publishing would be fine. They don't really support fantasy anymore beyond high point total dungeon crawls. Back in 90's when I had free time, I didn't give a shit. Now with limited prep time since there are no adventures I just play classic D&D. It is the only thing I have time to run. People who do not have time to prep and run a game do not promote it. Eventually the game just dies.
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David Johansen

#33
They do license the one guy to do support stuff.  Daniel or Douglas Cole?  I think, maybe?  His setting is called Nordland.
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Cathode Ray

Quote from: Kage2020 on October 25, 2023, 07:43:50 PM
In my defense I should not have posted late at night when I was clearly too tired to make any real sense. My bad. While I might have made sense in my head at that time of night, it certainly doesn't make sense to me now.

I will just have to agree to disagree about what gender means. I know what it means from the anthropology side of the world and it is not a synonym for biological sex. Politicians have been mis-using it, particularly those on the right, for decades.

No, I don't agree to disagree on facts.  The right are the politicians actually getting it RIGHT.   the left are the ones who recently changed the definition into an artificial construct with no basis in science.  The idea that gender is something else is based purely on ideology, and is a science denial on the most fundamental level.  Anyone trying to assert an affront on this scale to such a basic fundamental truth, as one's gender is subject to opinion, not science, is to be written off as untrustworthy.  I'll be dismissing any of your future posts outright, reserving my time here for credible members.

On the way to this thread, I also saw a few posts where you engage in political grandstanding and asserting intolerances in matters unrelated to gaming, while in this thread wrongfully accusing me of doing so.  There's a word for people who admonish people for things they do themselves.
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Aglondir

Is there any evidence that Meredith Placko is woke? I didn't get that from her webpage, or her demo reel.

https://www.meredithplacko.com/about
https://www.meredithplacko.com/videos

Cathode Ray

#36
keeps double-posting.  Disregard this and proceed to the the next one
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Cathode Ray

#37
Quote from: David Johansen on October 25, 2023, 08:19:02 PM
They do license the one guy to do support stuff.  Daniel or Douglas Cole?  I think, maybe?  His setting is called Nordland.

That is correct.



Quote from: Aglondir on October 25, 2023, 10:29:31 PM
Is there any evidence that Meredith Placko is woke? I didn't get that from her webpage, or her demo reel.

https://www.meredithplacko.com/about
https://www.meredithplacko.com/videos

Besides being a regular on TYT, some posts on her X feed are off the deep end.  Like I said before, I don't care if an employee as a certain political view, even an extremist one, but I'm just wondering, in the light of SJ officially announcing that the company itself was pro-abortion, if her views were a part of her hiring, or if the other members were let go based on views they may have held.  If that did happen, those are not just practices.
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Kage2020

Quote from: ExploderwizardWell the fact that they don't sell in huge numbers is the primary reason to let 3rd party publishers do so and take all the risk. Heck even pdf publishing would be fine. They don't really support fantasy anymore beyond high point total dungeon crawls. Back in 90's when I had free time, I didn't give a shit. Now with limited prep time since there are no adventures I just play classic D&D.
I can certainly empathise to a degree. Maybe it's laziness on my behalf or whatever, but I have always liked running a pre-published adventure for each new game/system that I've fun.

Quote from: ExploderwizardIt is the only thing I have time to run. People who do not have time to prep and run a game do not promote it. Eventually the game just dies.
Totally reasonable. My only push-back here is the (?anecdotal?) note that GURPS users generally work with bespoke settings. This might suggest that they're more interested in publications that deal with specific treatments rather than general adventures?

I know that, personally, I get more from from the rules treatments and examples. After all, in the modern world I can just go to ChatGPT (or whatever) to get inspiration for an adventure (not that I would use it as generated).

Quote from: David JohansenThey do license the one guy to do support stuff.  Daniel or Douglas Cole?  I think, maybe?  His setting is called Nordland.
Someone else up-thread confirmed this, but yes. My limited understanding of the situation was that DC had a long-standing relationship with SJGamesGURPS they did this?

Quote from: Cathode RayNo, I don't agree to disagree on facts.  The right are the politicians actually getting it RIGHT.   the left are the ones who recently changed the definition into an artificial construct with no basis in science. 
Sorry, dude. You're totally wrong on the science. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I suspect that your use of "science" is predicated more on the biological angle that, while more complex than the male/female biological duality, is certainly a thing.

Historically, gender as intersectional between biology and culture even before genetics got all weird has been a thing for thousands of years. You can just Google it.

Quote from: Cathode RayI'll be dismissing any of your future posts outright, reserving my time here for credible members.
FWIW, I came here to escape the "leftist" wonkism of RPG.net/TRO. Your statements seem to make it clear that this is more for hard right-leaning conversation.

Quote from: Cathode RayOn the way to this thread, I also saw a few posts where you engage in political grandstanding and asserting intolerances in matters unrelated to gaming, while in this thread wrongfully accusing me of doing so.  There's a word for people who admonish people for things they do themselves.
The lady doth protest too much.

Have fun.
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Kage2020 on October 25, 2023, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: Brad on October 25, 2023, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: Kage2020 on October 25, 2023, 02:00:01 AM
Beyond the absolute misunderstanding of what "gender" is, I'm kinda just pointing my post and wondering about everything.

Kinda sounds like you're bringing the politics in here?

Oh, one of those guys...
In my defense I should not have posted late at night when I was clearly too tired to make any real sense. My bad. While I might have made sense in my head at that time of night, it certainly doesn't make sense to me now.

I will just have to agree to disagree about what gender means. I know what it means from the anthropology side of the world and it is not a synonym for biological sex. Politicians have been mis-using it, particularly those on the right, for decades. Whether that makes it the de facto definition or not is up for grabs, but it would probably explain why there is confusion on the matter.

I avoid using the term at all. Unless specifically talking about the term itself. I use the word "sex" now, and if someone wants to digress about gender, I leave them to it. I'm not interested in discussing gender topics.
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Aglondir

Quote from: Cathode Ray on October 25, 2023, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on October 25, 2023, 08:19:02 PM
They do license the one guy to do support stuff.  Daniel or Douglas Cole?  I think, maybe?  His setting is called Nordland.

That is correct.



Quote from: Aglondir on October 25, 2023, 10:29:31 PM
Is there any evidence that Meredith Placko is woke? I didn't get that from her webpage, or her demo reel.

https://www.meredithplacko.com/about
https://www.meredithplacko.com/videos

Besides being a regular on TYT, some posts on her X feed are off the deep end.  Like I said before, I don't care if an employee as a certain political view, even an extremist one, but I'm just wondering, in the light of SJ officially announcing that the company itself was pro-abortion, if her views were a part of her hiring, or if the other members were let go based on views they may have held.  If that did happen, those are not just practices.

Thanks. X won't let me see feeds (don't have an account.)

Cathode Ray

Quote from: Aglondir on October 26, 2023, 12:17:46 AM
Thanks. X won't let me see feeds (don't have an account.)

I undertstand.  They changed it recently.  I think it;s one of the minority the changes they made in the wrong direction since Elon bought it.
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Exploderwizard

Quote from: Kage2020 on October 25, 2023, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: ExploderwizardWell the fact that they don't sell in huge numbers is the primary reason to let 3rd party publishers do so and take all the risk. Heck even pdf publishing would be fine. They don't really support fantasy anymore beyond high point total dungeon crawls. Back in 90's when I had free time, I didn't give a shit. Now with limited prep time since there are no adventures I just play classic D&D.
I can certainly empathise to a degree. Maybe it's laziness on my behalf or whatever, but I have always liked running a pre-published adventure for each new game/system that I've fun.

Quote from: ExploderwizardIt is the only thing I have time to run. People who do not have time to prep and run a game do not promote it. Eventually the game just dies.
Totally reasonable. My only push-back here is the (?anecdotal?) note that GURPS users generally work with bespoke settings. This might suggest that they're more interested in publications that deal with specific treatments rather than general adventures?

I know that, personally, I get more from from the rules treatments and examples. After all, in the modern world I can just go to ChatGPT (or whatever) to get inspiration for an adventure (not that I would use it as generated).

Heh. I got tons of adventure ideas. It is building the stats for the NPCs that take the time.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

GeekyBugle

I wonder if SJG, Goodperson Games and all the wother woketards have removed their support for Burn Loot Murder after the revelation that BLM stands for the genocide of the Jews?

Edit: Typo.
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THE_Leopold

Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 26, 2023, 01:20:35 PM
I wonder if SJG, Goodperson Games and all the wother woketards have removed their support for Burn Loot Murder after the revelation that BLM stands for the genocide of the Jews?

Edit: Typo.

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