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Industry Event: Former Steve Jackson Games CEO gone

Started by Cathode Ray, October 22, 2023, 04:08:29 AM

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David Johansen

#60
October 28, 2023, 02:06:18 PM
Or HERO even but the difficulty basically remains that GURPS fans want GURPS. Which is why I've played around with the idea a lot but never really stuck with it or gone forward.
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GeekyBugle

#61
October 28, 2023, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on October 28, 2023, 02:06:18 PM
Or HERO even but the difficulty basically remains that GURPS fans want GURPS. Which is why I've played around with the idea a lot but never really stuck with it or gone forward.

But Hero isn't open, yes GURPS fans will stick to it, so why not try and make something sorta like it but not it for others?

Go ahead and fix whatever you feel needs fixing, then market it to others not to GURPS fans.
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BadApple

#62
October 28, 2023, 04:55:37 PM
Cepheus Engine is going strong.  I think there's a lot of room for an open source GURPS.
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Melichor

#63
October 28, 2023, 05:24:34 PM
Quote from: BadApple on October 28, 2023, 11:49:16 AM
You could even go so far as to rewrite their system as long as you do it in your own words.  Terms for game mechanics are not copyrightable, btw.   

However, game mechanics can be patented:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5662332A/en

And terms and symbols can be trademarked.

BadApple

#64
October 28, 2023, 05:36:20 PM
Quote from: Melichor on October 28, 2023, 05:24:34 PM
Quote from: BadApple on October 28, 2023, 11:49:16 AM
You could even go so far as to rewrite their system as long as you do it in your own words.  Terms for game mechanics are not copyrightable, btw.   

However, game mechanics can be patented:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5662332A/en

And terms and symbols can be trademarked.

There's been more than one court case that shows that you cannot lock down game mechanics.  The latest I'm aware of is DaVinci Editrice S.R.L. vs. Ziko Games, LLC. 

Symbols can be protected by trademark but terms and phrases are generally not unless it's a brand name or very unique.
>Blade Runner RPG
Terrible idea, overwhelming majority of ttrpg players can't pass Voight-Kampff test.
    - Anonymous

David Johansen

#65
October 28, 2023, 07:57:15 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on October 28, 2023, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: David Johansen on October 28, 2023, 02:06:18 PM
Or HERO even but the difficulty basically remains that GURPS fans want GURPS. Which is why I've played around with the idea a lot but never really stuck with it or gone forward.

But Hero isn't open, yes GURPS fans will stick to it, so why not try and make something sorta like it but not it for others?

Go ahead and fix whatever you feel needs fixing, then market it to others not to GURPS fans.

Well, I already have Galaxies In Shadow and the Arcane Confabulation to scratch my own particular itches by myself in the dark y'know?  Really, I've written a ton of games including a few fairly direct ripoffs like Grimmer and Darker or spins on concepts like A Fantasy Game which is basically how I'd do Tunnels and Trolls.

What I've been fiddling with for Open 3d6 is a way for people to do their own thing and have cross compatability.  So, significantly looser than Cephus Engine in some ways but tightly compatible in the sense that things move pretty directly across due to some core assumptions.  I don't know, I like impossible projects I guess.  :D
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Exploderwizard

#66
October 29, 2023, 10:03:18 AM
Nothing wrong with impossible projects. The impossibility makes them more challenging, thus more rewarding if you can actually pull them off.  :)
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Cathode Ray

#67
October 29, 2023, 11:00:19 AM
My personal The Fantasy Trip clone eschews the 3d6 systerm for 2d12, but it works the same.  I just like d12s.  I analyzed the math and statistics, and charted a fairly accurate translation between TFT/GURPS and my own fantasy game, which I call Parallel Realms.
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bendis

#68
October 29, 2023, 02:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dracones on October 24, 2023, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: bendis on October 24, 2023, 11:25:39 AM
Will they finally stop being anal about stopping people from automating their incredibly cumbersome system?

I think they eased up on that the last several years. Today there's GCS/GCA for making characters and VTT's like Foundry have rulesets and can import from those systems.

The foundry module requires you to read a guide on how to manually add a lot of automation features and as far as I know still doesn't have proper ammo tracking because that stuff is still off limits.
And while GCS works for character building it sucks for tracking resources; compare with something like Shadowrun, another cumbersome system, that does resource tracking a lot better.

zer0th

#69
October 29, 2023, 02:36:29 PM
One of the Foundry tools developers have a Youtube channel with some tutorials. https://www.youtube.com/@chrisnormand

Zalman

#70
October 30, 2023, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on October 29, 2023, 11:00:19 AM
I just like d12s.

Objectively, the best die!
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FASAfan

#71
October 30, 2023, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on October 25, 2023, 01:45:32 AM
You miss the point.  It's not about the girl.  It's about the report of a sudden end for two high-ranking members of the staff.  And if you make it about the girl, it's not even about her being a girl...  Amazing it has to be stated: No one cares about her gender or has an issue with it.  It's an observation about her politics in relationship to a pattern of political extremism that came out of the company lately.

I was taught that the term "gender" referred to grammar (nouns) and the term "sex" was used in science - and don't mix the two.

I stand behind this even though a male aviatrix and a female actor are perfect acceptable now...

Maybe teachers got tired of the Sex: Yes! answer from students...

Cathode Ray

#72
October 30, 2023, 11:05:26 PM
Quote from: FASAfan on October 30, 2023, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on October 25, 2023, 01:45:32 AM
You miss the point.  It's not about the girl.  It's about the report of a sudden end for two high-ranking members of the staff.  And if you make it about the girl, it's not even about her being a girl...  Amazing it has to be stated: No one cares about her gender or has an issue with it.  It's an observation about her politics in relationship to a pattern of political extremism that came out of the company lately.

I was taught that the term "gender" referred to grammar (nouns) and the term "sex" was used in science - and don't mix the two.

I stand behind this even though a male aviatrix and a female actor are perfect acceptable now...

Maybe teachers got tired of the Sex: Yes! answer from students...

When I went to school, i never got to use sex in science.
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Klava

#73
October 31, 2023, 02:45:27 AM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on October 29, 2023, 11:00:19 AM
My personal The Fantasy Trip clone eschews the 3d6 systerm for 2d12, but it works the same.  I just like d12s.  I analyzed the math and statistics, and charted a fairly accurate translation between TFT/GURPS and my own fantasy game, which I call Parallel Realms.

was that published somewhere? google just returns links to a mobile game of some kind >_>
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Cathode Ray

#74
October 31, 2023, 06:52:25 AM
Quote from: Klava on October 31, 2023, 02:45:27 AM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on October 29, 2023, 11:00:19 AM
My personal The Fantasy Trip clone eschews the 3d6 systerm for 2d12, but it works the same.  I just like d12s.  I analyzed the math and statistics, and charted a fairly accurate translation between TFT/GURPS and my own fantasy game, which I call Parallel Realms.

was that published somewhere? google just returns links to a mobile game of some kind >_>

I didn't publish my rules, and they are kind of a draft, as I play with them, but I could finish fleshing them out,write it in a way others understand it, and publish it as official rules. 

Right now, I'm writing a bestiary of 1980s creatures for Radical High, so I'll need some time. Please be patient.
Creator of Radical High, a 1980s RPG.
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