In case I've missed some - What OSR games have the best rules in your opinion?

The Exploited. · October 12, 2017, 07:21:47 PM

Quote from: Voros;1000122I'll second Asen on The Nightmares Underneath.

The single most impressive rule set based on D&D for me continues to be The White Hack, I think it has only been held back because the designer has made it available as hardcopy only via Lulu.

Obviously anything by Kevin Crawford is quality stuff, if you haven't checked out at least the free no-art version of Godbound yet you definitely should do so. The aforementioned single player/single DM system Scarlet Heroes is also excellent.

The Black Hack is cheap, fast and popular with lots of hack variations springing up every day. A stripped down D&D where the GM largely doesn't roll, it also has the advantage of pissing off Pundit who now also has a personal beef with David Black.

Thanks Voros! I have the Nightmares Underneath in the cart as well.

Shame White Hack is not available as a pdf. I'll have to pick up the dead tree version.

I've seen Scarlet Heroes and Godbound but I didn't realize there was a free version of Godbound (nice!). And I've heard good stuff about SHs so that's another one. I didn't realize it was based around solo gaming either. That's cool... Great for when a few players can't make it, etc.

The Exploited. · October 12, 2017, 07:22:23 PM

Quote from: Simlasa;1000125Odd... I bought it, read it, thought it was cool... but I don't remember thinking it was much like D&D.
I was mostly interested in the setting though...

My favorites are DCC and LotFP.

Can't go wrong with DCC or LotFP!

Kiero · October 12, 2017, 08:15:37 PM

Quote from: saskganesh;1000060ACKS. Integrated economy makes for a solid base for world building. You know how much a petty lord makes and you know who can afford to buy a dragon carcass. Useful shit like that.

This.

Furthermore, it's mass combat system, Domains@War gives you what is essentially a plug-in/standalone wargame you can use with any OSR system.

Dumarest · October 12, 2017, 09:12:38 PM

Q: In case I've missed some - What OSR games have the best rules in your opinion?

A: Are you using "OSR" to mean "D&D variants"?

Willie the Duck · October 12, 2017, 10:11:24 PM

Quote from: Larsdangly;1000118There are a lot, that's for sure. Do people think the genre is saturated or is there space for more new systems of this type?

Saturated is a hard thing to judge. I think that the market is 'full,' such that a newcomers is probably just going to bite into the existing market share. I also think all of the low hanging fruit, as well as the clear-and-obvious second tier of branches have all be picked. To make something new, one would really have to find a specific niche that you think has not been explored.

Just Another Snake Cult · October 13, 2017, 01:24:25 AM

I like all of them to one degree or another. Yes, ALL of them.

Lamentations of the Flame Princess stands tall above the rest in terms of consistent quality and ambition. But Nightmares Underneath is really unique and underrated and easily deserves all the accolades it's getting here. Warriors of the Red Planet is also really, really good, a world-class example of a customizable "Toolkit" game. But..if you put a gun to my head and forced me to pick, my choice would be Crypts and Things. First edition. I haven't picked up the second yet because the first was already so close to perfection that I didn't see how it could be improved upon.

artikid · October 13, 2017, 02:03:51 AM

OSRIC and BFRPG

Dave 2 · October 13, 2017, 02:59:09 AM

ACKS for the economics and domain-game back end.

LotFP for the d6 thief skills. Also, Summon is going in every version of D&D I run from here on out.

Whitehack I thought was overhyped the first time I looked at it, but I'm warming up to it as a chassis for when you want a D&D'ish rule base in a non-D&D setting. My first reaction was due to not being in the market to change a lot in my baseline D&D.

Wolf-Packs and Winter Snow is a shining example of what you can do when you're willing to tie the rules to the setting. You wouldn't use it for anything but ice age D&D, but if you happen to want ice age D&D it's outstanding.

Anything by Sine Nomine for the back-chapter random charts, though I don't run the rulesets themselves.

Christopher Brady · October 13, 2017, 03:50:19 AM

BFRPG? Basic Fantasy?

The Exploited. · October 13, 2017, 06:33:18 AM

Quote from: Dumarest;1000203Q: In case I've missed some - What OSR games have the best rules in your opinion?

A: Are you using "OSR" to mean "D&D variants"?

I suppose I'm thinking of D&D variants.

The Exploited. · October 13, 2017, 06:38:40 AM

Quote from: Dave R;1000281ACKS for the economics and domain-game back end.

LotFP for the d6 thief skills. Also, Summon is going in every version of D&D I run from here on out.

Whitehack I thought was overhyped the first time I looked at it, but I'm warming up to it as a chassis for when you want a D&D'ish rule base in a non-D&D setting. My first reaction was due to not being in the market to change a lot in my baseline D&D.

Wolf-Packs and Winter Snow is a shining example of what you can do when you're willing to tie the rules to the setting. You wouldn't use it for anything but ice age D&D, but if you happen to want ice age D&D it's outstanding.

Anything by Sine Nomine for the back-chapter random charts, though I don't run the rulesets themselves.

Ta! I'm hearing lots of good stuff about ACKS.

Wolf-Packs and Winter Snow looks pretty interesting, although I generally wouldn't be too interested in prehistoric stuff per se. But it sounds like they've put an interesting slant on it. Plus it only 4e!

The Exploited. · October 13, 2017, 06:42:06 AM

Quote from: artikid;1000278OSRIC and BFRPG

Thanks, I've heard of OSRIC but I don't know all that much about it. Is it like the original basic D&D?

artikid · October 13, 2017, 07:31:01 AM

OSRIC is a clone of AD&D 1e.

And yes, BFRPG stands for Basic Fantasy rpg.

And although those are my favorite, Sine Nomine produces some of the best stuff in all the Old School.

The Exploited. · October 13, 2017, 07:36:02 AM

Quote from: artikid;1000309OSRIC is a clone of AD&D 1e.

And yes, BFRPG stands for Basic Fantasy rpg.

And although those are my favorite, Sine Nomine produces some of the best stuff in all the Old School.

Cheers for the info'.

SN are class btw!

estar · October 13, 2017, 08:12:16 AM

Quote from: The Exploited.;1000146Thanks mate. Majestic Widerlands is in the cart on Drivethru. Sounds like a lot of info crammed into 140 pages.

Appreciate the business. I try to oblige when it comes to content.