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In case I've missed some - What OSR games have the best rules in your opinion?

Started by The Exploited., October 12, 2017, 11:26:53 AM

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The Exploited.

Quote from: ligedog;1000599AS&SH with a bullet - the cleanest synthesis of AD&D and B/X available plus it has an awesome setting what more could you want?

This is a great RPG! I recently bought the 2e!
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The Exploited.

Quote from: RunningLaser;1000413Chris, you can go here.

Thanks for the link!
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The Exploited.

Quote from: Dumarest;1000428Is Apes Victorious "Planet of the Apes D&D"? If so, that sounds pretty awesome.

That sounds great... I do like a bit of Retrofuture horror! Thanks!
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Chainsaw

Swords & Wizardry White Box - light, fast and fun early clone of OD&D that I still love

OSRIC - very faithful AD&D clone (close as legally possible), perfect table complement to my 1E books (remember, originally a only vehicle to publish 1E modules, though it has now become a great resource on its own)

Astonishing Swordsmen & Sorcerers of Hyperborea (AS&SH) - game of choice now, love it as a sword, sorcery, horror, weird fantasy, de-tolkienized AD&D

crkrueger

Nightmares Underneath is interesting.  Think they're pushing it more than a little with the "Old School Roleplaying Game" though.
Yeah, sure the basic engine is powered by the OSR, the entire rest of the game looks like pure new school PbtA meta-thinking.

Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, there's some cool stuff in here, this makes for some good reading. I'm enjoying it so far.
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Simlasa

Quote from: CRKrueger;1000663Nightmares Underneath is interesting.  Think they're pushing it more than a little with the "Old School Roleplaying Game" though.
Yeah, sure the basic engine is powered by the OSR, the entire rest of the game looks like pure new school PbtA meta-thinking.
Maybe that's why I couldn't see the D&D of it... but I like the setting and 'feel' of it... I bought some of the other stuff by them that is dual statted... and I doubt I'll have much trouble turning it to use with a favored system. I think I'd join it up with Astulae as a wider multiversal expanse.

AsenRG

Quote from: Simlasa;1000667Maybe that's why I couldn't see the D&D of it... but I like the setting and 'feel' of it... I bought some of the other stuff by them that is dual statted... and I doubt I'll have much trouble turning it to use with a favored system. I think I'd join it up with Astulae as a wider multiversal expanse.

Funny enough, the setting is the thing I like the least about Nightmares Underneath, and the reason why it's not higher on my list.
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Quote from: The Exploited.;1000050My top picks so far are:

Beyond the Wall (overall vibe and slick rules).
Night Owl Workshop - The guys that did Freebooters (I've picked up their whole line!).
Other Dust (actually, I love all of SNP).
Dark Albion has to go in here - With Appendix P!
Sabres and Witchery.
Fantastic Heroes & Witchery
DCC.
C&C.
From the Vats - Their stuff that is basically D&D BX in a very small set of books.

ASSH2e (I love the vibe but I'm not mad on those old school minuscule increments that thieves have for their skills).
LoTFP (more for the supplements rather then the rules).

Anything I've missed or that are worth grabbing?

Thanks!


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From all the stuff mentioned, I only really know of LotFP - and I generally like it a lot, both the vibe and the rules (magic, specialist skills et all), but...

Every time I played it, I've had issues with the whiff factor in combat. Low attack bonus combined with a high(er) basic armor class (plus armor + the option of defensive fighting...) leads to really long fight with (almost) endless "roll to hit - miss. Roll to hit - miss. Roll to hit - miss. Roll to hit - miss. Et fucking cetera".

Is this a general issue with these rule sets or are there some of the mentioned, that does combat differently/swifter?
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I love the single saving throw. It's a great baseline to use for ability checks and class customization via specific bonuses. AKA, I can get all the variation from multiple charts via the single save via modifiers.

As for OSR rulesets, Mazes & Minotaurs is my favorite. It's free.
http://mazesandminotaurs.free.fr

But Swords &Wizardry: White Box is a great retro-clone if you are looking for a OD&D experience.

Also, as I've said before, Castles & Crusades is my favorite version of AD&D.

Pat

Quote from: Dumarest;1000428Is Apes Victorious "Planet of the Apes D&D"? If so, that sounds pretty awesome.
It should be, but it's not. The version without art is free, though, so you can see for yourself.

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Quote from: DKChannelBoredom;1001214From all the stuff mentioned, I only really know of LotFP - and I generally like it a lot, both the vibe and the rules (magic, specialist skills et all), but...

Every time I played it, I've had issues with the whiff factor in combat. Low attack bonus combined with a high(er) basic armor class (plus armor + the option of defensive fighting...) leads to really long fight with (almost) endless "roll to hit - miss. Roll to hit - miss. Roll to hit - miss. Roll to hit - miss. Et fucking cetera".

Is this a general issue with these rule sets or are there some of the mentioned, that does combat differently/swifter?

Really? But could this somehow be a problem of having somehow incorrectly inflated AC?
Because really AC for monsters, for example, should rarely get beyond 20 or 21 for the toughest creatures.

Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse 'whiff factor' than any other system.
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Dark Albion: The Rose War! The OSR fantasy setting of the history that inspired Shakespeare and Martin alike.
Also available in Variant Cover form!
Also, now with the CULTS OF CHAOS cult-generation sourcebook

ARROWS OF INDRA
Arrows of Indra: The Old-School Epic Indian RPG!
NOW AVAILABLE: AoI in print form

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The new Diceless RPG of multiversal power, adventure and intrigue, now available.

Willie the Duck

Quote from: RPGPundit;1003179Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse 'yiff factor' than any other system.

Was that a misspelling or a linguistic difference? 'Yiff' has a specific meaning on the internet I do not suggest you google at work.

Christopher Brady

Quote from: Willie the Duck;1003195Was that a misspelling are a linguistic difference? 'Yiff' has a specific meaning on the internet I do not suggest you google at work.

Change it to whiff factor...
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Quote from: RPGPundit;1003179Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse 'yiff factor' than any other system.

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