I’m drunk and have no good title, but here’s stupid SJW “gaming” stuff.

The Exploited. · September 19, 2018, 11:04:31 AM

Sadly enough it looks like going 'woke' in this case actually got the thing funded. Whether it's a good game or not seems to be irrelevant. :eek:

Ratman_tf · September 19, 2018, 12:02:20 PM

Quote from: The Exploited.;1056852Sadly enough it looks like going 'woke' in this case actually got the thing funded. Whether it's a good game or not seems to be irrelevant. :eek:

Getting people to contribute to a funding drive usually pays off (see: every SJW on patreon), whether it gets sales outside the outrage brigade is another matter.

ArrozConLeche · September 19, 2018, 12:33:33 PM

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1056297Have fun with this one, boys! Shred away!

https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?833942-The-Free-Spacer-kickstarter-has-announced-that-they-don-t-want-MRAs-Nazis-and-other-shitlords-as-fans

Oh, it's funding level is telling. Maybe. I dunno. But, fuck them.

Edit: I noticed a lot of these retards are unemployed (as an overall bit on TBP). That's not to say that being unemployed makes you a moron, but certainly one could spend less time railing about politics in elf-games and get a fucking job if you sweat dropping a buck on said elf-games.

Also, Adam Koebel is kind of a douche. I really like his characterization in Blades in the Dark, but otherwise...a whining weenie, it seems.

I'm gonna pass out now. Much love, ya'll.

I wonder what would happen if someone made a Kickstarter that grouped together SJWs, Communists, Feminists, Islamic Terrorists, Murderers and Pedophiles as people you don't want to pledge.

Dracones · September 19, 2018, 01:29:42 PM

My favorite post in that thread: "Racism and sexism are the goals of the modern American conservative movement."

It's an interesting worldview where you think 50% of the US population is voting for racism and sexism. This reminds me of a study where people today were more afraid of crime than ever(stranger danger), but statistically it's the safest it's ever been. There's this huge disconnect between reality and the mental state of people, likely due to 24/7 news media.

I sometimes wonder if what'll wipe out the human race isn't nukes, a virus or an asteroid, but the internet.

Rhedyn · September 19, 2018, 01:37:22 PM

Quote from: Dracones;1056877My favorite post in that thread: "Racism and sexism are the goals of the modern American conservative movement."

It's an interesting worldview where you think 50% of the US population is voting for racism and sexism. This reminds me of a study where people today were more afraid of crime than ever(stranger danger), but statistically it's the safest it's ever been. There's this huge disconnect between reality and the mental state of people, likely due to 24/7 news media.

I sometimes wonder if what'll wipe out the human race isn't nukes, a virus or an asteroid, but the internet.

It just goes to show that anything is corruptible once it is perceived as the majority opinion.

New age moral panic.

The Exploited. · September 19, 2018, 02:19:15 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1056864Getting people to contribute to a funding drive usually pays off (see: every SJW on patreon), whether it gets sales outside the outrage brigade is another matter.

Yeah, that's true man...

I've seen little SJW scaabs who write bait articles and then 'beg' for money through patreon. How sad is that? Get a fookin' job!

Just who would give these numtpies cash when there are starving children in the world?

TJS · September 19, 2018, 05:44:32 PM

Quote from: Dracones;1056877My favorite post in that thread: "Racism and sexism are the goals of the modern American conservative movement."

It's an interesting worldview where you think 50% of the US population is voting for racism and sexism. This reminds me of a study where people today were more afraid of crime than ever(stranger danger), but statistically it's the safest it's ever been. There's this huge disconnect between reality and the mental state of people, likely due to 24/7 news media.

I sometimes wonder if what'll wipe out the human race isn't nukes, a virus or an asteroid, but the internet.

It's an interesting cul de sac they've trapped themselves into. The logic (of a kind) seems to be something like this.

1) Half the population are racist and sexist
2) If not actually Nazi's this makes them people who either sympathise with or don't do enough to condemn Nazis.
3) Such people are indistinguishable from Nazis - so are therefore also Nazi's.
4) You can't reason with Nazi's
5) Therefore you can't reason with half the population.

Solution: Seize the means of representation so they can pretend they've already won a battle they have no idea how to fight.

RPGPundit · September 21, 2018, 03:00:13 AM

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1056692What he wanted was money. That's all you had to say.

I felt like the rest had to be said. Any game designer wants to make money. I want to make money (I've been accused of being a really intense self-promoter, and I don't particularly deny that).

But it's a very different thing to want to make money from people who will USE your RPG books, versus being happy with getting money from people who will buy your game because of your politics and knowing that they will never ever use the material for anything at all.

Christopher Brady · September 21, 2018, 04:05:23 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;1057169I felt like the rest had to be said. Any game designer wants to make money. I want to make money (I've been accused of being a really intense self-promoter, and I don't particularly deny that).

But it's a very different thing to want to make money from people who will USE your RPG books, versus being happy with getting money from people who will buy your game because of your politics and knowing that they will never ever use the material for anything at all.

Which is why I said that all he wants is money. You want to SELL people something, a setting, a gaming style, whatever, a product, but it's clear he doesn't.

RandyB · September 21, 2018, 09:23:09 AM

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1057184Which is why I said that all he wants is money. You want to SELL people something, a setting, a gaming style, whatever, a product, but it's clear he doesn't.

More than that. The SJW in question wants a successful Kickstarter. It's the Current Year equivalent of a book contract.

Anon Adderlan · September 21, 2018, 10:24:51 AM

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1056706I'm not a lawyer, however they seem to have covered their asses with this:

It's really not about legal action though, just exposing the double standard.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1056738They're definitely afraid that there might be such an issue--if you read the thread, there is serious fear of the hobby being 'infiltrated' and 'co-opted' by such sorts.

That's why, despite the harm they cause, I still have sympathy for them.

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1056870I wonder what would happen if someone made a Kickstarter that grouped together SJWs, Communists, Feminists, Islamic Terrorists, Murderers and Pedophiles as people you don't want to pledge.

You'd be attacked on all sides, because the perpetually offended would only see the parts which triggered them.

Quote from: Dracones;1056877My favorite post in that thread: "Racism and sexism are the goals of the modern American conservative movement."

What's scary is they honestly believe this.

Quote from: Dracones;1056877This reminds me of a study where people today were more afraid of crime than ever(stranger danger), but statistically it's the safest it's ever been. There's this huge disconnect between reality and the mental state of people, likely due to 24/7 news media.

Which is what happens when you put feelings over facts.

Quote from: Dracones;1056877I sometimes wonder if what'll wipe out the human race isn't nukes, a virus or an asteroid, but the internet.

You're not wrong.

Mike the Mage · September 21, 2018, 10:42:32 AM

I think it will be tardiness. And it will be too late to stop it!

Charon's Little Helper · September 21, 2018, 01:20:40 PM

Quote from: RandyB;1057228More than that. The SJW in question wants a successful Kickstarter. It's the Current Year equivalent of a book contract.

Kickstarter is fine so long as the product is mostly done already. It's not a bad system to make the first print run feasible & giving a bigger % of money to the creator (as Kickstarter takes a smaller cut than retail sites). But I've learned my lesson and no longer back anything which doesn't show off the product being either 90+% done or at least 2/3 done with a good track record. (*sigh* Star Citizen - I only backed for the core game rather than one of the crazies that threw in hundreds of dollars, but it's been about 5 frickin' years)

RandyB · September 21, 2018, 01:41:56 PM

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;1057285Kickstarter is fine so long as the product is mostly done already. It's not a bad system to make the first print run feasible & giving a bigger % of money to the creator (as Kickstarter takes a smaller cut than retail sites). But I've learned my lesson and no longer back anything which doesn't show off the product being either 90+% done or at least 2/3 done with a good track record. (*sigh* Star Citizen - I only backed for the core game rather than one of the crazies that threw in hundreds of dollars, but it's been about 5 frickin' years)

That is true when developing a product and selling it is the goal. When the goal is "successfully funded Kickstarter to claim bragging rights", that's a different thing. The latter is what has become prominent in the Current Year as the mark of "joining the 'In' Club".

Chris24601 · September 21, 2018, 03:25:05 PM

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;1057285Kickstarter is fine so long as the product is mostly done already. It's not a bad system to make the first print run feasible & giving a bigger % of money to the creator (as Kickstarter takes a smaller cut than retail sites). But I've learned my lesson and no longer back anything which doesn't show off the product being either 90+% done or at least 2/3 done with a good track record. (*sigh* Star Citizen - I only backed for the core game rather than one of the crazies that threw in hundreds of dollars, but it's been about 5 frickin' years)

I'll have a Kickstarter up soon-ish (pulling the trigger on a promotional website at the end of the month) and your concerns are precisely why I planned to launch it only once the writing was DONE and I had a full draft copy of the game to give out to all the backers upon successful completion of the Kickstarter.

Well, DONE minus a professional copy editor's proofing... which is one of the things on the list I'm asking for the funding for over and above paying for interior art and the print run itself... sundries like copy editors and copyright/trademark lawyers are things that are easy to overlook, more expensive than you'd think if you want them done well, but important if your goal is a professional publication.