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I got the PHB2!

Started by Yig, May 09, 2006, 10:26:29 PM

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Yig

If you got questions I can try to answer :)
 

Thjalfi

Quote from: YigIf you got questions I can try to answer :)

so what kind of alternate options for scout does it have? I've found the class to be a bit on the under-powered side, and i'm hoping it's got some kind of alternate package that helps bring it up a bit.
 

Knightcrawler

Quote from: Thjalfiso what kind of alternate options for scout does it have? I've found the class to be a bit on the under-powered side, and i'm hoping it's got some kind of alternate package that helps bring it up a bit.

Other than alternate starting packages the only option offered for each class is a usually a single substitution level.  For example Sorcerers at 1st level can give up teh ability to summon a familiar and gain the ability to use metamagic without an increase of casting time a number of times per day equal to 3+ Int modifier.

My best friend got it so I should be able to look it over in depth more next week.

Lots of extra feats most building on current feat chains, lots of spells, couple of new core classes.
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Yig

Quote from: Thjalfiso what kind of alternate options for scout does it have? I've found the class to be a bit on the under-powered side, and i'm hoping it's got some kind of alternate package that helps bring it up a bit.

They call it dungeon specialist, available at 3rd level. You lose both fast movement gained at 3rd and 11th level and evasion gained at 5th level.

At 3rd level you gain a climb speed equal to half your land speed. At 11th level is increase to your base speed. Also gives you the bonus you have when you have a climb speed.

At 5th level, if standing on the ground and adjacent to a wall, you gain +2 AC and opponents don't get the +2 to hit if they flank you.
 

Sobek

I expect mine today, sometime (actually, I expected it yesterday, based on shipping time with "Complete Psion").  Should have an opinion soon.
 
For as spotty as "Complete Psion" was, if PHB2 is pretty good, I'm going back to a low-buying mode.
 

BillBrasky

What's it going for?  30 or 40?  Can it be worth it?
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Yig

It is 35$ USD.

But I paid it 35$ CND.

I think that it is worth it. a Lot more good crunch in it that say, DMG 2.
 

ColonelHardisson

Quote from: BillBraskyWhat's it going for?  30 or 40?  Can it be worth it?

Why can't it? The DMGII is one of my favorite WotC books. I think the PHBII would be worth it if it's as good as the DMGII.

My copy should be arriving by mail today.
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Sobek

Quote from: BillBraskyWhat's it going for? 30 or 40? Can it be worth it?

Amazon has it for $22 + change.
 

Renna

Quote from: SobekAmazon has it for $22 + change.
That's where I got mine. I would have had it today in time for gaming tonight, but I didn't put the suite number on my billing address, so I won't get it until tomorrow. DAMMIT!

Eh, I'll live. Looking forward to flipping through it, though.
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Zalmoxis

I'm holding out for 4th edition.


What? :heh:

Thjalfi

Quote from: ZalmoxisI'm holding out for 4th edition.


What? :heh:

sounds like someone wants a Swedish Chef ban for a while.... :heh:
 

Hreidmar

Quote from: ZalmoxisI'm holding out for 4th edition.


What? :heh:

Better stop flapping your gums and start moving your feat or I'll burn you to a crisp.  :mad:

Sobek

Well, I thumb through it.  I definitely hate the Dragon Shaman.  The jury is still out on the others.  Beguiler looks a bit too good for Rogues to have much of a place, anymore.  The Duskblade looks way too fucking good (10 1st level spells for a bard-like caster?), has too much built in flavor, and seems like it should be a PrC.  I'm still not sure what I think about the Knight, but it's probably the best of the lot.
 
The feats look pretty good.  They're nice, but the best have insane requirements (at least one require a +18 BAB).  It's nice to see the big-boys get some toys.  I only glanced at the spells, but they seem okay.  Some seem a bit too good, but not many.
 
The advice chapters actually look worth the paper on which they're printed, which surprised me.  I'm even interested in the rules for associations.
 

Yig

The rules for retraining seems a bit too complicated for nothing.

Haven't had time to really read the book yet.