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Champions Now Kickstarter by Ron Edwards

Started by Aglondir, May 29, 2018, 08:48:10 PM

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kythri

#105
March 23, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1080418It states it'll be released in June.  I'm curious about it, still.

Recent comment from them states that they're a bit behind schedule.

Christopher Brady

#106
March 23, 2019, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: kythri;1080421Recent comment from them states that they're a bit behind schedule.

/Insert Iago The Parrot's 'I'm not surprised' quote
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

Toadmaster

#107
March 23, 2019, 08:01:15 PM
Quote from: Jame Rowe;1080399A friend of mine gave me a copy of Hero 6th edition. 466 pages just for character creation?

Um, yeah, I'd rather do GURPS.


Compare that to 4th edition where the whole game fit into 220 pages...

Eisenmann

#108
March 23, 2019, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: Toadmaster;1080463Compare that to 4th edition where the whole game fit into 220 pages...

And I found both (HERO & GURPS) to be about the same amount of work - worth the effort.

Toadmaster

#109
March 24, 2019, 12:46:42 AM
Quote from: Eisenmann;1080474And I found both (HERO & GURPS) to be about the same amount of work - worth the effort.

Pre-6th HERO is one of my favorite games, GURPS 3rd another so I agree with you. I just find it shocking that making the game "easier" exploded the page count from 220 pages in 4th to 800-900 pages in 6th.

Aglondir

#110
March 24, 2019, 03:09:33 AM
Quote from: Toadmaster;1080493Pre-6th HERO is one of my favorite games, GURPS 3rd another so I agree with you. I just find it shocking that making the game "easier" exploded the page count from 220 pages in 4th to 800-900 pages in 6th.

Most of the page count is due to examples and art-- Champions Complete is only 240 pages. 6E is my favorite version of Hero yet, mostly because they got rid of figured characteristics and elemental controls.

Eisenmann

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March 24, 2019, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: Toadmaster;1080493Pre-6th HERO is one of my favorite games, GURPS 3rd another so I agree with you. I just find it shocking that making the game "easier" exploded the page count from 220 pages in 4th to 800-900 pages in 6th.

It's frickin' daunting, that's for sure.

Thank goodness for Champions and Fantasy Hero complete, because coming into the game cold, the big books were just too much. Now I use the big books as reference, like encyclopedia volumes. Glad to have 'em, but yeah. What really helped get me oriented were fan made things like Chris Goodwin's How to Play HERO and the Fantasy Hero Primer.
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