Quote from: Baron on February 16, 2024, 05:33:51 PM

Quote from: Dracones on February 15, 2024, 12:29:11 PM
...a picture of Gary doing a line of coke off a super model...

I'd like to see that picture... 

Close enough? Its Not Gary, but that never stopped the Woke from hallucinating whatever they want.(Image is 50% NSFW so tagged it so the prude patrol can click and bitch anyhow. You know they will.)

Spoiler

No. I'm very sad. 

And a woman's back is NSFW? Good thing Ill be shuffling off this mortal coil, because it's getting worse every day.

Backbone sounds like a sexual fetish for Chiropractors.

That doesn't look right. Someone put a wig on a headless mannequin.

Quote from: yosemitemike on February 16, 2024, 01:34:03 PM
Well, I'm sure I can guess who they didn't think to mention.  I am guessing Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson weren't mentioned.  Who the fuck is "the community" anyway?   

Not only are they making a big deal out of Gygax and Arneson, they're putting out a whole upscale 600 page book about it.

Includes:
The original commentary in the Euro fanzine from Gary explaining the rules
Chainmail, 2nd printing
Outdoor Survival
A 100 page first draft of the rules, along with notes from Gary and Dave
Brown Box D&D with Hobbits, Entw, & Balrogs
Greyhawk
Blackmoor
Eldritch Wizardry
Correspondence between Gary and Dave
A lot more

Quote from: Omega on February 16, 2024, 11:39:48 PM

Quote from: Baron on February 16, 2024, 05:33:51 PM

Quote from: Dracones on February 15, 2024, 12:29:11 PM
...a picture of Gary doing a line of coke off a super model...

I'd like to see that picture... 

Close enough? Its Not Gary, but that never stopped the Woke from hallucinating whatever they want.(Image is 50% NSFW so tagged it so the prude patrol can click and bitch anyhow. You know they will.)

Spoiler

Is that John McAfee?

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 15, 2024, 03:07:54 PM

It's pretty clearly more than that. This is like thanking Jeff Bezos and the Amazon DEI division for Lord of the Rings, and not mentioning Tolkien. It's a Replacement Strategy: D&D wasn't invented by a pair of Evil Straight Cis WHITEMALES! It was "created", by the "community", which the right people very strictly police for anything problematic, like whiteness or straightness or not wanting to buy a book that pretends to be D&D but actually just wants to lecture you about gender.

I think the word you are looking for here is appropriation.  This is not unlike what they did with Cleopatra.

Like any psychopath, they are taking credit for the work of others.

This was just Standard Corporate Template E23452: Act Like You Appreciate Your Customer.  They didn't mention Dave or Gary, but neither did they mention anyone else involved in any D&D version, just gushing about how wonderful The Community is.  If they hadn't mentioned the creators but had thanked nobodies like the Deck of Many Autistic Things writer, I'd have taken exception to it, but this is just empty corporate noise.

On the other hand, in the video about the big book they're selling about the original game they did take time to mention that they would be "contextualizing" the content to emphasize how progressive they are now, so you can expect either a foreward or sidebars about how -ist D&D was and suffices to guarantee that I'll never touch the thing.

Quote from: BadApple on February 17, 2024, 11:00:46 AM
Is that John McAfee?

That looks more like Castro's son, except he's in beardface instead of blackface.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 17, 2024, 10:46:03 AM

Quote from: yosemitemike on February 16, 2024, 01:34:03 PM
Well, I'm sure I can guess who they didn't think to mention.  I am guessing Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson weren't mentioned.  Who the fuck is "the community" anyway?   

Not only are they making a big deal out of Gygax and Arneson, they're putting out a whole upscale 600 page book about it.

Includes:
The original commentary in the Euro fanzine from Gary explaining the rules
Chainmail, 2nd printing
Outdoor Survival
A 100 page first draft of the rules, along with notes from Gary and Dave
Brown Box D&D with Hobbits, Entw, & Balrogs
Greyhawk
Blackmoor
Eldritch Wizardry
Correspondence between Gary and Dave
A lot more

Did you actually watch this video? Done six days after the video I was talking about, they finally get around to mentioning Arneson and Gygax. In the video, they essentially say that Gygax and Arneson were evil and what they made was evil.

Is that somehow better?
So how can you be sure the book they're producing won't start with a lengthy essay talking about the same thing, CONDEMNING Gygax, Arneson and the entire Old School and all regular D&D gamers, which is what that video did.

Quote from: BadApple on February 17, 2024, 11:00:46 AM

Quote from: Omega on February 16, 2024, 11:39:48 PM

Quote from: Baron on February 16, 2024, 05:33:51 PM

Quote from: Dracones on February 15, 2024, 12:29:11 PM
...a picture of Gary doing a line of coke off a super model...

I'd like to see that picture... 

Close enough? Its Not Gary, but that never stopped the Woke from hallucinating whatever they want.(Image is 50% NSFW so tagged it so the prude patrol can click and bitch anyhow. You know they will.)

Spoiler

Is that John McAfee?

The next person who tries to derail my thread by talking about something that has NOTHING to do with the actual topic will be immediately PERMABANNED.

Badapple, do not post on this thread again.

Omega, likewise.

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 17, 2024, 10:49:17 PM
Did you actually watch this video? Done six days after the video I was talking about, they finally get around to mentioning Arneson and Gygax. In the video, they essentially say that Gygax and Arneson were evil and what they made was evil.

Is that somehow better?
So how can you be sure the book they're producing won't start with a lengthy essay talking about the same thing, CONDEMNING Gygax, Arneson and the entire Old School and all regular D&D gamers, which is what that video did.

Yes, I watched the video. No, they never say or imply anything like Gygax and Arenson were evil and what they made was evil. Even you can't spin that fib with a straight face.

Quote from: Baron on February 16, 2024, 11:44:04 PM
No. I'm very sad. 

And a woman's back is NSFW? Good thing Ill be shuffling off this mortal coil, because it's getting worse every day.

Yeah people on BGG consider that "pornography". Because of course they do.

Back on topic. Of course wotc wont say much of anything at all about Gygax, Arneson or anyone else.

I will be surprised if they still get mention in the credits. Now that Mearls is out. Wonder if they will erase him too?

Also would not surprise me if they did this specifically to rile people up. But more likely its just wotc being stupid. Again.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 17, 2024, 11:46:46 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 17, 2024, 10:49:17 PM
Did you actually watch this video? Done six days after the video I was talking about, they finally get around to mentioning Arneson and Gygax. In the video, they essentially say that Gygax and Arneson were evil and what they made was evil.

Is that somehow better?
So how can you be sure the book they're producing won't start with a lengthy essay talking about the same thing, CONDEMNING Gygax, Arneson and the entire Old School and all regular D&D gamers, which is what that video did.

Yes, I watched the video. No, they never say or imply anything like Gygax and Arenson were evil and what they made was evil. Even you can't spin that fib with a straight face.

Gygax and Arneson were, according to the video "white dudes from Lake Geneva and the Twin Cities", and D&D was "a lot of material that wouldn't pass our inclusivity reviews today".  In degenerate woke-speak, that's saying they were evil.

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 18, 2024, 04:12:53 AM
Gygax and Arneson were, according to the video "white dudes from Lake Geneva and the Twin Cities", and D&D was "a lot of material that wouldn't pass our inclusivity reviews today".  In degenerate woke-speak, that's saying they were evil.

I went through the video and did not see this stated? Did it get edited out?

I see alot of "Thank you players" interspersed with alot of "Thank you community"