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GF ran a rules-light game for me. Didn't go very well. Advice please? [long story]

Started by abcd_z, October 03, 2016, 10:25:05 PM

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TristramEvans

Quote from: AsenRG;923786That's what I'm doing, I'm talking to the OP like an adult, because his GM is not experienced enough to know this. The question is, what are the rest of you doing, apart from bitching?

Patting ourselves on the back for identifying a troll so quickly, mostly.

crkrueger

Quote from: AsenRG;923786That's what I'm doing, I'm talking to the OP like an adult, because his GM is not experienced enough to know this. The question is, what are the rest of you doing, apart from bitching?

You said you don't care if he's a troll or not.  That's not having an adult conversation, because you literally don't care if someone is on the other end.  You're typing for the sake of typing, a theoretical exercise because you have nothing else better to do.  All you're accomplishing is being an outlier (which you appear to derive satisfaction from) and getting to take some passive-aggressive shots at the storygame bias of this site (again deriving satisfaction from) all the while sitting up on the high horse for being tolerant of a Troll Job.

Masturbation shoud be reward enough, you don't need Brownie points from the rest of the site.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

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Bren

Late to the party...

To the OP: So your “girlfriend” figured out that you are a gay guy who is still deeply, deeply in the closet. She wants to let you know it is OK for you to come out to her and thought an RPG would be a safer way for you to do that. Apparently she was wrong.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;923154But I vote 6+2 HD, green skin, AC4, regenerates 3 points per turn.
Seriously? Dude I've haven't played OD&D in decades and I know a troll has 6+3 HD. For shame.
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crkrueger

What kind of a man won't take one up the Keister for the woman he loves?

Quote from: Bren;923808Seriously? Dude I've haven't played OD&D in decades and I know a troll has 6+3 HD. For shame.
Guess now he owes you 4 beers?
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Bren

Quote from: CRKrueger;923810Guess now he owes you 4 beers?
Sometimes you really do get me.


Though I was thinking +3 Beers.
Currently running: Runequest in Glorantha + Call of Cthulhu   Currently playing: D&D 5E + RQ
My Blog: For Honor...and Intrigue
I have a gold medal from Ravenswing and Gronan owes me bee

AsenRG

Quote from: TristramEvans;923787Patting ourselves on the back for identifying a troll so quickly, mostly.
Is that what they call it these days:)? I'm always behind the slang!

Quote from: CRKrueger;923801You said you don't care if he's a troll or not.  That's not having an adult conversation, because you literally don't care if someone is on the other end.  You're typing for the sake of typing, a theoretical exercise because you have nothing else better to do.
That's right. And because I had nothing better to do, I elected to have an adult conversation with someone who might or might not be a troll. It only becomes a theoretical exercise if he is, but my reading of the situation says that's not the case.

QuoteAll you're accomplishing is being an outlier (which you appear to derive satisfaction from)
Don't mistake the icing for the cake, young grasshopper;).

Quoteand getting to take some passive-aggressive shots at the storygame bias of this site (again deriving satisfaction from)
You sure you don't mean an anti-storygame bias:p?

Man, what's up with this thread? Bren caught Gronan in a mistake about the HD of trolls. I get you mistaking storygames and anti-storygame sentiments. That's, like, two colossi stumbling in the same thread:D!

Also, no, I'm not taking any shots at it. I'm notifying someone with three posts to his name that this such bias exists.

Quoteall the while sitting up on the high horse for being tolerant of a Troll Job.
What high horse? I'm giving him the benefit of doubt. That at least has the chance of being useful - while snickering, bitching and patting yourself on the back doesn't have any such chances.
To each his own.

QuoteMasturbation shoud be reward enough, you don't need Brownie points from the rest of the site.
Don't judge others by yourself - I prefer to perform such activities with partners;)!
But you're right - when it comes to sex, I don't need anything from the rest of the users of this site. In fact, I'd be outraged if I so much as think about any of you:D!
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"Life is not fair. If the campaign setting is somewhat like life then the setting also is sometimes not fair." - Bren

Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: Bren;923808Seriously? Dude I've haven't played OD&D in decades and I know a troll has 6+3 HD. For shame.

Well I'll be a son of a bitch.

What's a +3 beer?
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: AsenRG;923786And I remember how an old geezer once told me on another forum that the way to resolve the problem with a player who refuses to engage is to talk with the player in question like adults;).

That's what I'm doing, I'm talking to the OP like an adult, because his GM is not experienced enough to know this. The question is, what are the rest of you doing, apart from bitching?

Trying to find out if he's a troll or a total social basket case, because frankly the initial post is utterly not credible.  Twelve year olds have better social skills than that, and most women I know would have said "fuck it" after the second or third time.  Seriously, the referee tells you you meet an old friend and you get a grenade ready?  The correct answer to that is "What the fuck is WRONG with you."

I bluntly refuse to believe this is for real, so, like the other people here who share my opinion, I'm tormenting the troll for my own sadistic amusement.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: AsenRG;923833In fact, I'd be outraged if I so much as think about any of you:D!

Next time you're about to orgasm you will think of me waving my fat old hairy ass at you and murmuring seductively "You KNOW you want some of this, sailor boy."  And such is the power of suggestion that you will be unable to keep that thought out of your mind.

You're welcome.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

AsenRG

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;923887Trying to find out if he's a troll or a total social basket case, because frankly the initial post is utterly not credible.  Twelve year olds have better social skills than that, and most women I know would have said "fuck it" after the second or third time.  Seriously, the referee tells you you meet an old friend and you get a grenade ready?  The correct answer to that is "What the fuck is WRONG with you."

I bluntly refuse to believe this is for real, so, like the other people here who share my opinion, I'm tormenting the troll for my own sadistic amusement.

I've had players in their 20ies react this way in my sessions, except he prepared a sword, so no, it's far from impossible:).
(Of course, I just had the friend notice it and asking the PC has crossed the wrong kind of people lately, but it's not a thread about solutions to the problem of overcautious players that avoid human interaction).

And no, such players aren't necessarily total social retards, but their previous experience was influencing that behaviour;).
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"Life is not fair. If the campaign setting is somewhat like life then the setting also is sometimes not fair." - Bren

Gronan of Simmerya

Well, in my family and friends, 'what the fuck is WRONG with you' is an acceptable way to speak to one another, so it counts as "discuss your expectations."
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

cranebump

Quote from: AsenRG;923786And I remember how an old geezer once told me on another forum that the way to resolve the problem with a player who refuses to engage is to talk with the player in question like adults;).

That's what I'm doing, I'm talking to the OP like an adult, because his GM is not experienced enough to know this. The question is, what are the rest of you doing, apart from bitching?

I don't know about everyone else, but I was identifying obvious douche baggery when I see it.
"When devils will the blackest sins put on, they do suggest at first with heavenly shows..."

cranebump

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;923885Well I'll be a son of a bitch.

What's a +3 beer?

+3 Vorpal Beer=you end up in a shotgun wedding.
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Anon Adderlan

If this is a troll, then we really need more trolls like this.

Quote from: abcd_z;923147She suggests that I might need to put points into video game skill, then places my character in the Dune setting and flat-out tells me that my character's goal is to, and I quote, "ride the worm".

She meant the Shai-hulud, but I have a dirty mind and was not okay with riding a gigantic phallic creature. Also, she made it fairly obvious that she was trying to pull a twist ("you were in a VR world all along!"), but she did this by trying to withhold knowledge that my character would have known. I pushed back and finally got her to admit that this was a VR game, but that my character still felt a strong urge to "ride the worm".

Even after I made a boatload of double-entendres about this she still didn't understand why I might not want to do this. My character shuts down the VR game. Okay, I'm in an arcade, with a cute girl who wanted to see me ride the worm. Apparently my character wanted to impress her (GM's words, not mine). I make several more double-entendres about the female NPC being a yaoi fangirl, then left.

Seriously this is comedy gold and/or socially relevant commentary.

Quote from: abcd_z;923147she starts by making an hobo NPC with several Moves, including "swindle money". We run a mock encounter that starts with him approaching me for spare change. I immediately get as far away from him as possible.

She decides to have him show up again in the direction that I run, and I think, "if nothing else, this is turning into a decent horror RPG." Several iterations of the same hobo appear. I jump up and over the one blocking me, kneeing him in the face in the process, and make it to the main road.

Quote from: abcd_z;923147Now I'm on the bus, and the hobo appears in the seat next to me, saying, "you won't get away so easily." I, the player, want to punch the hobo NPC in the face, but I don't interrupt the GM and suddenly I'm back in town.

Quote from: abcd_z;923147So. Apparently I'm a murderhobo

I mean come on, COME ON!

Quote from: Doom;923677But what happens if you really want to have a girlfriend?


Omega

To me it just reads like the standard (over) reaction some have to plot hooks. The sort of reactions factions in the GNS/Storygamer/Swine/whatever have been trying to drill into players heads. Its also how a few hexcrawler/freeform players react to anything resembling a plot or plot hooks.

Combine that with a new DM who is coming across as a little (or alot) railroady initially. Stuff that would get anyone else lambasted here for being such a horrible rotten DM.

But oh yeah. Tits... Free pass... got it.

(To be fair though... Yeah parts of the OP do look more than a little suspicious. But unfortunately. Seen worse reactions... sooo...)

So instead heres some basic advice to the DM.

Toss out more plot hooks. This way you dont get potential stonewalls were the players just wont bite at all or are reticent to do so.

And some advice to the OP/player.

Sometimes what looks like a plot hook is just the opening introduction and after that things broaden from there. Othertimes its yeah, a railroad.

Dont treat everything as a threat or plot hook waiting to entrap you. Sometimes the NPCs are talking to you just because you are there and thats what people do.

Trust the DM and see where things go. If its really not going right THEN start resisting. Or just pause and say "Hey. This doesnt feel right." and discuss the issues.