Quote from: AsenRG;924160No, because most people around here have long since forgotten what it is to play with newbies.
Or, even if they haven't forgotten, they haven't had a newbie from the latest generation.

Ah, I see. Pretty much half my fun is playing with newbies so that's always a constant for me.

Quote from: Omega;924228Right. But when you have someone coming from direction A, and someone from direction B. A little or alot of clashing may occur. Especially when one side adopts an adversarial attitude to the other side. Which is where the OP crashed hard.

So you have a new DM making some baser mistakes and you have a slightly more seasoned player for whatever reasons making some rather odd assumptions over it and things snowballed from there with the player resisting at every turn and the DM likely puzzled what the heck was wrong.

So again. Something as simple as pausing and asking whats up, get some clarification, would have probably helped defuse the tension.

Especially since this was not some random pickup game at a convention, but supposedly his girlfriend, whom he could be assumed to have some knowledge of, and to possibly care about her.

Really, game or no game, he simply treated her like shit.  So either he's a troll or she should DHMFA immediately.

Quote from: CRKrueger;924176Everyone sucks the first time they do anything, even Michael Phelps would have drowned at the age of seven had someone not been there.

Hell, I can think of all the screwups I made the first year I was GMing and I cringe today ... and I didn't catch a fraction of the bullshit from my players that the poor GF seems to have had.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;924235Ah, I see. Pretty much half my fun is playing with newbies so that's always a constant for me.

And you still haven't had a player like the OP, but inspired by MMORPG gaming? You're either really lucky, or screening your future players, or I don't know what.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;924253Especially since this was not some random pickup game at a convention, but supposedly his girlfriend, whom he could be assumed to have some knowledge of, and to possibly care about her.

Really, game or no game, he simply treated her like shit.  So either he's a troll or she should DHMFA immediately.

I'd say he needs to apologize, but since she's obviously still talking to him, I assume that's done.

Quote from: AsenRG;924311And you still haven't had a player like the OP, but inspired by MMORPG gaming? You're either really lucky, or screening your future players, or I don't know what.

Where did you get the MMORPG gaming part from?

I do kind of screen since I play with my friends and then I teach them how to play. But I am familiar with that type of player. Just not in a while. I have one friend who delights in always trying to go off the rails, and I just run with it. (Though that's a 1 on 1 game.)

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;924444Where did you get the MMORPG gaming part from?

Personal experience:).

QuoteI do kind of screen since I play with my friends and then I teach them how to play. But I am familiar with that type of player. Just not in a while.

Well, then I guess you can confirm such players exist, no matter how many people doubt that.

QuoteI have one friend who delights in always trying to go off the rails, and I just run with it. (Though that's a 1 on 1 game.)

That doesn't sound as quite the same;).

I come back to my First Law of Gaming: Players Always Lie.

One of the reasons I don't bother with Sit Down and Have An Adult Conversation with Your Players about What They Want is that players don't know what they want, but often know what they're supposed to want, so they lie. And then at the table they go and do what it is they want to do, which isn't what you prepped for because you assumed they weren't going to lie.

So, abcd_z: you owe it to yourself and your girlfriend not to lie.  You've alluded to some emotional issues that may be affecting your ability to engage with a fictional situation where you're not in control.  A RPG isn't the place to work out those issues.  You've said that the longest game you've run is six sessions, and you've described a premise that is, honestly, inchoate.  You've mentioned that you're using a home brew system that hacks in moves from PbtA games.

All of this adds up to a lot of ambiguity, which means a lot of opportunity for misunderstanding and potential hurt feelings.  Allow me to suggest that you may have better luck picking a simple, well-defined system with a clear, unambiguous play structure and  running some sessions of that.  There are some good PbtA hacks that apply - I'm thinking Monster of the Week.