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Games I thought I’d hate…

Started by The Exploited., June 28, 2017, 07:13:33 AM

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#45
July 12, 2017, 06:59:25 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;974175Hackmaster 4th had to be a parody, it was a WotC contract requirement to use the AD&D license.
Hackmaster 5th doesn't have that issue.

hackmaster 5th also chose not to be OSR.
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#46
July 13, 2017, 09:00:48 AM
Quote from: John Scott;973739What makes [DCC] stand out in your opinion compared to similar games like Hackmaster or OSR

DCC is consciously trying to recapture that "OMG I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS GAME BEFORE" feeling so many people had when they first encountered D&D.  The weird dice, the bizarre monsters, the quirky, overly-specific spells, crawling around in a nonsensical 10x10'-quantized dungeon etc.  Except these days the standard set of Dragon Dice, owlbears, Mordenkainen's Magnificent Whatever, dungeon crawling and so on are worn-out fantasy tropes, so to get that feeling you have to introduce a bunch of new tropes.  It's not so much about gonzo as it is novelty, but familiar novelty, if that makes sense.  It's why DCC uses bizarre non-regular polyhedral dice instead of cards or spinners or runes or something.
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#47
July 13, 2017, 09:08:54 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;975004hackmaster 5th also chose not to be OSR.

It's divergent, sure, but it's still recognizable as a D&D.  DCC is pretty damn divergent too system-wise.
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#48
July 13, 2017, 12:51:52 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;974075Well, DCC IS an OSR game. But I assume you meant "early-edition D&D and clones" there?

I think the central thing DCC does that makes it stand out is that it takes the quirky parts of D&D, and runs with it. Not in a goofy kind of slightly smug joke of "isn't old school D&D kind of ridiculous" like Hackmaster did, but in a way that says "let's get all-in with the weird".

Mind you, I don't think it ever got TRULY all-in until I came up with my own DCC Last Sun setting, which in turn takes those rules and says "let's go all-in with a setting where these rules become logical".

I was looking for a D&D back to the roots kind of game to play with friends (there are to many), sounds like I have to give DCC a chance. To create a setting where the rules of a "D&D game" make sense within the setting is a really cool idea.

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#49
July 13, 2017, 06:22:29 PM
Does the self-destructive nature of the magic in DCC have an analogue in the 'source' games?
I don't recall AD&D 1e magic causing corruption from cantrips!
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#50
July 13, 2017, 07:45:22 PM
Quote from: AaronBrown99;975315Does the self-destructive nature of the magic in DCC have an analogue in the 'source' games?
I don't recall AD&D 1e magic causing corruption from cantrips!

No, that's the Sword & Sorcery Appendix N material's influence.
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Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

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#51
July 17, 2017, 02:04:18 AM
Quote from: John Scott;975250I was looking for a D&D back to the roots kind of game to play with friends (there are to many), sounds like I have to give DCC a chance. To create a setting where the rules of a "D&D game" make sense within the setting is a really cool idea.

I love DCC in part for the reason you state here.

As far as my setting, I'll be revealing it in small doses in my upcoming "Pundit Presents" series of products.
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Also available in Variant Cover form!
Also, now with the CULTS OF CHAOS cult-generation sourcebook

ARROWS OF INDRA
Arrows of Indra: The Old-School Epic Indian RPG!
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LORDS OF OLYMPUS
The new Diceless RPG of multiversal power, adventure and intrigue, now available.
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