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Dragonbane

Started by S'mon, February 09, 2023, 01:23:24 AM

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S'mon

#15
February 09, 2023, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: Tasty_Wind on February 09, 2023, 01:52:12 PM
Didn't Pendragon use a D20 version of BRP?

While Dragonbane descends from Magic World, I believe the d20 has been in use in previous DoD editions a good while. There are some new 5e-isms like the Bane/Boon system and the Heroic Abilities, though.

Godsmonkey

#16
February 09, 2023, 04:54:08 PM
Quote from: Tasty_Wind on February 09, 2023, 01:52:12 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on February 09, 2023, 11:14:20 AM
I backed it. It's basically a D20 roll under version of Chaosiums BRP system, with player facing defensive rolls. the GM rolls a chart or pics from a variety of possible monster attacks, variable by monster. In all it seems a solid system that should make for dynamic combats.
Didn't Pendragon use a D20 version of BRP?

Indeed. There are similarities. In fact, Im guessing you could do a mash-up pretty easy if desired. Give PCs some magic for example? Of course that would stray from the original literary inspired roots of the game. (Of course female knights do that as well, so why not?)

Godsmonkey

#17
February 09, 2023, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: Pen on February 09, 2023, 12:20:53 PM
I backed it on KS. Looks pretty cool. It's between medium and low crunch. High lethality. Art is awesome. I believe they will also allow 3rd party content, but not a full on OGL.

In fact, Free League has announced a Dragon Bane OGL, as well as a Year Zero one.
https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/free-league-ogl-dragonbane

https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/free-league-ogl-dragonbane

Pen

#18
February 09, 2023, 05:19:37 PM
Quote from: Godsmonkey on February 09, 2023, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: Pen on February 09, 2023, 12:20:53 PM
I backed it on KS. Looks pretty cool. It's between medium and low crunch. High lethality. Art is awesome. I believe they will also allow 3rd party content, but not a full on OGL.

In fact, Free League has announced a Dragon Bane OGL, as well as a Year Zero one.
https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/free-league-ogl-dragonbane

https://www.wargamer.com/dnd/free-league-ogl-dragonbane

Correct. It's for 3rd party content but not to use for new games.

GeekyBugle

#19
February 09, 2023, 05:46:52 PM
I wonder what's FL policy regarding giving free stuff to veterans?

Because I know some Cunts from Mork Borg openly mock them.
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#20
February 10, 2023, 06:35:04 AM
Free League is Swedish IIRC so I doubt they share American sentiments in this regard.
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Brad

#21
February 10, 2023, 08:11:37 AM
So if it's Swedish, is it a lot of dark humor and really occultish?
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

S'mon

#22
February 10, 2023, 09:29:22 AM Last Edit: February 10, 2023, 09:34:58 AM by S'mon
Quote from: Brad on February 10, 2023, 08:11:37 AM
So if it's Swedish, is it a lot of dark humor and really occultish?

Its tagline is "Mirth & Mayhem" - by Swedish standards it's light & vanilla. ie the grimdark is actually light enough for me to enjoy.  ;D

I'd peg it as at a very similar level to the British RPG Dragon Warriors. So a lot darker and grimier than default D&D. Lighter than WHFRP by default (but very similar tone to Warhammer of the early 80s). Heroic + Scary plus grim humour, not hopeless bleakness. Monsters can kill you. By default they probably will - but you might beat them if you're smart & lucky. Don't enter combat lightly unless you've stacked the odds in your favour, and even then a lucky goblin spear can fell the greatest knight - a spear crit does 4d8 damage and characters have 3-18 hp...

S'mon

#23
February 12, 2023, 08:09:12 PM
We played today! Great fun, and I killed a PC  ;D



The group attacked a goblin camp, in the mayhem two goblins followed the singing bard round behind a rock and filled him full of arrows. With no armour and 10 hp, he was already on 0 hp when an arrow hit him and I rolled 10 on d10 for damage, instant kill.

S'mon

#24
February 12, 2023, 08:11:10 PM
After playing lots of 5e some players find the brutality and swinginess a bit shocking; others are loving it.  8)

Persimmon

#25
February 12, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
Hmmmm, artwork and layout look fantastic; give me Brothers Hildebrandt vibes.  My only exrperience with Free League is The One Ring 2nd edition, which looks great, but has atrocious mechanics.  Can't quantify how much I hate those mechanics.  So I'll stay on the fence for now.

Persimmon

#26
February 13, 2023, 12:55:19 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on February 12, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
Hmmmm, artwork and layout look fantastic; give me Brothers Hildebrandt vibes.  My only exrperience with Free League is The One Ring 2nd edition, which looks great, but has atrocious mechanics.  Can't quantify how much I hate those mechanics.  So I'll stay on the fence for now.

After downloading the free quickstart rules and watching a couple videos on Youtube, I decided to back it.  It's rare these days that I can totally gronk a new rules system this fast and I love the art and tone.  I've been looking for a rules light alternative to the various OSR games we've been playing and this looks like it could fit the bill.  Also sounds like the published adventures are pretty much designed to be one-shots, which is another big plus.  I love the idea of long campaign arcs, but in practice we don't play regularly enough as it is.  So I like the idea of being able to finish adventures in 3-4 hours.

S'mon

#27
February 13, 2023, 06:15:35 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on February 12, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
Hmmmm, artwork and layout look fantastic; give me Brothers Hildebrandt vibes.  My only exrperience with Free League is The One Ring 2nd edition, which looks great, but has atrocious mechanics.  Can't quantify how much I hate those mechanics.  So I'll stay on the fence for now.

It's completely different mechanics, it's an old school RPG derived from BRP/Runequest via Magic World. This is what I really like about it! I've played some Vaesen but not a fan of the Free League house system, whereas this is a very solid light but simulationist system. One of my players was praising it for the greater realism compared to D&D 5e.

Persimmon

#28
February 13, 2023, 08:39:47 AM
Quote from: S'mon on February 13, 2023, 06:15:35 AM
Quote from: Persimmon on February 12, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
Hmmmm, artwork and layout look fantastic; give me Brothers Hildebrandt vibes.  My only exrperience with Free League is The One Ring 2nd edition, which looks great, but has atrocious mechanics.  Can't quantify how much I hate those mechanics.  So I'll stay on the fence for now.

It's completely different mechanics, it's an old school RPG derived from BRP/Runequest via Magic World. This is what I really like about it! I've played some Vaesen but not a fan of the Free League house system, whereas this is a very solid light but simulationist system. One of my players was praising it for the greater realism compared to D&D 5e.

You may have missed my follow-up.  After checking out the quickstart and watching a couple preview videos on youtube, I decided to pick it up.  Looks like a nice light system with some interesting features. Love the artwork and presentation, including the super useful, one page character sheets.

Dracones

#29
February 13, 2023, 10:56:41 AM
From the quickstart, it seems like some of the rules are a bit clunky. If you go first in a combat round you can no longer parry and dodge? Magic can't be used while in direct contact with iron/steel, presumably to explain weapon/armor limits for spell casters. But does a sheathed sword count as direct contact? What about plate armor while wearing gambeson underneath it? A heavy crossbow with a steel bow?

I feel like you could throw in a couple optional rules on top of OSR/C&C and have what Dragonbane is doing, but with a lot more product support.
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