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Dead Lands

Started by Thanos, August 23, 2009, 10:38:42 AM

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Thanos

August 23, 2009, 10:38:42 AM
The premise sounds pretty neat but from what I've read the game machanics seem overerly complicated. Trying to play poker and an RPG at the same time seems a little retarded. Can any one shead some light on this? Is there a non-deck using edition of the game? Is it worth my while from the get go?

Hackmaster

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August 23, 2009, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: Thanos;323048The premise sounds pretty neat but from what I've read the game machanics seem overerly complicated. Trying to play poker and an RPG at the same time seems a little retarded. Can any one shead some light on this? Is there a non-deck using edition of the game? Is it worth my while from the get go?

Deadlands Reloaded uses the Savage Worlds system, which is completely different from the original edition. Cards are used for initiative, but that's it (and it's pretty minor and could easily be replaced with die rolling.)
 

Silverlion

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August 23, 2009, 11:07:48 AM
I'd suggest Deadlands Reloaded, mostly because I find Savage World's simpler than original Deadlands. I liked the mechanics in concept but found them a bit more difficult to juggle in play, and generally I like cards as potential randomizerzs in play.

Reloaded uses Savage Worlds which uses cards for initiative (and has a few edge based tricks based on that setup.) Otherwise though it uses dice for resolution. You need two books to play--Savage Worlds and Deadlands Reloaded, but you can get the Savage Worlds Explorer's Edition for under ten dollars, so its not terrible.
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Lawbag

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August 23, 2009, 12:13:51 PM
The poker element really only applies to Hucksters (Weird West), and the combat system uses drawn cards to control the order of combat lending to it a "poker" feel.

But dont think for one minute it dominates the game.
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August 23, 2009, 12:15:18 PM
Deadlands was ok, but these days I'd strongly recommend Aces & Eights.

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August 23, 2009, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;323070Deadlands was ok, but these days I'd strongly recommend Aces & Eights.

Someone mentions complexity as an issue and you try to sell them on Aces & Eights?

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Randy

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August 23, 2009, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: Seanchai;323101Someone mentions complexity as an issue and you try to sell them on Aces & Eights?

Seanchai

The deck of cards and poker chips work in Deadlands, quite well imho
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Lawbag

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August 23, 2009, 02:56:28 PM
The horror and western mix was almost perfect in Deadlands. They also had a great line in mythos too. What killed it was the serialised backstory/metaplot handed out each book release.
 
If you want a similar feel go for Call of Cthulhu, but set in the same era.
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August 23, 2009, 03:09:24 PM
Quote from: Lawbag;323152The horror and western mix was almost perfect in Deadlands. They also had a great line in mythos too. What killed it was the serialised backstory/metaplot handed out each book release.
 
If you want a similar feel go for Call of Cthulhu, but set in the same era.

And when the meta-plot ended, it ended... badly
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Lawbag

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August 23, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
I was consistently disappointed with the supplement (splat book's) references to required books to be able to use the adventure or additional rules. It then proceeded to reveal some small tidbit of information, and the promise it will all be revealed in the next book. Which blatantly it wasnt.
 
Im sure some enterprising lawyer could raise a lawsuit against PEG for their mis-representation of the product.
 
For all said and done, I do adore the books, and the world, and even have a soft spot for the back story.
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August 23, 2009, 03:35:10 PM
Quote from: Randaconda;323156And when the meta-plot ended, it ended... badly

And there are still questions they refuse to answer unless they get to make a movie...

/sigh

Randy

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August 23, 2009, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: Lawbag;323162I was consistently disappointed with the supplement (splat book's) references to required books to be able to use the adventure or additional rules. It then proceeded to reveal some small tidbit of information, and the promise it will all be revealed in the next book. Which blatantly it wasnt.
 
Im sure some enterprising lawyer could raise a lawsuit against PEG for their mis-representation of the product.
 
For all said and done, I do adore the books, and the world, and even have a soft spot for the back story.

Yeah, that annoyed the fuck out of me too...


But I do looooooooove the setting. I've always been in love with big gonzo settings(Hell, I still have all my Rifts books).
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Randy

#12
August 23, 2009, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: jadrax;323166And there are still questions they refuse to answer unless they get to make a movie...

/sigh
What kind of questions?
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jadrax

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August 23, 2009, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: Randaconda;323190What kind of questions?
Who the fuck is the Cackler, apart from him being the first harrowed.

Randy

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August 23, 2009, 05:13:46 PM
Quote from: jadrax;323193Who the fuck is the Cackler, apart from him being the first harrowed.

You're right :angry:
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