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D&D SJWs Attack Big-boobed Muppet, Backfires Horribly

Started by RPGPundit, February 04, 2021, 02:53:56 AM

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Brad

Quote from: jhkim on February 14, 2021, 12:15:16 PMBreasts are always sexualized to some degree, but standards of beauty do differ. Some features like symmetry and clear skin are always favored, but things like preferred breast size can differ between different cultures and historical period. An ideal woman in the Renaissance would likely be considered a fat chick today. A topless supermodel with large breasts would command a lot of attention in our culture, but might not get a second glance in some indigenous cultures.

None of this is true at all, but thanks for parroting the leftist bullshit!

EDIT: Like seriously, do you actually post anything that isn't a leftist talking point? All that Rubens nonsense has been proven to be demonstrably false, but it makes fat girls feel better about themselves so the lie persists. There is no culture on Earth that would ignore a topless supermodel, indigenous or not. They might not be as alarmed at the lack of clothing, but they'd certainly be interested in the overall physical attractiveness. I don't even know why I'm bothering to type out this edit because you're just gonna ignore how stupid you sound and post more rhetoric you heard in college or something.
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S'mon

Quote from: Brad on February 14, 2021, 12:32:45 PM
None of this is true at all, but thanks for parroting the leftist bullshit!

Well there is some cultural variation - and certainly in cultures where women routinely go topless, breasts are not a major sexual attractor - but there are also some consistencies, such as the 7-10 waist-hip ratio being considered the most attractive. Some cultures think 28-40 is best, some 35-50, some fashionistas may like 21-30... but none find a belly bigger than hips attractive.
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Samsquantch

Quote from: Omega on February 13, 2021, 09:17:51 AM
As related before. Back in the 90s iteration of this stupid I was at ground zero when the moral guardians stepped up their campaign from bitching and trying to "cancel" people to actively sabotaging a major art and indie comic con. They got every comic artist they disapproved of censored at their tables and disapproved art removed from the gallery. Cosplayers were restricted or in a few cases outright denied. They even had armed security in the gaming room watching us.

Next year they had completely taken over the con and "fixed" it. A year later it was gone. A con that had been around over a decade. As of a year or so ago the new iteration of this stupid was at it again.

That would be awful. Just awful. We have so few cons here in Pundit's old homeland that the ones we do have have to struggle to begin with. I couldn't imagine putting your heart and soul into supporting one year after year just to watch the sjw mob destroy it in two years.

Samsquantch

Quote from: sureshot on February 14, 2021, 10:54:01 AM
Quote from: Brad on February 14, 2021, 09:03:20 AM
It's the same thing as fat ugly chicks criticizing dudes for being attracted to "conventionally attractive" women, whatever the hell that even means. Sorry, get mad at God or something, that's just a biological reaction.

Basically be attracted to me as it's not my fault I'm too lazy and unwilling to do any exercise whatsoever to get men to pay attention to me. It's the same bullshit with trans women suddenly realizing most men are not interested in dating trans women and if your not interested in them then it's transphobia.

They seem to forget that phobia means fear. I'm not homophobic at all, as many of my guy friends and coworkers can attest, but that doesn't make me want to have sex with them simply because I'm not afraid of them. I'm also not afraid of trans people but in the crazy trans logic not wanting to have sex with them, against my will I might add, means I am afraid of them and therefore hate them.

It seems like they're saying it's ok to demand sex from unwilling partners and refusal means you're a bigot and need to be cancelled and have your life ruined... for refusing involuntary sex...

Abraxus

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 14, 2021, 04:23:53 PM
They seem to forget that phobia means fear. I'm not homophobic at all, as many of my guy friends and coworkers can attest, but that doesn't make me want to have sex with them simply because I'm not afraid of them. I'm also not afraid of trans people but in the crazy trans logic not wanting to have sex with them, against my will I might add, means I am afraid of them and therefore hate them.

Agreed and seconded.

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 14, 2021, 04:23:53 PM
It seems like they're saying it's ok to demand sex from unwilling partners and refusal means you're a bigot and need to be cancelled and have your life ruined... for refusing involuntary sex...

They are pure hypocrites because they are not allowed to be unwilling victims yet their partners can. Double standard and all.

Omega

Quote from: Samsquantch on February 14, 2021, 04:15:00 PMThat would be awful. Just awful. We have so few cons here in Pundit's old homeland that the ones we do have have to struggle to begin with. I couldn't imagine putting your heart and soul into supporting one year after year just to watch the sjw mob destroy it in two years.

The 90s saw the resurgence of this stupid as "political correctness" and a new brigade of moral guardians pushing for ever more stringent censoring.

I saw it at other cons both gaming and omni-cons I used to attend like MiniCon way back. Just not successfully like that. I'd like to think it was a lone example in the wider array of cons back then. Whereass pre 2020 we were seeing cons getting ever more censored in much the same manner as way back.

Brad

Quote from: S'mon on February 14, 2021, 02:25:07 PM
Well there is some cultural variation - and certainly in cultures where women routinely go topless, breasts are not a major sexual attractor - but there are also some consistencies, such as the 7-10 waist-hip ratio being considered the most attractive. Some cultures think 28-40 is best, some 35-50, some fashionistas may like 21-30... but none find a belly bigger than hips attractive.

"Cultural variation" is like saying some hoodrats are okay with tattoos and the intelligentsia don't care for them. That all goes out the window when a naked Halle Berry with a tramp stamp is beckoning you to "hang out". Oh you don't like tats, sure, does it really matter in this case?

EDIT: Just to placate Pundit, in gaming terms someone with an 18 CHA (COM if we're using that stat) is beyond reproach. Even with a hefty negative reaction penalty, they're still going to illicit a very positive reaction.
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Cloyer Bulse

Quote from: "S'mon"....and certainly in cultures where women routinely go topless, breasts are not a major sexual attractor....

That is like saying that legs are not a major attractor in this culture because women are habitually naked from the upper thighs down. Quite the contrary, females in this culture use their legs for sexual display, which is an instinctive impulse shared with other primates.

Breasts evolved in human females most likely to be attractive to males, because in most primitive societies females have to compete with each other for husbands beginning at puberty. Humans and bonobos are the only animals I can think of that develop breasts at puberty instead of when they are pregnant. Large breasts in young females is indicative of fertility. Males are designed by evolution to be able to discern female health and fertility.

Quote from: "Samsquantch"They seem to forget that phobia means fear....

"phobia" also means to be repulsed by something, such as hydrophobicity in chemistry.

jhkim

Quote from: Brad on February 14, 2021, 10:42:04 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 14, 2021, 02:25:07 PM
Well there is some cultural variation - and certainly in cultures where women routinely go topless, breasts are not a major sexual attractor - but there are also some consistencies, such as the 7-10 waist-hip ratio being considered the most attractive. Some cultures think 28-40 is best, some 35-50, some fashionistas may like 21-30... but none find a belly bigger than hips attractive.
"Cultural variation" is like saying some hoodrats are okay with tattoos and the intelligentsia don't care for them. That all goes out the window when a naked Halle Berry with a tramp stamp is beckoning you to "hang out". Oh you don't like tats, sure, does it really matter in this case?

EDIT: Just to placate Pundit, in gaming terms someone with an 18 CHA (COM if we're using that stat) is beyond reproach. Even with a hefty negative reaction penalty, they're still going to illicit a very positive reaction.

S'mon - I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me at all. I agree that there is some cultural variation along with some consistencies. I mentioned clear skin and symmetry of features for this - you cited waist-to-hip ratio. I hadn't read previously about waist-to-hip ratio, but yes, it looks like between 0.6 and 0.8 is preferred from what I read. (ref) As far as I know, it is similar with breasts. I suspect no culture prefers complete absence of breasts -- but there are varying ideas on what is too small and what is too big. Even within our own culture, there is a lot of variation in breast size of the most popular models and celebrities. From back in the days of flappers in the 1920s through to the present, many small-chested women have been seen as highly attractive.

Regarding a Comeliness stat -- I think there is far more agreement about who has a 9 or lower Comeliness cross-culturally, but little agreement about who is an 18. Asymmetry, blotchy skin, and apparently wrong waist-to-hip ratio are always turn-offs. But who has an 18 versus a 14 is the subject of much more disagreement especially between varying cultures. And reaction to nudity is very culturally dependent. In some cultures, seeing a woman topless or even fully nude is no big deal, since it happens all the time. In some cultures, women are almost always completely covered from head to toe, and showing any skin is erotic.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Cloyer Bulse on February 15, 2021, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: "Samsquantch"They seem to forget that phobia means fear....

"phobia" also means to be repulsed by something, such as hydrophobicity in chemistry.

Social justice re-defines terms for their own useage. They don't mean fear or repulsion. They mean some social hegemony nonsense.

Relevance: SJW terminology making it's way into RPG texts.
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Mishihari

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 15, 2021, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: Cloyer Bulse on February 15, 2021, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: "Samsquantch"They seem to forget that phobia means fear....

"phobia" also means to be repulsed by something, such as hydrophobicity in chemistry.

Social justice re-defines terms for their own useage. They don't mean fear or repulsion. They mean some social hegemony nonsense.

Relevance: SJW terminology making it's way into RPG texts.

It's almost like they read "1984" and decided it was utopian rather than dystopian.

Jaeger

Quote from: Mishihari on February 15, 2021, 10:47:47 PM
It's almost like they read "1984" and decided it was utopian rather than dystopian.

Yes, they read it as a how-to manual, not dystopian fiction.
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Samsquantch

Quote from: Ratman_tf on February 15, 2021, 03:18:04 PM
Quote from: Cloyer Bulse on February 15, 2021, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: "Samsquantch"They seem to forget that phobia means fear....

"phobia" also means to be repulsed by something, such as hydrophobicity in chemistry.

Social justice re-defines terms for their own useage. They don't mean fear or repulsion. They mean some social hegemony nonsense.

Relevance: SJW terminology making it's way into RPG texts.

I agree, that does seem to be the context in which they use it.

Slipshot762

When a neckbeard who normally sexes socks to the extent that a pile of crusty socks growing mushrooms resides in the corner of his room like a splooge golem waiting on the final casting to animate, a muppet with bewbs, which is to say essentially a felt sock with bewbs, is probably maddeningly lewd to the point where they type outrage with one hand while adding to the golem with the other.

Samsquantch

Quote from: Slipshot762 on February 16, 2021, 05:55:57 AM
When a neckbeard who normally sexes socks to the extent that a pile of crusty socks growing mushrooms resides in the corner of his room like a splooge golem waiting on the final casting to animate, a muppet with bewbs, which is to say essentially a felt sock with bewbs, is probably maddeningly lewd to the point where they type outrage with one hand while adding to the golem with the other.

That is both disgusting and hilarious.